Diverse Thinking Different Learning

Diverse Thinking · Different Learning is hosted by pediatric neuropsychologist and mom of two, Dr. Karen Wilson. Each week, Dr. Wilson shares expert insights, science-based strategies, and conversations with leading specialists to help parents and educators better understand ADHD, dyslexia, autism, executive functioning challenges, learning differences, and youth mental health. Through engaging interviews and practical guidance, the podcast translates research into real-world tools that empower adults to support neurodivergent children, struggling learners, and students with learning and thinking differences. Trusted by families and professionals alike, Diverse Thinking · Different Learning is a go-to resource for reliable information and actionable strategies to help children learn, grow, and thrive. Explore episodes and resources at https://diversethinkingpodcast.com/

Ep. 256: How to Help Neurodivergent Teens and Young Adults Navigate Dating with Dr. Elina Veytsman 03/17/2026

Ep. 256: How to Help Neurodivergent Teens and Young Adults Navigate Dating with Dr. Elina Veytsman We are so happy to have Dr. Elina Veytsman join us for this episode of the show! Dr. Elina Veytsman is a licensed psychologist and the Director of Training at the UCLA PEERS® Clinic, where she leads groups for neurodivergent youth and their caregivers while also training interns, postdocs, and professionals. She earned her Psychology degrees at UCLA and UC Riverside, researching developmental disabilities and transition experiences for youth and parents, and completed her doctoral internship providing therapy, parent training, and diagnostic assessment services. Since joining the UCLA PEERS® Clinic in 2014, she has delivered the PEERS® program in multiple settings and also provides individualized PEERS services through a private practice in Los Angeles. Dr. Elina Veytsman joins us to discuss how we help neurodivergent teens and young adults explore dating in ways that are both safe and authentic to who they are. We unpack the importance of supporting relationship development for neurodivergent youth without removing their agency or individuality, and we start off by unpacking a common misconception - that autistic or neurodivergent youth are not interested in romantic relationships. In reality, many deeply want connection but may not have been given clear, explicit guidance about the social patterns that others often learn more informally. Our conversation in this episode explores how dating skills are teachable rather than innate, and Dr. Veytsman explains that social skills such as reciprocal conversation, recognizing romantic interest, understanding boundaries, and processing rejection can be broken into concrete, observable steps. Much of the work that she discusses is grounded in research and sociological observation, with more than 75 scientific papers supporting PEERS® programming. This episode of the podcast also touches upon how social cognition, perspective-taking, and communication differences can affect dating experiences. Safety and vulnerability are also major themes that we talk about, and we discuss risks such as online exploitation, misreading friendliness as romantic interest, and the challenge of recognizing subtle social cues. Dr. Veytsman highlights that vulnerability often comes from inexperience rather than neurodivergence itself and that education about red flags, consent, and online behavior can be very protective! Our discussion also highlights the strengths-based philosophy behind PEERS®. Rather than changing identity or forcing conformity, the program focuses on expanding communication tools, building confidence, and supporting young people as they pursue relationships that feel meaningful to them. If you are a parent, clinician, or someone interested in how neurodivergent youth can approach dating with confidence and safety, then this episode is not one that you will want to miss! Show Notes: [2:44] - Dr. Veytsman explains how romantic skills often begin in adolescence, starting with friendship and learning conversation, boundaries, and recognizing shared interests. [5:24] - Dating challenges could include one-sided conversations, so the program first teaches reciprocal communication before introducing relationship-specific skills. [7:10] - Dr. Veytsman discusses how limited peer learning and social cue misunderstanding can increase vulnerability to online exploitation. [10:23] - Hear how perspective-taking and social cognition can be strengthened like a muscle with structured practice of social thinking and empathy skills. [12:20] - Early training in communication, risk awareness, and perception helps build meaningful relationships by improving social understanding and behavior awareness. [13:42] - Vulnerability often arises from limited experience; explicit education helps youth recognize manipulation, red flags, and online safety risks. [16:41] - The PEERS® program is a strengths-based, neurodiversity-respecting, and skill-building dating / social development program for neurodivergent youth! [17:11] - Preparation, coaching, and education help autistic youth build healthy relationships via learning consent, rejection, safety, and partner recognition. [19:21] - We learn that approximately 70% of participants involve parents learning to coach social skills while respecting individuals' goals. [22:52] - Hear how the program truly promotes neurodiversity, teaches social tools for connection, and encourages personal choice rather than masking. [25:16] - Dating education covers rejection, boundaries, consent, and flirting as observable, research-grounded behaviors. [27:59] - We further learn how flirting and interest are taught via low-risk signals such as eye contact, smiles, and reciprocal conversation exchanges. [30:44] - Hear why online profiles should present clear, positive, authentic information and use profile-specific messages to initiate meaningful contact. [33:13] - Caregivers can help reinforce skills with praise-based feedback, homework practice, and shared interest activities. [36:57] - Evidence shows that PEERS® improves dating behavior, confidence, social participation, and relationship skill use across research studies! [40:08] - How can Dr. Veytsman be contacted? Links and Related Resources: Connect with Dr. Elina Veytsman: Email: eveytsman@pediatricneuropsych.com Join Our Community: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/40288865

Ep. 255: How to Talk to Siblings About Neurodiversity with Liz Angoff, Ph.D. 03/03/2026

Ep. 255: How to Talk to Siblings About Neurodiversity with Liz Angoff, Ph.D. Join us for this episode of Diverse Thinking, Different Learning as we welcome Liz Angoff Ph.D. to the podcast. Dr. Angoff is a Licensed Educational Psychologist and Diplomate in School Neuropsychology who offers assessment and consultation services for children and families in the Bay Area, California. She wrote the Brain Building Books series and Our Brains, which help neurodivergent children better understand, appreciate, and advocate for their unique minds. Learn more about Dr. Liz and her work at her . Throughout our conversation, we talk about how when one child in a family is identified as neurodivergent, the focus understandably shifts to evaluations, therapies, and advocacy, but what about the sibling who is watching it all unfold, quietly forming their own explanations about meltdowns, extra appointments, and uneven attention? We discuss why children are natural “meaning makers” and what can happen when adults leave gaps in the story. Dr. Angoff explains her approach to sharing diagnoses - starting with asking the neurodivergent child for permission before telling a sibling. Dr. Angoff also walks us through how to translate assessment results into language that kids can actually use, including her “highways and construction projects” metaphor for strengths and challenges. Hear how this shared framework reduces blame, increases empathy, and helps siblings see both themselves and each other more clearly. We also address the real questions siblings ask: Why does my brother get more attention than I do? Is this my fault? Does that mean I have it too? Dr. Angoff offers some practical scripts for validating those feelings while reinforcing a powerful message: attention may shift, but love is absolutely not divided. The conversation also covers privacy and how to treat a diagnosis as the child’s story to share, as well as how to equip siblings with the language to explain differences to friends without making them responsible for managing everything. Perhaps most importantly, this episode of the show really reframes these talks as an ongoing process rather than a one-time thing. As children grow, their questions change, and so should the conversation. If you’re raising neurodivergent kids and want every child in your family to feel informed, valued, and included, this discussion with Dr. Liz Angoff will surely give you the language, perspective, and practical tools to start! Show Notes: [2:40] - Dr. Angoff talks about how inviting kids into diagnostic conversations naturally raises questions about siblings. [3:00] - Without clear explanations, siblings often invent their own stories regarding what’s happening. [3:43] - Early conversations can help reshape harmful narratives and prevent siblings from forming inaccurate roles. [6:00] - Dr. Angoff reflects on how families work best when kids own their story and guide what others learn. [9:36] - Dr. Angoff asserts that concrete, age-appropriate examples can help siblings grasp complicated diagnoses. [10:54] - Dr. Angoff discusses how using shared brain metaphors leads to empathy and mutual understanding between siblings. [13:08] - Highlighting strengths and “construction projects” can help siblings respond with empathy. [16:04] - Dr. Angoff explains how shared brain language reduces blame while ensuring that every child’s needs matter. [19:04] - Dr. Angoff explains how openness and reassurance can help siblings feel valued despite unequal attention. [22:03] - Even when attention shifts, love remains constant and intentional! [23:23] - Dr. Angoff asserts that honest conversations can help prevent siblings from believing that they matter less. [25:30] - Families protect diagnostic privacy while equipping siblings to respond confidently! [28:54] - Descriptive explanations of behaviors can help siblings understand and support each other! [29:19] - Dr. Angoff believes that siblings should share responsibility for advocacy while also seeking adult help when overwhelmed. [30:58] - Conversations around diagnosis should happen gradually, focusing on practical and present needs. [33:04] - Hear how stories, visuals, and resources can help families explain neurodiversity in accessible ways. [34:00] - Dr. Angoff believes that empowering language around neurodivergence helps support positive family narratives and understanding. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Dr. Angoff: Join Our Community: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/40288735

Ep. 254: Why Handwriting Is So Hard for Neurodivergent Kids (and Why Practice Isn’t the Answer) with Leslie Catlett 02/17/2026

Ep. 254: Why Handwriting Is So Hard for Neurodivergent Kids (and Why Practice Isn’t the Answer) with Leslie Catlett Please join us in welcoming Leslie Catlett, MS, OTR/L to the podcast! Leslie is the founder of , where she helps children develop confident, functional handwriting skills that support real learning. As a pediatric occupational therapist and mom of two, she approaches handwriting challenges by looking beyond neatness to understand the deeper factors affecting each child. Leslie specializes in working with children with ADHD, dysgraphia, dyslexia, and autism, creating individualized, engaging strategies that make writing more accessible and meaningful. She holds a Master’s degree in Occupational Therapy from the University of Wisconsin–Madison and is deeply committed to inclusive, strengths-based learning environments. In our conversation, we discuss the complexity of handwriting and why it’s so often misunderstood, with Leslie explaining that handwriting isn’t just a fine motor task but a full-body, brain-heavy activity that involves posture, attention, memory, sensory processing, and emotional regulation all at the same time. For neurodivergent learners, including children with ADHD, dysgraphia, dyslexia, or autism, handwriting can be truly exhausting, frustrating, and even overwhelming, and it’s rarely a matter of laziness or lack of effort. We discuss the misconceptions that slow progress signals a lack of motivation or that kids will simply “grow out of it,” and why traditional practice alone often makes matters even worse. Leslie highlights how occupational therapy addresses handwriting differently by building foundational skills first, from posture and core strength to visual motor coordination and sensory regulation, before layering on handwriting itself. Progress isn’t just about neater writing; it shows up first as reduced frustration, more confidence, and increased endurance. In our conversation, we also talk about practical ways parents and educators can support handwriting and fine motor development at home, with Leslie highlighting the importance of short, successful practice sessions, movement breaks, and incorporating skills into play via crafts, cooking, outdoor activities, or even Lego building. Leslie also discusses when it’s time to seek professional help, pointing out that handwriting struggles often impact self-esteem, school performance, and emotional regulation. We explore the purpose behind the Penmanship Lab itself, with Leslie having created it to provide one-on-one support for children who aren’t getting enough guidance in school and to help parents feel empowered rather than guilty when their child struggles. She shares how addressing handwriting early can support not only academic success but also everyday independence, from buttoning shirts to tying shoes. Our conversation offers a practical guide for anyone wanting to understand, support, and celebrate children’s unique learning needs! Show Notes: [2:30] - Handwriting is complex - requiring motor, sensory, attention, memory, and endurance skills simultaneously. [5:19] - Hear how dysgraphia stems from neurological differences, so practice alone doesn’t improve handwriting without foundational support. [8:42] - Leslie discusses how handwriting engages the brain differently than typing, often improving confidence and emotional regulation first. [10:56] - Leslie explains how short, playful activities and motor work strengthen handwriting skills and maintain student engagement. [13:19] - Hear how early intervention can help prevent frustration. [16:16] - Short, daily handwriting practice improves skills, confidence, and behavior without causing parental blame. [18:32] - Leslie reveals how fills gaps schools leave, providing one-on-one handwriting support for literacy development. [20:10] - Daily self-care tasks rely on fine motor skills, linking handwriting to broader functional independence. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Leslie: Email: thepenmanshiplab@gmail.com /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/39719695

