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Episode 27 | The "Making" Money Myth

Release Date: 02/27/2025

Hey White Women

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Hey White Women

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Hey White Women

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Hey White Women

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Hey White Women

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Episode 27 | The "Making" Money Myth

Hey White Women

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Hey White Women

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Hey White Women

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Episode 24 | Grindset is Gross

Hey White Women

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Episode 23 | Hillmantok University

Hey White Women

This conversation delves into the complexities of therapy, race, and community dynamics, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals navigating these spaces. The speakers discuss the challenges of finding appropriate therapeutic support, the importance of community in healing, and the role of white women in social movements. They also explore military dynamics, the impact of social media on awareness, and the necessity of acknowledging trauma while navigating conversations about race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, gender,...

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In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersection of music, cult experiences, and cultural identity. They discuss how growing up in a cult influenced their music preferences, particularly the emotional suppression associated with it. The conversation delves into the complexities of cultural appropriation in the music industry, the impact of fame, and the challenges of navigating cultural identities. They reflect on their personal journeys of understanding music and the importance of community and cultural exchange in shaping their experiences. In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the dynamics of listening, attention, and the challenges faced in graduate school settings. They discuss the cultural implications of entitlement and the concept of cancel culture, emphasizing the importance of understanding consequences. The dialogue shifts to the value of community and diverse experiences, critiquing the traditional notions of authority and work. They advocate for a gig economy that fosters connection and collaboration, while also addressing the isolation prevalent in modern society. The conversation culminates in a critique of the myth of making money and the need for a relational revolution to combat loneliness and foster community.

Connect with Rebecca at:

The White Woman Whisperer Website

The White Woman Whisperer Patreon

The White Woman Whisperer TikTok

Connect with Daniella at:

You can read all about that story in my book, Uncultured-- buy signed copies here. https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured

For more info on me:

Patreon: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding

Cult book Clubs (Advanced AND Memoirs) Annual Membership: https://bit.ly/YTPLanding

Get an autographed copy of my book, Uncultured: https://bit.ly/SignedUncultured

Get my book, Uncultured, from Bookshop.org: https://bit.ly/4g1Ufw8

Daniella’s Tiktok: https://bit.ly/3V6GK6k / KnittingCultLady

Instagram: https://bit.ly/4ePAOFK / daniellamyoung_

Unamerican video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/YTVideoBook

Secret Practice video book (on Patreon): https://bit.ly/3ZswGY8

Takeaways

Daniella shares her journey of discovering music after leaving a cult.
The emotional suppression in cults affects music preferences and emotional expression.
Country music was a safe choice for Daniella as she navigated her new environment.
Cultural appropriation in music is a complex issue that involves race and identity.
Fame in the music industry can lead to a false sense of success and healing.
The conversation highlights the importance of community in cultural exchange.
Daniella reflects on the anti-identity experienced in cults and its impact on her life.
The role of race in music preferences and cultural narratives is explored.
Daniella's realization of the need to understand music beyond her initial experiences.
The discussion emphasizes the importance of being open to learning about different
cultures. Listening requires more than just attention; it demands engagement.
In graduate school, many feel compelled to speak up rather than listen.
Entitlement in American culture often leads to a lack of accountability.
Cancel culture is a response to the introduction of consequences.
The burden of proof often falls unfairly on marginalized voices.
Community and shared experiences enhance understanding and connection.
Experience should be valued over mere years in a position.
The gig economy offers opportunities for community-based living.
Isolation is a significant issue in modern society, exacerbated by capitalism.
The myth of making money perpetuates a cycle of exploitation.

Chapters

00:00 The Journey from Cult to Mainstream Music
03:50 Emotional Suppression and Music's Role
06:49 Cultural Identity and Music Choices
09:48 The Impact of Fame and Success
12:45 Cultural Appropriation in the Music Industry
15:41 Navigating Identity and Acceptance
18:40 The Pressure of Success and Perfectionism
21:44 Community, Inclusion, and Cultural Understanding
27:02 Growing Up in a Cult: Isolation and Discovery
29:25 Navigating Cultural Identity and Music
30:35 Understanding Cultural Appropriation and Joy
32:37 Satanic Panic and Cultural Misunderstandings
34:25 Deconstructing Cult Teachings and Racial Bias
35:47 The Impact of Anti-Identity on Self-Perception
40:03 Consequences of Actions and Cancel Culture
41:54 The Illusion of American Exceptionalism
44:17 Listening and Engaging in Community Conversations
46:49 The Burden of Proof in Conversations
52:09 Navigating Criticism and Defending Identity
59:37 Weaponizing Experience and Identity
01:01:47 Debating Authority and Experience
01:03:51 The Value of Diverse Experiences
01:06:18 Cults, Community, and Isolation
01:10:29 Rethinking Work and Community
01:13:29 Corporate Culture and Community
01:17:16 The Myth of Job Security
01:20:52 The Importance of Community
01:25:25 Empowerment Through Creation

Produced by Haley Phillips

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