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Ep. 232: Turning Kids’ Passions and Enthusiasms into Superpowers with Barry Prizant, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (Re-Air)

Release Date: 04/08/2025

Ep. 232: Turning Kids’ Passions and Enthusiasms into Superpowers with Barry Prizant, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (Re-Air)

Diverse Thinking Different Learning

We are doing a reairing this week of of Diverse Thinking Different Learning in which we talked with . This episode is being revisited at a perfect time because this is Autism Awareness and Acceptance Month. In this episode, Dr. Prizant helps us understand why it’s important to stop labeling certain behaviors in children as intentional defiance or difficulty. Dr. Barry Prizant is a speech-language pathologist with nearly five decades of experience working with individuals with autism and their families. He serves as a Visiting Scholar at Brown University and directs Childhood Communication...

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We are so happy to be welcoming back to the podcast this episode. Dr. Waller is a seasoned reading specialist and educational therapist with more than four decades of experience helping children with learning differences, especially ones who teachers have sadly given up on. She is the author of , a finalist for the Foreword Reviews Best Book of the Year in 2022, and has received multiple accolades for her contributions to education. Holding advanced degrees in reading and learning differences, she has shared her expertise nationwide and internationally via speaking engagements and on...

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Ep. 229: Boosting a Child’s Autonomy with Self-Care Routines with Kristin Lombardi, MA, BCBA & Christine Drew, PhD, BCBA-D

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Ep. 228: Understanding Functional Neurological Disorder (FND) with Dr. Samantha Levy

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Ep. 224: Should I Medicate My Child? – Part 2 with Lance Steinberg, M.D.

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We are doing a reairing this week of episode 80 of Diverse Thinking Different Learning in which we talked with Dr. Barry Prizant. This episode is being revisited at a perfect time because this is Autism Awareness and Acceptance Month. In this episode, Dr. Prizant helps us understand why it’s important to stop labeling certain behaviors in children as intentional defiance or difficulty.

Dr. Barry Prizant is a speech-language pathologist with nearly five decades of experience working with individuals with autism and their families. He serves as a Visiting Scholar at Brown University and directs Childhood Communication Services, and he is widely published, including The SCERTS Model as well as multiple books and over 130 scholarly works. Dr. Prizant has delivered more than 900 presentations worldwide, including twice at the United Nations, and he has received many awards for his contributions to the field.

The truth (as Dr. Prizant discusses) is that challenging behaviors are not always just the child being deliberately defiant for the sake of it. It is sometimes the child’s way of dealing with anxiety and/or emotional overwhelm, and Dr. Prizant discusses this alongside insights from his book Uniquely Human: A Different Way of Seeing Autism. Encouraging us to reconsider how we interpret challenging behaviors, he suggests that we not try to eliminate these actions but rather try to better understand the reason(s) behind them.

Dr. Prizant stresses the fact that real progress comes not from suppressing behaviors but from nurturing a child’s strengths, enhancing their abilities, and providing a supportive environment. After all, in doing so, children can begin to display more positive behaviors and enjoy a greater sense of well-being.

Throughout the conversation, we also explore why it's important to take a closer look at children’s interests and passions which are far too often misunderstood or undervalued and how we can use those passions as gateways to growth and learning, so whether you are a parent, teacher, or caregiver, this episode offers valuable insights into how to connect with and support children in more empowering ways.

Show Notes:

[0:05] - Karen announces a new podcast schedule and reintroduces Dr. Prizant’s episode on kids' passions.
[4:35] - Dr. Prizant highlights his book’s update and its alignment with evolving autism advocacy.
[6:09] - Decades of developmental training helped shape Dr. Prizant’s strength-based, human-centered view of autism.
[8:14] - Understanding autistic behavior requires empathy and rejecting interpretations such as “noncompliance.”
[10:05] - Dr. Prizant urges professionals to self-reflect and further explore the reasons behind challenging behaviors.
[12:31] - Dr. Prizant argues that children cannot learn or connect effectively when overwhelmed emotionally.
[15:50] - Echolalia and personal interests can be strengths that lead to communication, connection, and self-esteem.
[19:06] - Passion-based learning can evolve into broader knowledge when adults nurture and expand children's interests.
[22:47] - Dr. Prizant points out how dismissing a child's passion shuts down connection.
[24:13] - Children's deep interests can enrich families and communities, even guiding future career aspirations and expertise.
[26:21] - Nurturing a child’s interests can lead to connection, skill development, and social engagement.
[29:37] - Some fascinations in childhood fade, but others evolve into lifelong passions or hobbies.
[31:47] - Highlighting a child’s strengths can reshape peer perception and lead to more inclusion.
[34:42] - Karen praises Uniquely Human for transforming fear and uncertainty into understanding and hope.
[35:19] - Dr. Prizant now narrates his audiobook and co-hosts a podcast with an audio engineer who has autism.

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