Ep. 253: When Motivation Disappears: How to Help Tweens and Teens Reconnect with Dr. Ellen Braaten 02/03/2026

Ep. 253: When Motivation Disappears: How to Help Tweens and Teens Reconnect with Dr. Ellen Braaten I am so happy to welcome back for her third time on the show! In case you missed those episodes and/or need a refresher, Dr. Ellen Braaten is the founding director of the Learning and Emotional Assessment Program at Massachusetts General Hospital and an associate professor at Harvard Medical School. She is a prolific researcher and author whose work focuses on ADHD, learning disorders, child psychopathology, processing speed, intelligence, and children’s motivation, including bestselling books for parents and professionals. Deeply committed to public education, she frequently speaks on child mental health topics and contributes to both local and national media. In our conversation, we talk about why unmotivated kids rarely fit neatly into a single category, with Dr. Braaten explaining that children may struggle with motivation for a variety of reasons, such as cognitive overload, emotional fatigue, repeated failure, or even a lack of clear identity. She also explains why framing these challenges as brain-based skills, rather than personal failings, can help change the way parents and clinicians respond. We also discuss the narrowing of opportunities in schools today, why kids need space to discover their own strengths beyond academics and athletics, and how uncomfortable emotions such as shame, anxiety, or regret can silently block motivation. Dr. Braaten's is designed not just for children but for the adults supporting them, and she shares how parents, teachers, and therapists can use its activities to spark meaningful conversations, assess where a child gets stuck, and offer guidance without shame. It’s about collaboration, not enforcement, and about helping kids take ownership of their growth while navigating setbacks safely. This episode of the show will surely resonate with anyone supporting tweens and teens, whether you’re a parent, educator, or clinician, and offers strategies to help young people (and even adults) rediscover what matters to them, reclaim their motivation, and move forward with confidence! Show Notes: [2:09] - Hear how realized poor motivation affects everyone, especially during stressful, sleep-deprived times. [5:40] - Motivation consists of initiation, persistence, and desire, and can be treated as a learnable skill. [7:56] - Dr. Braaten discusses how kids today struggle to find identity due to overwhelming choices and early specialization pressures. [9:52] - Dr. Braaten argues that strengths extend beyond academics and sports, yet schools rarely provide opportunities to explore diverse talents. [11:51] - Hear how setbacks, injuries, or missed guidance can lead to regret. [13:44] - Breaking motivation into initiation, intensity, and persistence can help kids, parents, and clinicians clarify obstacles. [16:28] - Dr. Braaten points out how even small changes, like better sleep, improve motivation. [18:04] - Parents should balance support and independence, empowering children while preventing guilt or overwhelming hovering. [21:18] - Anxiety and post-pandemic habits have reduced face-to-face engagement, creating cycles that undermine motivation. [23:04] - Dr. Braaten's is best used with adults as guides, sparking conversations about identity and priorities. [26:05] - Hear how to contact Dr. Braaten. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Dr. Ellen Braaten: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/39719525

Ep. 252: How to Make the School System Work for Your Child with Stacey Shubitz 01/20/2026

Ep. 252: How to Make the School System Work for Your Child with Stacey Shubitz We are joined in this episode by , K-6 literacy consultant, a former elementary school teacher, and the co-founder of the blog and podcast. Her forthcoming book, empowers parents to navigate the special education system. In this episode, we talk openly about what it really takes to support a child with learning challenges in today’s school system. Drawing from decades of experience on both sides of the table, Stacey shares why she wrote Make the School System Work for Your Child with Disabilities and what she wishes someone had told her when she was first trying to make sense of evaluations, IEP meetings, and endless paperwork. Our conversation centers on some of the practical mindset shifts that can help change everything for families, with Stacey explaining why leading with a child’s strengths and not just their needs is so important for confidence and motivation. She also addresses disability language head-on, discussing why it is that naming disability isn’t limiting but instead opens doors to services, legal protections, and access that families often don’t realize they’re entitled to. Throughout the episode, we highlight how knowledge of data, timelines, rights, and documentation can shift the power dynamic and help parents advocate more effectively. We offer some concrete guidance on when to push for evaluations, why waiting too long can do a lot of harm, and how to ask for progress data without feeling confrontational. Stacey also shares what makes IEP meetings feel collaborative instead of adversarial, from simple preparation strategies to small human touches that ease tension. Communication comes up again and again: how approaching teachers with curiosity, clarity, and respect can lead to better outcomes for kids! Stacey also speaks candidly about burnout, emotional exhaustion, and why joy isn’t optional but protective. This conversation offers reassurance, realism, and a clear-eyed look at how parents can show up informed, empowered, and grounded while advocating for their children. Show Notes: [2:32] - Hear how ’s experiences with IEPs inspired her to help other parents. [4:04] - Stacey describes leading with strengths, not just challenges or disabilities. [6:03] - Highlighting positives alongside challenges helps children see themselves as capable. [9:42] - Stacey argues that children should know their rights and services so that they can advocate for themselves. [12:49] - It's so important for parents to monitor progress, request data, and push for evaluations when their child isn’t advancing. [14:58] - Stacey adds that it’s also essential to advocate firmly and request evaluations when interventions aren’t producing results. [16:20] - Preparing for meetings with clarity, human touches, and understanding who’s present can help make discussions more productive. [19:44] - Coming to meetings prepared with documents in advance helps balance power and supports advocacy. [23:04] - Stacey discusses how reviewing IEPs in advance can help ensure more effective teacher interactions. [25:00] - Approaching teachers with curiosity and gathering accurate information helps promote calm, productive conversations around school. [28:18] - Stacey gives an example of how being open about personal struggles allows teachers to provide better support for children. [30:33] - Stacey asserts that assuming positive intentions about teachers helps lead to collaboration and avoids unnecessary conflict. [32:07] - Stacey wishes that she had known sooner how important it is to read the procedural safeguards book to understand parental rights and timelines. [34:12] - Stacey expresses that she has learned that intentionally curating joy and connection can help prevent burnout. [37:05] - Joy is a legitimate form of intervention. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Stacey Shubitz: Email: stacey@staceyshubitz.com /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/39440090

Ep. 251: Sensory Processing & Regulation: How Play Rewires the Brain with Dr. Allie Ticktin, MA, OTD, OTR/L 01/06/2026

Ep. 251: Sensory Processing & Regulation: How Play Rewires the Brain with Dr. Allie Ticktin, MA, OTD, OTR/L We happily welcome Dr. Allie Ticktin to Diverse Thinking Different Learning! Dr. Ticktin is dedicated to helping children and their families thrive through sensory-based play, having founded Play 2 Progress and writing Play to Progress, introducing parents to all eight senses and offering practical ways to support them at home. Blending child development science with playful learning, Dr. Ticktin focuses on building kids’ confidence and supporting their growth across emotional, social, physical, and academic areas. At the core of her philosophy is the belief that empowering parents from the very beginning is the best way to set children up for lifelong success! Throughout our conversation, we explore the topic of sensory processing and sensory motor integration - often misunderstood but nevertheless foundational to how children learn, regulate, and thrive. Dr. Ticktin, an occupational therapist and author, explains that sensory processing involves more than just the five basic senses, that there are actually eight senses that children need to effectively process, including the "hidden" senses of vestibular, proprioceptive, and interoceptive! Dr. Ticktin highlights the fact that sensory issues are not simply behavioral problems but are rather neurological differences in how a child's brain processes sensory information. This can manifest in various ways, from being overly sensitive to certain textures to having trouble regulating emotions and attention. She stresses the importance of reframing these challenges as differences in sensory processing, rather than just automatically resorting to labeling them as "bad behavior." As we discuss, an especially important part of supporting children with sensory needs is teaching them to recognize and communicate their needs, and Allie discusses "body tools” - often referred to as fidget spinners or sensory toys - and how empowering children to identify and use whatever tools help them self-regulate can dramatically improve their ability to focus, learn, and interact socially. Our discussion also covers how sensory integration therapy can positively affect not just motor skills but also social-emotional functioning, with Dr. Ticktin reflecting on how she has seen children learn to self-regulate and even start advocating for their sensory needs and those of their peers. Our discussion provides you with a comprehensive overview of sensory processing, its importance in child development, and effective strategies for supporting children with sensory needs via a collaborative approach based on children’s strengths! Show Notes: [2:29] - Sensory processing involves eight senses, not just tactile experiences such as messy play. [5:10] - Dr. Ticktin argues that a child’s sensory system forms the unseen “roots” supporting all higher developmental skills. [7:05] - Some kids struggle to filter irrelevant sensory input, resulting in classrooms feeling overwhelming. [9:08] - Dr. Ticktin points out that many “bad behaviors” actually stem from unsatisfied sensory needs. [11:28] - Dr. Ticktin explains how “body tools” can help children self-regulate, reducing behavioral issues via sensory support. [13:30] - Sensory inputs can raise or lower excitement depending on how the child processes them. [17:38] - Misread behaviors in daily tasks might signal underlying sensory-motor challenges. [18:22] - Hear how sensory issues can appear as rough play, clumsiness, withdrawal, or shutdowns. [21:09] - Dr. Ticktin argues that self-regulation often crosses over with sensory needs. [24:49] - Young kids may tantrum from sensory overwhelm because they lack the language to explain their feelings. [25:12] - Dr. Ticktin explains how teaching kids to “empty their bucket” prevents overload, very similar to adults managing stress. [28:33] - Learn how play-based therapy strengthens sensory foundations with purposeful activities appearing as simple play. [31:54] - Excessive screen time limits ideation, rendering open-ended, unscheduled play especially important for development. [33:25] - Consistent family involvement is so important, since progress relies on using tools beyond therapy sessions. [36:14] - Dr. Ticktin encourages listeners to buy her . Links and Related Resources: Connect with Dr. Allie Ticktin: Phone: (323) 782-3331 /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/39123990

Ep. 250: Reimagining Learning: The Evolving Power of 1:1 Learning in 2025 with Jaime Porras 12/16/2025

Ep. 250: Reimagining Learning: The Evolving Power of 1:1 Learning in 2025 with Jaime Porras We are happy to welcome Jaime Porras for this episode! Jaime Porras is the District Vice President for , overseeing nine campuses across Los Angeles and Santa Barbara. With more than two decades in education (including fourteen years at Fusion), he has held roles from teacher to Head of School and is passionate about fostering student-centered, relationship-driven learning environments. He holds an MA in Education with a focus on Social Justice from Antioch University Los Angeles and a BA in English from Ohio State University. A proud Buckeye and Culver City resident, Jaime enjoys sports, travel, literature, and discovering the best tacos in L.A., where he lives with his wife and daughter. Jaime joins us for this episode to discuss how the 1:1 learning model at Fusion Academy has become increasingly important in recent years as students have faced growing challenges with anxiety and depression, and disengagement. He explains that the pandemic drastically worsened many students' struggles with executive functioning and social anxiety but how, in a 1:1 setting, Fusion is able to provide a safe, supportive space where students can rebuild their confidence and reconnect with learning. By removing the pressure and comparison of a traditional classroom, students feel safer to take risks, make mistakes, and grow. Jaime highlights the importance of building a strong mentor-student relationship in which the teacher can truly understand and cater to each individual's unique needs, interests, and learning style, a personalized approach that also helps address issues around executive functioning, as Fusion teachers break down assignments into manageable steps while also explicitly modeling positive behaviors and social-emotional skills. Jaime notes that the 1:1 environment allows students the space to process feelings of failure in a healthy way without judgment from their peers. At the same time, Fusion works to build a sense of community and belonging via shared social spaces and activities, although the focus remains on creating an environment customized for each student's needs. Jaime believes that this model will only become more important in the years ahead as schools grapple with the lasting impacts of the pandemic on student mental health and engagement. Our conversation highlights how the 1:1 approach at Fusion Academy empowers students to rebuild their confidence and reconnect with their strengths even in the face of significant challenges. As the education landscape continues to evolve, this model may serve as an important blueprint for supporting the diverse needs of today's learners! Show Notes: [2:27] - Jaime describes how post-pandemic isolation worsened student anxiety and depression while boosting demand for 1:1 learning. [5:59] - 1:1 environments reduce social pressure and allow teachers to address each student’s unique needs. [9:00] - Jaime stresses that individualized settings can lead to belonging, safety, and feelings of mattering. [12:08] - Learning begins with love and rapport, creating trust before taking on executive functioning challenges. [14:01] - Jaime explains how executive functioning develops with maturity, so celebrates incremental progress. [17:11] - Jaime notes how 1:1 settings allow students to process failure safely and quickly recover. [19:41] - Fusion removes traditional school obstacles, focusing on individualized support without judgment. [22:37] - 1:1 learning suits kids who need safety, personalization, and emotional comfort. [23:08] - Jaime highlights Fusion’s flexibility to adjust instantly for each student’s needs. [25:21] - Jaime compares Fusion’s structure to private lessons that separate focused learning from broader social experiences. [27:46] - Small-group environments let students more easily build real friendships and resolve conflicts. [29:48] - Jaime criticizes traditional schools for pressuring kids into activities that adults rarely pursue. [31:53] - Hear Jaime share a student’s gradual growth from isolation to leadership, proving that patience and personalization can lead to confidence. [35:19] - Jaime predicts that 1:1 education will shape all schooling by highlighting growth over conformity. [38:30] - Where can Jaime be reached? Links and Related Resources: Connect with Jaime Porras: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/39047140

Ep. 249: Using Technology to Support Neurodivergent Students with Joan Green 12/02/2025

Ep. 249: Using Technology to Support Neurodivergent Students with Joan Green For this edition of the show, we warmly welcome Joan Green! Joan Green, M.A., CCC-SLP, is a speech-language pathologist, assistive technology specialist, and founder of in the Washington, DC area. For nearly 40 years, she has helped people of all ages (especially neurodiverse learners) use technology to enhance communication, learning, and independence. Passionate about accessibility and innovation, Joan also educates families and professionals on how everyday tech and AI can change our daily lives. Our conversation explores how technology, including AI-powered tools, can be used to help support neurodivergent students in learning, communicating, and thriving, with Joan explaining that her passion for this work began in the 1980s when she saw how early computer software could dramatically improve outcomes for her adult patients with neurological conditions. She then expanded her focus to helping families and students, motivated in part by her own experiences as a parent. We highlight how many accessibility features and free tools built into common devices and platforms can provide incredibly crucial support for students who struggle with reading, writing, organization, or focus, with Joan stressing the importance of tailoring solutions, whether it's adjusting text-to-speech settings or finding the proper app or extension. She cautions against oversimplifying the process, as each student's needs are unique. Our discussion also touches upon the complex role of AI and advanced technology in education. Joan sees tremendous potential for AI to personalize learning and free up teachers to focus on higher-level instruction. She also voices some concerns about overreliance on it. Her approach is to position AI as a "thought partner" that can enhance and augment human learning rather than replace it. Throughout the conversation, Joan also shares some practical tips and resources, including her free 15-minute consultations and her ongoing program, which provides weekly training and collaborative problem-solving sessions. Our conversation in this episode truly highlights the power of technology to bridge gaps and amplify the voices of neurodivergent students - but only when used with intention and mindfulness! Show Notes: [2:31] - Hear how Joan began using early computer software with stroke patients and saw technology speed up recovery. [5:11] - Joan stresses the importance of beginning with free, built-in assistive tools such speech-to-text, read-aloud, and captions. [7:45] - Hear how Joan helps people choose the right reading and speech tools and offers free tech consultations. [11:17] - Joan believes that AI can aid in learning when used thoughtfully, but worries about shortcuts and privacy concerns. [13:32] - While Joan values AI as a creative learning tool, she also stresses the importance of actual understanding and critical thinking. [15:02] - AI can be a great way to personalize learning. [17:04] - Hear how Joan uses AI to personalize lessons around students’ interests while still thinking critically herself. [18:55] - Joan explains how she offers collaborative one-on-one tech sessions, which identify struggles. [20:47] - Joan runs the very affordable , providing weekly tutorials, recordings, and live tech brainstorming. [23:53] - Tech Possibility Academy teaches essential, easy-to-implement tools for parents, educators, and lifelong learners. [26:42] - Joan stresses technology's necessity for independence while also acknowledging its downsides. [29:39] - Where can Joan be reached? Links and Related Resources: Connect with Joan Green, M.A., CCC-SLP: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/39014035

Ep. 248: The Power of Early Intervention: How Neuroplasticity Shapes Young Brains with Dr. Viannae Nelkin 11/18/2025

Ep. 248: The Power of Early Intervention: How Neuroplasticity Shapes Young Brains with Dr. Viannae Nelkin Joining us for this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning is . Dr. Viannae Nelkin is a board-eligible pediatric neuropsychologist and founder of . She earned her master’s and doctorate in clinical psychology, training at top institutions including Children’s Hospital Los Angeles, Cedars-Sinai, Johns Hopkins All Children’s Hospital, and Children’s Hospital of Orange County. Her work focuses on early intervention, neurodiversity-affirming care, and empowering families to help their children thrive. Deeply committed to supporting children with neurological and genetic conditions, she will soon return to Cedars-Sinai Medical Center to continue her specialized work. This conversation explores understanding the brain’s remarkable ability to grow and adapt (its neuroplasticity) and how it can help shape how parents, educators, and clinicians support children with learning differences. Rather than viewing assessments as an endpoint, we discuss how each evaluation is a starting point or a roadmap revealing a child’s unique learning profile and potential for growth. Dr. Nelkin describes neuroplasticity as the brain’s superpower, an ongoing ability to form and strengthen neural pathways throughout life. She explains that learning differences are not signs of inability but are rather reflections of how differently each brain processes information. Through this lens, interventions aren’t “fixes” for broken systems but are instead workouts for the brain - strategic ways to build new connections and reinforce weaker ones. Throughout our conversation, we highlight why early intervention is so important. The first few years of life are a critical window for development when neural connections form rapidly and learning experiences leave lasting imprints. However, families are too often told to “wait and see,” delaying support until challenges have really taken a toll on a child’s confidence, motivation, and emotional well-being. Dr. Nelkin highlights that early intervention can change that trajectory and can help kiddos not only catch up academically but also develop resilience and self-assurance. Our discussion challenges the stigma surrounding assessment and diagnosis. We stress that an evaluation doesn’t define a child’s limits but rather brings their strengths and needs to light so that educators and parents can customize support. We also discuss the incredible importance of collaboration between neuropsychologists, teachers, and caregivers. As Dr. Nelkin reminds us, the most powerful word in a child’s journey is “yet” - they haven’t mastered it yet, but with the right support, their potential is truly limitless! Show Notes: [2:33] - highlights the importance of neuroplasticity to focus on children’s potential rather than labels. [4:00] - Dr. Nelkin offers a comprehensive definition of neuroplasticity. [6:13] - We learn why Dr. Nelkin regards interventions as extra workouts for the brain. [9:20] - How can neuroplasticity be nurtured? [11:12] - Dr. Nelkin regards neuroplasticity as the brain’s superpower. [14:14] - Dr. Nelkin argues for reframing stigma around assessments and collaborating between neuropsychologists, teachers, and parents. [17:42] - Early academic intervention helps diverse learners catch up and prevents later mental health struggles. [20:20] - Building strong early learning foundations can help prevent future academic difficulties. [21:57] - Dr. Nelkin explains how early educators can identify learning differences and apply strengths-based interventions to help kids. [24:12] - Dr. Nelkin loves helping very young children. [26:53] - Hear how specialists support children’s learning at different stages using evidence-based strategies. [29:33] - Dr. Nelkin reiterates the importance of early intervention. [33:51] - Dr. Nelkin explains how learning and emotional challenges affect development. [36:48] - Assessments help reveal why a child struggles and provide parents with hope and understanding. [37:30] - Dr. Nelkin highlights and explains the importance of the power of “yet.” Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Dr. Viannae Nelkin: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/38757510

Ep. 247: Helping Kids by Building Stronger Families: A Systems Approach to Support with Dr. Adi Soffer 11/04/2025

Ep. 247: Helping Kids by Building Stronger Families: A Systems Approach to Support with Dr. Adi Soffer We happily welcome to Diverse Thinking Different Learning this week! Adi Soffer, PsyD is a licensed psychologist who works with children, teens, and families, and she combines family structure therapy with evidence-based practices to help families strengthen communication, establish healthy boundaries, and deepen emotional connections. Passionate about guiding parents and children through challenges such as anxiety, behavioral issues, and major life changes, Dr. Soffer offers care via her private practice, Kesher Psychological Services. She sees clients in Los Angeles and provides virtual sessions throughout California and Florida. When a child is struggling with learning, behavioral, or emotional challenges, the focus is often on finding the right therapy for the child. However, as Dr. Adi Soffer explains, this approach may be missing an important piece - the family system. She firmly believes that families function as interconnected systems, and when one member is struggling, the whole system feels the impact. By shifting the focus from fixing the child to strengthening the entire family system, families can reduce stress, improve relationships, and lead to better outcomes for kids and teens. Dr. Soffer outlines her approach to family systems therapy, bringing the entire family into the first session, not just “the identified patient.” Instead of discussing the child's problems, she asks questions about the family's dynamics, traditions, and what they would like to change. This allows her to observe the family's communication patterns, boundaries, and power dynamics. She also highlights the importance of understanding the family's structure and communication style, as these factors can deeply impact a child's emotional well-being and behavior. Dr. Soffer explains how poor communication, conflict avoidance, or unclear expectations can contribute to ongoing stress at home, which in turn affects the child. By working with the family, however, she helps them develop healthier communication and set clear expectations and boundaries. This, in turn, can reduce the child's anxiety and stress, as they no longer have to worry about the unpredictability of their home environment. We also explore how the family systems approach shifts when working with teenagers, who are often pushing for more independence, with Dr. Soffer discussing the importance of balancing the teen's need for autonomy with the family's need for involvement and how this can create an environment of empathy and connection within the family. Overall, we highlight the powerful impact that a family systems approach can have on supporting children and teens struggling with various challenges. By addressing the entire family system, therapists can create lasting change and help the whole family thrive. Show Notes: [3:03] - Hear how begins therapy by including the entire family system rather than isolating the child. [6:43] - Dr. Soffer observes family dynamics via structured activities, games, and collaborative drawing. [9:32] - Family therapy examines communication, boundaries, and where each member fits in the relational hierarchy. [12:21] - Dr. Soffer makes the case that clear routines and consistent boundaries reduce chaos and help children feel secure and less anxious. [14:29] - Parents often unintentionally reinforce anxiety by teaching children that the world is frightening. [16:27] - Therapy highlights how children’s struggles often reflect parental triggers and emotional challenges. [19:29] - Removing the “identified patient” label eases a child’s burden and reduces family pressure. [20:13] - Dr. Soffer argues that constant focus on negative behavior teaches children to internalize damaging beliefs about themselves. [22:02] - Teens need both autonomy and clear parental boundaries to be successfully independent. [25:28] - Families begin to align as a team when therapy highlights shared responsibility and individual identity. [27:39] - Dr. Soffer explains how emotional Jenga can help parents model vulnerability and normalize healthy emotional expression for children. [30:27] - Hear how a teen realized that his parents’ feelings mattered too after returning from a month away. [32:34] - Dr. Soffer argues that parents build resilience by balancing support with boundaries and not over-accommodating their kids. [35:09] - A parent’s real role is preparing children to face failure, rejection, and life’s challenges. [36:18] - It's important for children to face discomfort and uncertainty instead of being shielded by anxious parents. [39:18] - Dr. Soffer asserts that focusing on family strengths can transform household dynamics and improve the overall atmosphere. [40:38] - How can Dr. Soffer be reached? Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Adi Soffer, PsyD: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/38127560

Ep. 246: Accommodations, Modifications, or Remediation? How to Know What Your Child Really Needs with Amy Cushner 10/21/2025

Ep. 246: Accommodations, Modifications, or Remediation? How to Know What Your Child Really Needs with Amy Cushner For this episode of the show, we are joined by ! Amy has dedicated more than 30 years to the Shelton School and a lifetime to advocating for neurodivergent individuals, infusing passion, humor, and wisdom into every stage she graces. From classrooms in Dallas to conferences in China, she has become a sought-after voice championing inclusive, strengths-based approaches across both education and business.. In this episode, Amy breaks down the important differences between accommodations, modifications, and remediation in the education system, explaining how these terms are often used interchangeably but have distinct purposes that can significantly impact a child's learning journey. Amy discusses the historical context, which traces back to Thomas Jefferson's vision for public education and the challenges of the "Goldilocks effect," ensuring the right fit for every student. She highlights why it's so important to understand the “magic number” that determines when remediation is provided, highlighting that the need for support does not disappear just because a student falls short of the threshold. Amy stresses the importance of understanding important distinctions as they have major implications for a student's educational journey, particularly when it comes to college and career choices, and she also emphasizes the crucial role of early intervention and the empowerment of students to self-advocate, using visual cues and clear communication about their accommodations. Throughout our conversation, Amy shares some valuable insights and practical advice for parents and educators, highlighting the need for a collaborative approach and the recognition that every child's learning journey is unique. Show Notes: [3:21] - traces public education’s evolution from Jefferson to modern challenges in individualized learning. [6:54] - Students often get accommodations when remediation or intervention is truly required. [7:12] - Amy criticizes rigid “magic number” cutoffs for remediation, calling them unfair and financially motivated. [9:13] - Accommodations, Amy explains, provide classroom access without altering expectations or content. [11:18] - Amy contrasts accommodations with modifications, which lower expectations to match processing or cognitive challenges. [13:54] - Amy highlights knowing accommodation vs. modification and likens it to learning another country’s customs. [15:12] - Remediation can help develop missing skills caused by neurological learning differences, not intellectual deficits. [17:31] - Research shows us that remediation builds entirely new neural pathways, effectively rewiring students’ brains. [20:17] - When schools won’t fund remediation, parents have to seek external diagnoses and licensed therapists. [23:19] - Hear how true remediation requires trained therapists. [26:45] - Remediation needs to be paired with accommodations like audiobooks for full access. [27:39] - Amy explains how modifications alter curriculum expectations, influencing future school and college options. [30:02] - Amy suggests that teachers can use accommodations across the board to help build learning from the ground up. [32:32] - Starting instruction too high frustrates students, while accommodations let them build confidence gradually. [34:59] - Educational advocates help parents navigate laws, testing, and school obligations, helping to ease parental burdens. [38:10] - Timely intervention prevents years of lost learning caused by eligibility cutoffs. [41:21] - Amy encourages early remediation and teaching children to self-advocate for their accommodations. [44:29] - Honest conversations can help kids avoid developing inaccurate, damaging narratives about struggles. [45:48] - Amy reframes nonstandard brains as strengths that offer unique ways of seeing the world. [47:02] - What is the best way to get in touch with Amy Cushner? Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Amy Cushner: Phone: 972-855-8949 Email: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/38086615

Ep. 245: What Is Executive Function Coaching? with Rana Lustyan 10/07/2025

Ep. 245: What Is Executive Function Coaching? with Rana Lustyan Joining us for this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning is Rana Lustyan! is the founder of Growing Minds Coaching, where she helps students with learning differences develop confidence, independence, and academic achievement. She combines strength-based coaching, neuroscience-informed methods, and practical executive function tools to create personalized routines that last. Rana shares her personal journey with ADHD and how it inspired her to help students, especially girls and young women, build the essential life skills needed for lasting confidence and independence. She explains that executive functioning coaching is distinct from educational therapy or tutoring; it is a dynamic, strengths-based approach that helps individuals develop practical skills around planning, organization, time management, task initiation, and more. Rana's POSITIVE acronym outlines the key areas of focus, from prioritizing goals to evaluating progress! The coaching process involves an in-depth intake to understand the student's unique challenges and strengths, followed by weekly 45-minute sessions and regular accountability check-ins. Rana highlights the importance of building trust and meeting the student where they are, often sharing her own experiences to help them feel understood and supported. Rana's approach includes periodic family team meetings to celebrate wins and address any additional concerns, with the ultimate goal of autonomy and equipping students with the tools to manage their lives independently. She also discusses the phasing-out process, where support is gradually reduced as the student gains confidence and mastery. Whether struggling with procrastination, perfectionism, or emotional regulation, Rana's executive functioning coaching can be helpful, especially for girls and young women with ADHD. Show Notes: [3:02] - explains how executive function coaching builds strengths-based strategies for planning, time management, autonomy, and lifelong resilience. [6:33] - Girls often go undiagnosed with ADHD, masking symptoms through perfectionism, overwork, and internal hyperactivity. [8:54] - Acronyms such as POSITIVE help students remember EF skills such as planning, self-advocacy, and initiation. [11:39] - Task initiation, time management, and visualization strategies support students in overcoming procrastination and distractions. [14:36] - Intake sessions can help gather detailed family, academic, and personal context to build trust and customize coaching. [16:14] - Rana argues that students gain confidence via productive first sessions and ongoing check-ins between weekly meetings. [18:45] - As a coach, Rana validates feelings while guiding students toward solutions parents often mishandle. [20:55] - Executive function struggles may include procrastination, perfectionism, rigidity, emotional regulation issues, and burnout risks. [23:56] - Misinterpreting EF challenges as laziness or lack of motivation delays vital support, especially for girls. [25:19] - Rana argues that family team meetings celebrate student wins, build autonomy, and align goals between parents and children. [28:24] - Rana’s 16-session model promotes autonomy via flexible, individualized coaching cycles. [31:07] - EF coaching normalizes struggles, strengthens family bonds, and equips students for lifelong growth. [34:43] - Rana offers resources and consultations through Growing Minds Coaching’s website and direct email contact! Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Rana Lustyan: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/37905165

Ep. 244: From Burnout to Balance: Supporting Parents Raising Neurodivergent Kids with Leslie Forde 09/16/2025

Ep. 244: From Burnout to Balance: Supporting Parents Raising Neurodivergent Kids with Leslie Forde Joining us for this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning is Leslie Forde! Leslie is the CEO and Founder of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs® and soon-to-be published Author of Repair with Self-Care: Your Guide to the Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs. Her business provides evidence-based tools to help moms reclaim their time and well-being from the never-done-list while also helping employers retain working parents and caregivers. Since March of 2020, over 3,700 parents have participated in her research study (the longest-running of its kind) on the pandemic’s ongoing impact on work, care, and wellness. With more than twenty years in senior leadership and a decade focused on media and technology in childcare, eldercare, mental health, and education, Leslie is a sought-after speaker and consultant. She advises organizations such as HubSpot, Merck, Scholastic, and the Barr Foundation on how to retain and support parents, caregivers, and people of color. Our conversation explores the growing crisis of parental stress and maternal mental health, which has been made so much worse by a perfect storm of factors such as the lasting impacts of the COVID-19 pandemic, rising costs, shortages in healthcare and childcare resources, and the unique challenges faced by parents of neurodivergent children. Leslie shares some insights from her extensive research on the topic, explaining how parents, especially mothers, are struggling to balance the demands of caregiving, household management, and careers, often at the expense of their own well-being. The guilt, shame, and lack of flexibility in the workplace make it especially difficult for many parents to ask for the support that they desperately need. Leslie highlights the critical importance of parents, especially mothers, prioritizing self-care even in small ways to build resilience and model healthy behaviors for their children. She provides practical tips such as identifying a daily "anchor" activity and being mindful of decision fatigue to help parents carve out time for their own mental, physical, and emotional needs. Our conversation also goes into the direct connection between parents' mental health and their children's wellbeing, and how, by supporting parents, we can have a profound impact on the whole family. This conversation offers a powerful and timely exploration of the parental mental health crisis, with practical insights and solutions that can make a real difference for families! Want a deeper dive into today’s topic? Join Karen and Leslie for a ChildNEXUS & Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs Joint Discussion; register ! Show Notes: [2:41] - Leslie argues that rising costs, long wait times, and poor support leave families emotionally and financially strained. [4:15] - Leslie points out how coordinating specialists, schools, and daily routines creates an overwhelming, often invisible burden. [6:13] - Mothers face worsening burnout as post-pandemic losses strip away time, resources, and support systems. [9:58] - Social conditioning and low workplace safety pressure women into overcommitment despite exhaustion and caregiving needs. [12:55] - Leslie asserts that many workplaces equate commitment with overwork, leaving parents afraid to ask for flexibility and support. [15:03] - Leslie points out how parents often feel isolated and ashamed when children struggle academically or socially. [17:39] - Many mothers feel trapped without partner support or financial means. [20:51] - Leslie asserts that ignoring self-care leads to burnout that harms health, family, and career stability. [23:46] - Exhausted parents struggle to engage with energetic children, straining relationships and shared activities. [25:47] - Leslie argues that parenting requires constant exhausting micro-adjustments, like juggling trains on endlessly shifting tracks. [28:36] - Dr. Wilson recommends Leslie’s for guidance. [29:11] - Leslie advises parents to establish a daily anchor habit and reduce fatigue around making decisions. [32:57] - Dr. Wilson points out that it's important to support parents of neurodivergent children while also encouraging their own self-care practices. [33:28] - Leslie agrees and reports that post-pandemic self-care has declined as responsibilities have increased and systems have become more strained. [36:48] - Leslie praises Karen’s guidance for parents while emphasizing time management and self-care as very important. [38:10] - What is the best way to reach Leslie? Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Leslie Forde: Email: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/38079095

Ep. 243: From Inclusion to Belonging: Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools with Amanda Morin 09/02/2025

Ep. 243: From Inclusion to Belonging: Creating Neurodiversity-Affirming Schools with Amanda Morin We are happy to welcome to the show this week! Amanda is a neurodivergent advocate for neurodiversity, an award-winning author of six books, an early childhood expert, and a nationally recognized speaker who is passionate about building accessible and inclusive spaces for neurodivergent people. Drawing on her background in learning and child development, Universal Design for Learning (UDL), special education, advocacy, and mental health, she translates complex information into clear, practical insights for parents, educators, and employers striving to design inclusive content, programs, and strategies that make the world more accessible for everyone. In our discussion today, Amanda unpacks the concept of "neurodiversity-affirming" schools - classrooms that go beyond just "including" neurodivergent students and instead actively celebrate and empower them. She explains how a neurodiversity-affirming approach involves letting go of rigid structures and control and instead creating flexible, "controlled chaos" environments in which all students can learn and thrive in the ways that work best for them, benefitting not just neurodivergent students but, again, all learners! Amanda also highlights the importance of using especially precise and affirming language, distinguishing between "neurodivergent" (those whose brains process information differently) and the broader "neurodiverse" (the natural diversity of all minds). She also discusses how naming and understanding differences, rather than avoiding them, can go a long way toward destigmatizing neurodivergence. Perhaps especially crucially, Amanda explores the "double empathy problem," the idea that communication challenges often stem from a two-way lack of understanding rather than just deficits in the neurodivergent individual, and she shares some practical strategies for bridging this gap, such as narrating facial expressions and using visual cues. As the new school year approaches, this conversation is sure to offer some invaluable insights for educators seeking to create truly inclusive, strengths-based classrooms that empower all students to do their best! Show Notes: [3:06] - highlights moving beyond “inclusion” toward belonging, creating flexible, student-centered learning environments. [6:43] - Neurodiversity-affirming practices benefit all students by gradually rethinking classrooms to embrace every mind. [9:37] - Just like biodiversity, neurodiversity means different minds adapt uniquely but remain equally valid. [11:25] - Amanda explains neurodivergence as brain-environment interactions that require supportive accommodations. [13:21] - Stigma is a major barrier to neurodivergent students’ mental health and persistence. [14:14] - Naming diagnoses openly helps students replace self-blame with understanding. [17:00] - Hiding diagnoses often leads children to form harmful, inaccurate stories about themselves. [18:24] - Amanda urges giving kids language to explain their struggles instead of adopting negative labels. [20:08] - Amanda touches upon the double empathy problem in which communication requires adjustment between neurodivergent and neuro-normative people. [23:44] - Teachers can model narrating emotions and expressions to reduce students’ stress around social cues. [24:06] - Hear how Amanda uses a “battery activity” to help students visualize and communicate their energy levels. [27:12] - Amanda encourages urges describing behavior neutrally rather than judging it as “good” or “bad.” [30:13] - Hear how Amanda prefers “neuro-normative” over “neurotypical” because it avoids implying a single correct way of being. [32:37] - Amanda highlights a project reframing IEPs around strengths and motivation, not just deficits and skills gaps. [35:37] - Amanda encourages small classroom changes that affirm neurodivergent students’ agency and sense of belonging. [37:52] - Amanda invites educators to connect! Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Amanda Morin: Email Amanda: Phone: 1-207-907-9182 /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/37882220

Ep. 242: How One Woman Rewired Her Brain and Created a Path for Struggling Learners with Barbara Arrowsmith-Young 08/19/2025

Ep. 242: How One Woman Rewired Her Brain and Created a Path for Struggling Learners with Barbara Arrowsmith-Young Joining us for this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning is ! Barbara is a pioneering author and innovator in neuroeducation, known for applying neuroplasticity to improve cognitive function. Since 1978, her work has helped individuals with learning difficulties, brain injuries, addiction, and age-related decline, and it is now used worldwide. She shares her groundbreaking journey in her bestselling book and her , and continues advancing research as Director of the program. In this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning, Barbara shares her deeply powerful journey of overcoming significant learning difficulties she faced from a young age. Growing up in the 1950s, Barbara was labeled as "slow" and was told by her teachers not to have high expectations for her academic future, but despite the challenges, her mother's determination and Barbara's resilience allowed her to learn how to read, write, and do basic math, although she continued to struggle with comprehension and processing language. As an adult, Barbara had an epiphany after reading the work of neuropsychologist Alexander Luria. She discovered that the root of her learning difficulties was due to specific areas of her brain that were underperforming, so inspired by research on neuroplasticity, she set out to create cognitive exercises that could strengthen those weaker brain regions. She reflects in this episode on how, to her amazement, the exercises led to a huge change in her cognitive abilities, allowing her to fully engage in conversations, understand complex concepts, and more. Barbara discusses how she was determined to share this life-changing approach, founded the Arrowsmith School, and developed the Arrowsmith Program, which has now helped thousands of students around the world. She passionately advocates for integrating neuroscience and cognitive training into education, empowering all learners to enhance their brain's capacity and unlock their full potential. If you enjoy this episode, you will have the wonderful opportunity to learn more about Barbara's work during a live webinar on September 17th, 2025. Don't miss this chance to dive deeper into the power of neuroplasticity and how it can transform the lives of students who struggle with learning differences! Show Notes: [2:36] - reflects on having been labeled "slow" in grade one, internalizing shame before learning disabilities were even recognized. [4:38] - Despite intense effort and her mother's support, Barbara masked her difficulties with memorization and compensation. [7:32] - Barbara points out how brain imaging reveals students with learning difficulties overuse their strengths to compensate. [10:48] - Many students experience intense despair from persistent, misunderstood learning challenges. [11:17] - Barbara opens up about having struggled with suicidal ideation in eighth grade. [14:25] - Even though there is longstanding research, many schools still neglect brain-based approaches to learning. [15:13] - Hear how Barbara’s father instilled belief in problem-solving and how Alexander Luria’s work revealed the source of her struggles. [18:06] - Newly inspired by neuroplasticity research, Barbara designed clock-based brain exercises to help stimulate specific neural regions. [21:06] - Hear how mastering four-handed clocks transformed Barbara’s comprehension. [22:53] - Barbara created to help integrate brain-based learning into mainstream education. [25:31] - Real change requires targeted brain exercises and not just accommodations. [26:50] - Barbara finds immense joy in witnessing cognitive transformation and improved mental health in her students. [29:05] - Arrowsmith lowers cortisol and anxiety while supporting recovery from learning difficulties. [32:07] - Hear how Barbara developed diverse cognitive programs to enhance brain function. [35:43] - Barbara urges education to embrace neuroplasticity early, believing that cognitive growth leads to empathy and future problem-solvers. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Barbara Arrowsmith-Young: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/37577995

Ep. 241: How to Be a ‘Screen-Smart’ Parent with Jodi Gold, MD 08/05/2025

Ep. 241: How to Be a ‘Screen-Smart’ Parent with Jodi Gold, MD We are very excited to welcome of to the show this week. Dr. Jodi Gold is a board-certified pediatric and adult psychiatrist with expertise in child and adolescent pharmacology, reproductive psychiatry, psychotherapy for mood and anxiety disorders, and the impact of digital technology. She has earned multiple awards from esteemed organizations, including NIMH and AACAP. From 2006 to 2012, she led the child and adolescent psychiatry outpatient department at Weill Cornell and has since taught and mentored at both Cornell and Columbia. Dr. Gold is also the author of the acclaimed book , which offers guidance on balancing children's digital media use. While raising kids in a world full of tech can feel like a constant balancing act (especially when every headline warns of the harmful effects of digital overload), Dr. Gold offers a refreshing perspective on parenting in the digital age. Rather than prescribing rigid rules or causing/worsening parental anxiety, she advocates for a very thoughtful, flexible approach that stems from empathy, honesty, and consistency. Dr. Gold recontextualizes the conversation around screen time, encouraging parents to focus less on hours and more on habits. She stresses that the same principles that guide good parenting offline, such as structure and communication, apply online as well. What is most important, she argues, isn’t perfect control but rather presence. Parents don’t need to be tech experts to be effective; they just need to stay curious, open, and willing to engage with their kids’ digital lives. Hear strategies for building trust and setting healthy boundaries that match each child’s developmental stage and personality. Dr. Gold highlights the importance of understanding your own digital behaviors too, since kids are always watching and also often imitating what they see. From gaming and social media to group texts and YouTube spirals, this episode encourages parents to stay connected and involved without becoming overbearing or checked out. Show Notes: [2:25] - argues that fear and shame get in the way of effective parenting, but staying engaged online and offline builds trust. [4:06] - Parents need to align tech rules with their own habits and use an authoritative but balanced parenting style. [7:10] - Dr. Gold encourages parents to follow their child's digital interests with curiosity and focus on resilience, not just restriction. [9:12] - Many parents understand school schedules but overlook how their kids use devices day-to-day. [11:18] - Knowing your child’s social context can help you determine whether tech isolates or supports them. [14:09] - Dr. Gold points out how parents of younger kids tend to engage more with tech use. [16:16] - Tailoring tech rules to each child’s needs is important, especially for children with ADHD and/or anxiety. [18:45] - Dr. Gold observes that kids today are fearless digital natives, so parents must stay present and observant even when not experts. [20:20] - How kids use tech is more important than how long; they need focus rather than just limits [21:58] - It's important to combine empathy with structure and to use tech as a reward. [24:53] - Parents should set honest limits around screen time without guilt, using structure and self-awareness. [26:49] - Dr. Gold believes that occasional screen use is okay; just be honest about your own usage, and stay involved in your child’s life. [28:14] - Strong parent-child communication and self-awareness can help kids manage digital life and mental health. [31:21] - Parent the digital world the same way you parent offline - based on your values, not on fear. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Email Dr. Wilson: Connect with Jodie Gold, MD: Email: info@thegoldcenters.com Phone: 212-729-6410 /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/37006885

Ep. 240: Using the Summer Months to Advance Reading Skills with Dr. Steve Truch & Devan Kublik 07/15/2025

Ep. 240: Using the Summer Months to Advance Reading Skills with Dr. Steve Truch & Devan Kublik We have not just one but two guests for you this week - Dr. Steve Truch and Devan Kublik! Steve has over 50 years of experience in education, beginning as a junior high school English teacher and then working as a school psychologist, ultimately founding clinics across North America to provide one-on-one therapy for students with learning difficulties. He is the primary author of the Discover educational programs used at the clinics and has written several books and articles on reading and cognitive assessment. His work reflects a continued commitment to aligning educational methods with current research, particularly in the science of reading. Devan Kublik holds a Bachelor of Arts in Linguistics and has been with The Reading Foundation since 1999, currently serving as Director of Standards across all locations. She has held leadership roles in multiple clinics and has contributed to nearly every aspect of the organization, including training, program development, and student assessment. Outside of work, she enjoys traveling, reading, and mountain activities. In our conversation, we discuss the issue of reading proficiency among U.S. students, where only 35% of 4th graders are considered proficient readers. We explore how reading instruction methods have changed and evolved over time, from the whole language method to the current emphasis on the science of reading and phonics. Dr. Truch explains how the speech-to-print method, focusing on teaching the phonemic structure of words and their corresponding visual representations, can be a more effective way to help students learn to read. Devan also highlights the importance of "dosage” (the intensity and duration of intervention) in speeding along the process, especially during the summer when students are not constrained by the school schedule. She shares how the Reading Foundation's programs offer individualized and immersive instruction customized to each student's unique needs, often leading to remarkable changes in their confidence and academic performance. Devan and Dr. Truch stress that while reading instruction has been a longstanding challenge for the education system, solutions that are backed by research are available, and that the key is connecting families with the right resources to help their children overcome reading difficulties and unlock their full potential. So, whether your child is a reluctant reader or has faced persistent challenges, this episode offers valuable insights and a glimmer of hope. Show Notes: [2:55] - Dr. Truch argues that teaching methods for reading often ignore science and harm struggling learners. [5:20] - Traditional phonics rules are inconsistent, but speech-to-print offers a more logical alternative. [8:49] - Dr. Truch adds that teaching children sound-to-spelling connections can lead to better results than relying on abstract rules. [12:11] - Summer can accelerate reading gains for struggling students via structured but individualized intervention. [15:46] - Proper intervention speeds along progress, especially when it is intensive, customized, and monitored. [18:04] - Summer also allows for customized literacy support based on a student’s specific needs. [19:14] - Dr. Truch points out how effective reading intervention depends on both program dosage and using the correct method. [21:37] - Untreated reading struggles often leave lasting emotional damage, sometimes even resembling symptoms of PTSD. [23:29] - When parents lack the training to lead interventions, both they and the children can get frustrated. [25:45] - Rapid emotional changes happen once children experience early success via reading intervention. [27:24] - Early, focused instruction can boost lifelong success for struggling readers, as is backed by data and expert recognition. [30:01] - Hear how, with the right tools, one shy girl gained confidence and began reading aloud at school. [32:17] - Dr. Truch explains how targeted assessments can help pinpoint delays. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with the Guests: Email: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/37006765

Ep. 239: Balancing Summer Rest and Learning Support for Diverse Learners with Ashley Harding 07/01/2025

Ep. 239: Balancing Summer Rest and Learning Support for Diverse Learners with Ashley Harding We are happy to welcome Ashley Harding to the podcast this episode. Ashley is a fourth-generation educator and is deeply committed to educational equity. She holds degrees from USC and Tufts University in Child Development, and her career spans more than a decade, during which she has supported students and families in private and independent schools and contributed to global education initiatives in South Africa and Belize. Formerly the Director of External Engagement for a national school network, she has co-authored research on disparities affecting Black and Latino males and has been featured in The Wall Street Journal. Through her organization, North Star Academics, and her roles with BEAN and CHADD, Ashley empowers students with evidence-based strategies and advocates for those with learning differences. Ashley discusses how parents can reframe the summer from a "deficit mindset" to an "opportunity mindset" for their children, stressing the importance of balance and allowing students time for rest, rejuvenation, and exploration of their interests outside of academics. She explains that while academic growth is incredibly important during the school year, the summer months provide a critical window for students to develop their identity, independence, and executive functioning skills, and she encourages parents to avoid overwhelming children with intensive academic programs and instead focus on activities that build upon confidence, self-reflection, and a sense of belonging. Our conversation highlights the need for families (both parents and students) to take time for rest and reconnection over the summer, with Ashley suggesting a plan that gradually transitions from unstructured free time in June to more purposeful activities in July and August, such as previewing curriculum, reviewing foundational skills, and setting new goals for the upcoming school year. We also discuss the importance of real-world learning experiences such as cooking, budgeting, and travel, which can naturally reinforce academic concepts while also nurturing executive functioning abilities. Ashley stresses the importance of allowing children, especially older ones, the freedom to explore their interests and discover their passions during the summer months. This episode of the show provides a thoughtful and balanced approach to supporting students' overall development during the summer break, with a focus on building upon resilience, independence, and a renewed sense of purpose for the next academic year! Show Notes: [3:03] - highlights summer as a time for rest and emotional integration after academic growth. [5:53] - Ashley points out how colleges tend to value well-roundedness, which begins with developing personal interests as early as middle school. [8:12] - Especially post-COVID, students and families need rest to recover from years of ongoing emotional exhaustion. [10:27] - Ashley believes that June should involve winding down, celebrating growth, and gently preparing for the next school year. [13:10] - Immediate academic intensity post-school year can overwhelm neurodivergent kids in need of rest. [14:20] - Ashley urges families to teach kids balance by allowing rest as an act of resistance. [17:02] - Summer is such an important time for families to rest, reconnect, and nurture mental health together. [18:12] - Children ultimately model behavior from parents, so truly resting teaches them balance over productivity. [22:14] - Ashley argues that fun, low-pressure activities such as cooking can help kids grasp and retain math concepts more effectively. [24:17] - Ashley likes reminding families to do as much real-world, practical learning as possible. [27:37] - Kids may need more sleep and rest, but they do still benefit from consistent routine and structure. [29:20] - Summer offers kids space for self-reflection and growth beyond just grades and academic pressure. [31:35] - Ashley points out how summer is ideal for reinforcing key executive functioning skills like memory, time management, and planning. [33:36] - Allowing kids to self-monitor can help build confidence and resilience. [36:44] - Unstructured time helps parents rediscover their children and builds upon a deeper sense of belonging at home. [39:23] - Summer is such a gift because it offers time to reconnect, regroup, and learn more about your growing child! Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Ashley: Phone: 310-853-3208 /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/37000260

Ep. 238: Dismantling DEI and the Department of Education: How Changes Impact Your Child with Vickie Brett & Amanda Selogie 06/17/2025

Ep. 238: Dismantling DEI and the Department of Education: How Changes Impact Your Child with Vickie Brett & Amanda Selogie We are excited to welcome back guests Vickie Brett and Amanda Selogie of the . Vickie Brett is a bilingual attorney who advocates for families' legal rights via the Inclusive Education Project, with a focus on empowering monolingual Spanish-speaking families. Dedicated to supporting clients facing challenges in the education system, she actively contributes pro bono work via the Los Angeles Superior Court and UCI Law School’s Special Education Law Project. Amanda Selogie holds a background in Child and Adolescent Development and law, with a strong focus on civil rights and educational advocacy. Through her work with the Inclusive Education Project and various community roles, she promotes inclusive education and empowers children with disabilities and their families. They join the show for this episode to discuss the current potential threat to educational equity in the United States. Political pressures are mounting to dismantle the Department of Education and roll back diversity, equity, and inclusion (DEI) initiatives, and Amanda and Vickie reveal what’s truly at risk for vulnerable students and their families. The conversation clarifies how efforts to get rid of the Department of Education gain dangerous momentum via legislation tying special education funding to anti-DEI policies, threatening critical services such as mental health programs, independent educational evaluations, and vocational training, all supports that many schools already struggle to maintain. We even highlight real-world impacts, like a San Diego vocational program losing funding despite the clear needs of its students. We also expose some common misconceptions behind “education returning to the states,” showing how dismantling federal oversight damages protections against discrimination. The episode stresses the fact that federal funds remain a lifeline, especially in states reliant on them, and that cuts will only deepen existing inequities, further widening the gap between students who get support and those who don’t. Our conversation also highlights how these changes create anxiety and confusion for families with Individualized Education Plans (IEPs) and 504 accommodations, and Vickie and Amanda warn that insufficient resources push children away from education and toward the prison system. The episode closes with a clear call to action: please make your voice heard to legislators at every level, as this can help impact the future of education. Vickie and Amanda share some practical tools and strategies for advocacy, stressing that the fight to protect equitable education is ongoing and impacts everyone, regardless of whether you live in a blue state or a red state! Show Notes: [3:33] - Republicans seek to dismantle the Department of Education using bills and budget changes, mostly stalled. [6:55] - Vickie asserts that federal oversight is important because local systems often fail, so families must engage more in IEPs. [9:01] - Criticism of the Department ignores state control and risks losing discrimination protections. [11:51] - Amanda points out that many opponents rely on federal education funds, complicating efforts to cut that funding. [13:57] - Proposed funding changes would allow states to pool IDEA money, risking cuts to mental health and after-school programs. [15:21] - Vickie offers a real-life example of San Diego students facing grants being shifted away from vocational programs. [17:12] - COVID grant freezes worsen teacher shortages while a Supreme Court case threatens public education funding. [20:41] - Vickie laments that the preschool-to-prison pipeline worsens. [23:48] - Amanda assures listeners that everything that the Trump administration has done since January has been to benefit the wealthy. [25:56] - Expelling struggling preschoolers worsens inequity, and dismantling DEI erases protections for neurodiverse children. [28:35] - Head Start funding is sadly insufficient and only partially protected. [31:28] - Learn about an app called , which makes it easier than ever to make phone calls to your representatives. [33:46] - Vickie argues that building parent networks and supporting advocacy groups strengthens efforts against education attacks. [36:25] - Amanda adds that laws require inclusive education and that parents need to advocate locally to protect programs. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Vickie & Amanda: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36821605

Ep. 237: Beyond Accommodations: How Neurodivergent Students Can Thrive in College with Eric Endlich, Ph.D 06/03/2025

Ep. 237: Beyond Accommodations: How Neurodivergent Students Can Thrive in College with Eric Endlich, Ph.D Joining us this week is guest . Dr. Endlich is a clinical psychologist and founder of , which specializes in guiding neurodivergent students through the college application process. An advocate and expert in the field and a neurodivergent adult himself, he co-teaches a UC Irvine course for educational consultants, manages a large Facebook group for parents of neurodivergent students, and serves on advisory boards related to autism and neurodiversity. Dr. Endlich joins us this week to discuss the far too often overlooked challenges that neurodivergent students face when transitioning from high school to college. While gaining admission is one big challenge, the real challenge is succeeding once on campus, and Dr. Endlich sheds some light on some of the key differences between being college-capable and college-ready, highlighting the fact that students with learning and thinking differences are typically at much higher risk of not completing their degrees. We also explore some practical strategies to help students prepare for the increased independence and self-advocacy required in college life, with topics including building executive functioning skills in high school, the value of gap years, and how parents can gradually transition from being advocates to coaches. Dr. Endlich even talks about how to find the right college fit and make the most of on-campus resources, especially for students needing accommodations and support programs. Whether your teen is just starting high school or gearing up for college in the upcoming fall season, this episode of the podcast truly provides some practical insights into how to foster independence! Show Notes: [2:39] - Dr. Endlich asserts that too many students focus too much on getting into college rather than graduating from it. [4:43] - Success in college requires more than just academic capability; independence and self-management skills are also important. [6:36] - College demands greater self-organization and disability accommodation compared to high school. [8:57] - Dr. Endlich argues that parents should shift from advocating for their child to empowering their independence. [10:26] - Gradually transferring daily responsibilities helps students build independence before college. [13:02] - Taking a gap year can improve college preparedness and help prevent academic burnout. [15:10] - Dr. Endlich adds that gap years can strengthen a student's portfolio and develop valuable life skills. [18:02] - Consider the long-term value of a degree and explore financial aid options. [19:51] - Dr. Endlich points out how skill development can happen during high school, gap years, or throughout college. [22:44] - Even if colleges lack support, external programs can provide assistance and guidance. [25:26] - Visiting various colleges helps students identify their preferences and find the right fit. [28:09] - It's also important to make visits to dining halls and have meetings with support staff, helping to reveal the college's suitability. [31:02] - Even without campus visits, virtual tours and accepted-student events can also offer some valuable insights. [34:58] - Bridge programs help students acclimate to college life before the official start. [36:28] - Dr. Endlich states that carefully managing the application process and having backup plans can help reduce anxiety. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Eric Endlich, Ph.D: Email: Phone: (833) WE-APPLY (toll free) /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36728045

Ep. 236: Beyond Racial Stress: Empowering Teens to Navigate Cultural Identity and Build Resilience with Dr. Ryan DeLapp 05/20/2025

Ep. 236: Beyond Racial Stress: Empowering Teens to Navigate Cultural Identity and Build Resilience with Dr. Ryan DeLapp We warmly welcome to Diverse Thinking Different Learning to discuss how to help teens manage and overcome racial stress. Dr. Ryan C.T. DeLapp is a licensed psychologist and the founder of the REACH program at The Ross Center, specializing in helping individuals cope with racial and cultural stress. With more than ten years of research and clinical practice, he has developed evidence-based treatments to build resilience in teens and adults. Dr. DeLapp has also authored more than twenty publications and delivered over 100 presentations on assessing and treating racial and cultural stress. His insights are also compiled in his workbook, . Dr. DeLapp joins us for this episode to discuss the challenges young people face when coping with racial and cultural stress. Drawing from his experience working with teens and young adults in the Bronx, Dr. DeLapp shares how his REACH program (Racial, Ethnic, and Cultural Healing) was born from a need to address the emotional and psychological impacts of discrimination, particularly during the social upheavals of 2020. Dr. DeLapp breaks down three types of stress: emotional, agency, and identity stress. He explains why it is so crucial to identify and address each one, and he highlights the fact that stressors related to race and culture often go unrecognized, manifesting instead as behavioral issues like school refusal or disengagement. Our conversation also covers practical approaches to helping young people recognize and manage their experiences with cultural stress. Via storytelling and community involvement, Dr. DeLapp’s methods encourage youth and caregivers to build resilience. This episode of the show also stresses the importance of celebrating cultural identity, not just addressing stress, with Dr. DeLapp advocating for community-driven healing and support that go beyond crisis management, highlighting empowerment via knowledge and cultural pride. This episode is essential listening for educators, caregivers, and anyone invested in the mental well-being of young people navigating cultural stress. Show Notes: [2:44] - reveals how he created the to address cultural stress affecting youth and adults. [5:25] - Dr. DeLapp's book helps young people recognize and manage the impact of racism and cultural stress. [7:34] - Emotional, agency, and identity stress are examined. [10:34] - Dr. DeLapp encourages clinicians to explore cultural stress as a root cause of problematic behaviors. [13:10] - Dr. DeLapp designed the book to empower youth and families to help them articulate racial stress. [14:48] - Inspired by racial coping models, the book guides youth to clarify, cope, and heal effectively. [17:46] - Dr. DeLapp asserts that community healing involves using support networks to take on racial and cultural stress. [19:51] - Bridging generational divides helps adults empathize with youth facing cultural stress. [22:02] - Storytelling leads to solidarity among communities of color by sharing diverse experiences. [25:05] - Dr. DeLapp argues that educators need to reflect on cultural stress to better support their students. [28:48] - Celebrating cultural heritage can ultimately build pride (not just resilience) against discrimination. [30:54] - Thriving means embracing strengths while healing from and coping with cultural stress. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Dr. Ryan DeLapp: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36476905

Ep. 235: Why Stress Sabotages Learning and How Parents and Educators Can Help with Jerome Schultz, PhD 05/06/2025

Ep. 235: Why Stress Sabotages Learning and How Parents and Educators Can Help with Jerome Schultz, PhD We are happy to welcome to Diverse Thinking Different Learning this week. Dr. Schultz is a clinical neuropsychologist and lecturer at Harvard Medical School with nearly four decades of experience working with children and young adults with learning and behavioral challenges. A former special education teacher and author of , he has held academic positions at several universities, directed multiple clinics, and maintained a private practice in Wellesley, MA for over three decades. He holds degrees from Ohio State and Boston College and completed a postdoctoral fellowship in pediatric neuropsychology at Tufts Medical Center. Dr. Schultz joins us today to talk about stress - not your everyday kind of frustrations, but the kind that keeps kids awake at night and makes school feel unbearable. Dr. Schultz discusses the significant impact of stress on children’s learning and behavior, revealing the difference between tolerable stress, which is manageable, and toxic stress, which can disrupt a child’s ability to think and learn effectively. We explore how toxic stress can alter brain function, leaving children in a constant state of alert and fear, making everyday tasks like schoolwork feel overwhelming. As we dig into the science behind stress, Dr. Schultz offers some great insights into how to help kids build confidence and resilience, highlighting the importance of framing challenges in a way that helps kids see their own strengths and capabilities. He also discusses how well-meaning encouragement (such as “I know you can do this!”) can backfire by actually adding pressure, and with real-life examples, including strategies for parents and educators, we reveal how small changes in approach (such as helping kids break tasks into manageable pieces or allowing time for a quick break) can lead to a more productive and less stressful learning environment. This episode of the show offers strategies that can help children overcome stress and set them up for long-term success, both in and out of the classroom. Show Notes: [2:37] - explains that stress is a natural response that helps protect us from perceived danger, though it’s evolved. [4:36] - Stress varies between individuals, with toxic stress being long-term and damaging to mental health. [7:07] - Learn how stress impacts learning and how well-meaning encouragement can backfire by increasing pressure on struggling kids. [10:58] - Parents and teachers need practical strategies to support kids experiencing stress. [11:28] - Dr. Schultz discusses how kids' reactions to tasks depend on their belief in success. [14:59] - Rating task difficulty and ability helps kids assess challenges and match them with their capabilities. [16:41] - To recap, Dr. Schultz explains that matching task difficulty and confidence helps kids manage stress and build self-esteem via success. [19:23] - When students feel overwhelmed, breaking tasks into smaller parts can help reset their confidence and mindset. [21:54] - Success enhances brain chemistry, while failure creates a negative mindset that can heighten stress. [23:53] - Dr. Schultz gives an example of coaches using video feedback to correct errors. [25:47] - Dr. Schultz argues that a student's readiness and willingness to complete a task depend on timing and emotional state. [28:31] - Increased pressure on teachers and difficult curricula contribute to stress in both students and educators. [31:06] - Meditation in schools improves behavior and academics, offering students an important time to relax. [33:07] - Dr. Schultz points out that engaging kids in creating their own relaxation strategies helps them more effectively manage stress. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Jerome Schultz, PhD: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36442420

Ep. 234: Understanding and Addressing Math Anxiety with Aditya Nagrath, PhD 04/29/2025

Ep. 234: Understanding and Addressing Math Anxiety with Aditya Nagrath, PhD This week on Diverse Thinking Different Learning, we welcome . Dr. Nagrath is the founder of and helps students overcome math anxiety, rapidly advancing their skills with just ten minutes of practice a few times a week. He holds a PhD in Mathematics and Computer Sciences and has over three decades of experience as a software engineer, entrepreneur, author, and speaker, working on a wide range of projects from atomic clocks to mobile apps. Dr. Nagrath joins us for this episode to discuss mathematics anxiety - where it comes from, how it’s misunderstood, how to address it and more. A child’s early struggles with math are not always just academic but are also emotional and potentially even life-changing. Dr. Nagrath draws from his rich background in math, computer science, and education to help us break down why so many students begin falling behind in math as early as kindergarten and how early delays often snowball into years of lost confidence, missed opportunities, and career shifts away from math-intensive fields. This isn’t just about numbers or curriculum, however. As Dr. Nagrath explains, math anxiety is often rooted in beliefs such as “I’m not a math person” - beliefs that can trigger lifelong avoidance and reinforce themselves with every uncomfortable encounter with numbers. This is truly a vicious circle that hinders growth and learning well into adulthood. The conversation challenges the common misconception that disliking math is harmless. How early numeracy can actually influence language development, how adult comments can unconsciously pass limiting beliefs to children, and why literacy-focused initiatives may be unintentionally crowding out math readiness. Dr. Nagrath also tells us about Elephant Learning, a tech-based platform that adapts to each student’s comprehension level and uses gamified learning to rebuild mathematical confidence from the ground up. This episode serves as a reminder that math isn’t just a subject but a gateway and that what we do (or, for that matter, don’t do) in the earliest years can shape far more than just test scores. Show Notes: [2:22] - explains how working with revealed that minor complaints often mask deeper math anxiety. [5:05] - The belief that "I'm not a math person" stalls effort and future academic/career opportunities. [7:09] - Similar to AI training, learning depends on the meanings that we assign to experiences and challenges. [9:53] - Hear how Dr. Nagrath defines mathematics anxiety. [12:11] - Dr. Nagrath argues that many students' unresolved early math gaps snowball, derailing STEM careers and impacting the economy. [15:48] - Dr. Nagrath also asserts that Algebra is essential because it introduces written mathematics that are needed for interpreting the modern world. [17:40] - Hear how preschool math practice improves children's future reading, writing, and speaking abilities. [19:41] - Dr. Nagrath uses a basketball analogy to demonstrate that practicing math is essential because no alternative "game" exists. [21:46] - Dr. Nagrath explains that Elephant Learning builds math skills by meeting students at their comprehension level with gamified learning. [24:01] - By mapping standards to age levels, Elephant Learning helps students visualize progress. [27:18] - Because of deeply rooted self-doubt, overcoming math anxiety later in life tends to be more difficult. [28:44] - Dr. Nagrath stresses that problem-solving, like basketball, improves with practice rather than innate intelligence. [31:00] - Modern demands require deeper, language-like mathematical understanding. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Aditya Nagrath, PhD: Email: Phone: 303.919.6071 /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36354355

Ep. 233: Body-Based Interventions for Neurodivergent Students with Megan Beardmore, PhD, NCSP 04/22/2025

Ep. 233: Body-Based Interventions for Neurodivergent Students with Megan Beardmore, PhD, NCSP Joining us this week on Diverse Thinking Different Learning is . Dr. Beardmore is a licensed school psychologist with expertise in assessing and treating children, adolescents, and young adults with neurodevelopmental conditions such as autism, ADHD, and learning disabilities, as well as co-occurring anxiety and depression. She received her training at the University of Arizona, completed a postdoctoral fellowship at The Help Group, and worked at UCLA’s Center for Autism Research. She uses evidence-based therapies such as CBT, DBT, mindfulness, and breathwork to support emotional regulation and foster the mind-body connection. Dr. Beardmore returns from to discuss what happens when traditional behavior strategies or even well-known talk therapies simply are not working and to explore what is really going on inside the bodies and brains of neurodivergent kids when emotions run high. Dr. Beardmore helps us unpack the science behind emotional dysregulation. With real-world examples, she breaks down how the autonomic nervous system shapes behavior and why interventions that start with the body rather than the brain can often reach kids when logic and language are not working. Hear how body-based techniques like exhaling, rocking, and self-hugging can offer immediate access to safety and regulation, with our bodies often recognizing safety or danger before our brains even catch up. Also, learn why telling an upset child to “calm down” rarely works. Perhaps most strikingly, Dr. Megan Beardmore shares how small, everyday movements and sensory experiences can help both kids and adults move out of stress and into deeper connection. It’s not about elaborate plans or complicated therapies; it’s about practical and easily accessible tools that speak the body’s language. Whether you're a caregiver, educator, or clinician, this episode offers a refreshing perspective on supporting emotional regulation through science, empathy, and some surprisingly simple strategies. Show Notes: [0:07] - The nervous system greatly influences emotional regulation, especially in neurodivergent students, and joins us to address this. [3:15] - Dr. Beardmore explains that, like a seesaw, the autonomic nervous system seeks balance between stress response and calm. [6:50] - Recognizing behaviors as nervous system responses helps caregivers reframe them as unintentional and not defiant. [8:53] - Since 80% of signals travel body-to-brain, somatic techniques calm emotional overload effectively. [11:38] - Somatic tools, Dr. Beardmore explains, bypass logic, offering kids faster emotional regulation when reasoning is not accessible. [14:27] - Hear how deep breaths and movement-based strategies calm the nervous system by signaling safety. [17:53] - Parents can use these tools to regulate themselves and their child’s nervous system during struggles. [18:32] - Learn how adults modeling self-regulation help children through mirror neurons. [19:39] - To emerge from a “freeze state,” movement, grounding, and heat gradually increase energy and activation. [22:48] - Accessible strategies that don't require fancy equipment help provide immediate support for nervous system regulation. [23:12] - Simple actions like humming or gargling stimulate the vagus nerve, improving nervous system regulation. [26:41] - Being mindful integrates body awareness and breathing to help manage stress, allowing thoughts to pass naturally. [29:49] - There are various tools which support nervous system health, tailored to body needs in different stress responses. [31:05] - Dr. Beardmore touches upon how curiosity around body responses assists with self-regulation. [34:26] - Asking “How do you feel?” can help kids connect strategies with emotional regulation. [36:22] - Dr. Beardmore argues that empowerment ultimately comes from regulating stress without external tools. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Dr. Megan Beardmore: Email: Phone: 424.248.9563 /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36255385

Ep. 232: Turning Kids’ Passions and Enthusiasms into Superpowers with Barry Prizant, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (Re-Air) 04/08/2025

Ep. 232: Turning Kids’ Passions and Enthusiasms into Superpowers with Barry Prizant, Ph.D., CCC-SLP (Re-Air) We are doing a reairing this week of of Diverse Thinking Different Learning in which we talked with . This episode is being revisited at a perfect time because this is Autism Awareness and Acceptance Month. In this episode, Dr. Prizant helps us understand why it’s important to stop labeling certain behaviors in children as intentional defiance or difficulty. Dr. Barry Prizant is a speech-language pathologist with nearly five decades of experience working with individuals with autism and their families. He serves as a Visiting Scholar at Brown University and directs Childhood Communication Services, and he is widely published, including The SCERTS Model as well as multiple books and over 130 scholarly works. Dr. Prizant has delivered more than 900 presentations worldwide, including twice at the United Nations, and he has received many awards for his contributions to the field. The truth (as Dr. Prizant discusses) is that challenging behaviors are not always just the child being deliberately defiant for the sake of it. It is sometimes the child’s way of dealing with anxiety and/or emotional overwhelm, and Dr. Prizant discusses this alongside insights from his book . Encouraging us to reconsider how we interpret challenging behaviors, he suggests that we not try to eliminate these actions but rather try to better understand the reason(s) behind them. Dr. Prizant stresses the fact that real progress comes not from suppressing behaviors but from nurturing a child’s strengths, enhancing their abilities, and providing a supportive environment. After all, in doing so, children can begin to display more positive behaviors and enjoy a greater sense of well-being. Throughout the conversation, we also explore why it's important to take a closer look at children’s interests and passions which are far too often misunderstood or undervalued and how we can use those passions as gateways to growth and learning, so whether you are a parent, teacher, or caregiver, this episode offers valuable insights into how to connect with and support children in more empowering ways. Show Notes: [0:05] - Karen announces a new podcast schedule and reintroduces t’s on kids' passions. [4:35] - Dr. Prizant highlights ’s update and its alignment with evolving autism advocacy. [6:09] - Decades of developmental training helped shape Dr. Prizant’s strength-based, human-centered view of autism. [8:14] - Understanding autistic behavior requires empathy and rejecting interpretations such as “noncompliance.” [10:05] - Dr. Prizant urges professionals to self-reflect and further explore the reasons behind challenging behaviors. [12:31] - Dr. Prizant argues that children cannot learn or connect effectively when overwhelmed emotionally. [15:50] - Echolalia and personal interests can be strengths that lead to communication, connection, and self-esteem. [19:06] - Passion-based learning can evolve into broader knowledge when adults nurture and expand children's interests. [22:47] - Dr. Prizant points out how dismissing a child's passion shuts down connection. [24:13] - Children's deep interests can enrich families and communities, even guiding future career aspirations and expertise. [26:21] - Nurturing a child’s interests can lead to connection, skill development, and social engagement. [29:37] - Some fascinations in childhood fade, but others evolve into lifelong passions or hobbies. [31:47] - Highlighting a child’s strengths can reshape peer perception and lead to more inclusion. [34:42] - Karen praises Uniquely Human for transforming fear and uncertainty into understanding and hope. [35:19] - Dr. Prizant now narrates his audiobook and co-hosts a podcast with an audio engineer who has autism. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Dr. Barry Prizant: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/36044325

Ep. 231: How to Use Students’ Interest and Creativity to Enhance Learning with Victoria Waller, Ed.D. 04/01/2025

Ep. 231: How to Use Students’ Interest and Creativity to Enhance Learning with Victoria Waller, Ed.D. We are so happy to be welcoming back to the podcast this episode. Dr. Waller is a seasoned reading specialist and educational therapist with more than four decades of experience helping children with learning differences, especially ones who teachers have sadly given up on. She is the author of , a finalist for the Foreword Reviews Best Book of the Year in 2022, and has received multiple accolades for her contributions to education. Holding advanced degrees in reading and learning differences, she has shared her expertise nationwide and internationally via speaking engagements and on over 45 podcasts. Dr. Waller joins us in this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning to discuss how unlocking a child’s potential isn’t about forcing them to fit a mold but is rather about tapping into what makes them come alive. She shares how she has spent decades helping children build on skills via their passions and interests. Whether it be a fascination with roller coasters, an obsession with Google, a deep love for history, or even love for Taylor Swift, it is Dr. Waller's belief that real learning happens when students engage with subjects that excite them. Dr. Waller shares remarkable stories of students who transformed their academic struggles into strengths simply by pursuing their interests in creative, hands-on ways. With everything from connecting a child with the Google VP to bringing another face-to-face with an amusement park executive, she proves that meaningful learning truly goes far past just textbooks and standardized testing. She explains why creativity isn’t just about making art but is also about problem-solving, emotional regulation, and thinking critically in ways that traditional education often overlooks. She also offers advice for parents and educators on how to recognize a child’s strengths, incorporate their interests into learning, advocate for early support, and teach with creativity. Dr. Victoria Waller’s insights move to challenge conventional approaches to education, showing that every child (regardless of their learning profile) has the potential to thrive when given the right opportunities, so if you have ever wondered how to help a struggling student find their spark, this conversation is full of practical insights! Show Notes: [2:14] - Dr. Victoria Waller reflects on having realized early in her career that children with learning differences have remarkable strengths. [5:29] - Encouraging children's passions, like cooking or technology, can help unlock their potential and boost confidence. [8:18] - Dr. Waller offers an example of how finding and supporting children's interests can lead to engagement, making learning enjoyable and meaningful. [11:02] - Creativity extends beyond just art and enhances problem-solving, executive functioning, and cognitive flexibility. [12:18] - Dr. Waller argues that every child has a passion, and recognizing it can help reveal their unique intelligence and abilities. [13:27] - Hear about how a non-reading seven-year-old became an expert on U.S. presidents via creative learning. [16:25] - Allowing children to choose how they learn can lead to motivation and meaningful outcomes. [17:10] - Encouraging creativity with everyday materials such as Amazon boxes can boost confidence and engagement in learning. [19:53] - Hear how a child fascinated by Matchbox cars learned by engaging with experts and real-world experiences. [21:38] - A student who was once labeled "disabled" became a trucking company president, truly showcasing the power of passion-based learning. [24:14] - Dr. Waller highlights using children's passions such as music, to teach phonics. [26:34] - Dr. Waller highlights customizing education to students' interests, using Taylor Swift's music as an example. [29:21] - In encouraging creativity in classrooms, Dr. Waller suggests using simple materials to spark children's curiosity. [31:46] - Dr. Waller recommends keeping a box of various items for kids to use for exploration and creativity. [33:53] - Creativity ultimately fosters engagement, critical thinking, and confidence by aligning interests with learning processes. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Dr. Waller: Email: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/35958985

Ep. 230: Executive Functioning & Navigating the Yearly Calendar with Michelle Porjes 03/25/2025

Ep. 230: Executive Functioning & Navigating the Yearly Calendar with Michelle Porjes We are honored to welcome returning guest Michelle Porjes to the show for this episode. Michelle is a licensed educational psychologist and credentialed school psychologist in California with over twenty-five years of experience in education. She holds advanced degrees in Educational and School Psychology from the University of Denver and the University of South Florida, specializing in learning, emotional, and behavioral assessments, as well as teacher coaching and program development. Michelle runs an executive function practice and has authored two e-books on the topic. Michelle joins us in this episode to explore strategies for supporting students in developing essential skills throughout the school year, sharing some practical insights into how families can structure time management, organization, and planning around the academic year. In this episode, we discuss the rhythm of the school year and how certain executive functioning skills are more important at specific times, such as reassessing schedules in March and April, preparing for standardized tests, and managing the demands of spring sports and performances. Michelle highlights helpful strategies for building habits like checking supplies, updating calendars, and ensuring work is completed and submitted. Throughout our discussion, Michelle highlights key techniques such as "show me, don’t tell me” and the importance of self-regulation, especially during stressful periods. She also stresses that executive functioning isn’t just a skill for students but is important for adults too as they take on tasks and effectively manage their time. This episode offers valuable tools for improving executive functioning and reducing stress, helping students and adults balance demands while staying organized and focused. Be sure to check out Michelle’s book , and we hope that you enjoy this conversation! Show Notes: [2:41] - Michelle points out that executive functioning is essential for everyone, with strategies improving over time and varying throughout the year. [5:28] - The school year has a rhythm and consistent tasks like updating calendars help maintain organization. [7:33] - Michelle explains that March and April are key for reassessing schedules, and stresses having consistent study blocks. [11:01] - In April, check supplies, clean backpacks, and focus on self-regulation to help manage stress. [12:42] - Revisiting schedules and using executive functioning skills are important for maintaining organization and balance. [15:32] - Even during vacations, check school tasks to avoid surprises and to balance responsibilities with fun. [18:11] - Tasks aren’t done until shown, and students often need guidance to ensure completion, especially during testing. [19:28] - Michelle argues that standardized testing is important for colleges, teaching time management, and task completion skills. [22:11] - Michelle adds that a structured homework process, self-regulation, and proper preparation are key to performing well. [25:08] - Real success is about balancing priorities and managing time, not just completing tasks. [27:48] - Michelle points out that self-reflection and breaking tasks into smaller pieces can help improve executive functioning. [29:45] - Michelle addresses procrastination, stressing that it often stems from anxiety or avoidance. [31:49] - Accountability can help fight procrastination by addressing underlying issues. [34:43] - Coaching teaches executive functioning skills and provides individuals with guidance on how to apply strategies effectively. [37:11] - Coaching varies per individual, but ongoing support is important for lasting success. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Michelle: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/35836170

Ep. 229: Boosting a Child’s Autonomy with Self-Care Routines with Kristin Lombardi, MA, BCBA & Christine Drew, PhD, BCBA-D 03/18/2025

Ep. 229: Boosting a Child’s Autonomy with Self-Care Routines with Kristin Lombardi, MA, BCBA & Christine Drew, PhD, BCBA-D For this episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning, we are excited to welcome two guests - Kristin Lombardi, MA, BCBA and Christine Drew, PhD, BCBA-D! Kristin Lombardi, MA, BCBA, is a behavior analyst specializing in helping children and families build independent living skills through her private practice in Locust Valley, New York. With expertise in special education, psychology, and behavior analysis, Kristin supports individuals from early childhood through young adulthood, customizing her approach to a range of developmental and support needs. Dr. Christine Drew, PhD, BCBA-D, is an Assistant Professor of Special Education at Auburn University, where she teaches both graduate and undergraduate students. She is involved in Auburn’s inclusive higher education program for students with intellectual disabilities, and before transitioning to academia, she led a middle school behavior program, gaining hands-on experience in supporting students with diverse needs. We touch upon topics in this episode such as how parents and educators can help children with learning challenges develop real independence rather than unintentionally reinforcing dependence. Kristin and Christine are the co-authors of , and they discuss the shift from focusing on deficits to recognizing potential. They challenge the common instinct to always step in and do things for children, explaining why that approach, while well meaning, can actually hold them back. The conversation offers some practical strategies that are grounded in behavioral science, including how to break down complex tasks into small, achievable steps. They share real-life success stories, illustrating how small changes can ultimately lead to big transformations. Whether it's brushing teeth, getting dressed, or prepping for college, helping them become more independent starts with small, everyday moments. Parents who worry that they’ve waited too long to start are sure to find reassurance and a clear starting point, with this discussion also highlighting the role of the home environment in reinforcing new skills and making independence a natural part of daily life. With a focus on empowerment over enablement, this episode offers a thoughtful, science-backed guide for anyone supporting a neurodivergent child on the path to greater autonomy! Show Notes: [2:33] - Hear how Kristin realized the need to bridge the gap between K-12 and inclusive higher education. [3:44] - Christine explains how students with neurodiversity struggle with independence in college due to not having early prep. [6:39] - Hear how a parent mistakenly believed that her child was independent with medication, unaware of her hidden support. [9:09] - Kristin and Christine wrote to help parents fade out support from early childhood. [12:08] - Some students rely on parental presence for routines, making college independence difficult. [14:03] - Many parents lack access to therapists, so the book guides them in teaching life skills to their children. [17:06] - The book focuses on daily routines and the importance of developing skills early. [19:13] - Christine explains how to break down complex routines into steps, making skill-building easier. [22:43] - Breaking tasks down into smaller steps is common in education but overlooked at home. [23:04] - Kristin stresses the need for teaching self-care skills at home rather than relying solely on schools. [25:01] - Christine warns against creating dependency by always assisting children instead of helping them gain independence. [27:15] - Neurotypical children develop independence early, while those with developmental disabilities may require more parental involvement. [28:24] - Parents should gradually reduce their assistance, as sudden independence can be overwhelming. [30:58] - Teaching children to plan ahead for privacy after showering is very important for independent living. [33:45] - It is never too late to teach independence, but prerequisite skills must be developed first. [34:58] - Christine emphasizes starting small by focusing on one daily routine to gradually build independence. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with the Guests: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/35745860

Ep. 228: Understanding Functional Neurological Disorder (FND) with Dr. Samantha Levy 03/11/2025

Ep. 228: Understanding Functional Neurological Disorder (FND) with Dr. Samantha Levy We are excited to have Samantha Levy, PhD join the show again this week to discuss Functional Neurological Disorder (FND). Dr. Samantha Levy is a clinical psychologist specializing in youth with chronic pain disorders. She uses a biopsychosocial approach to address both physical and emotional struggles, working with children, families, and parents to help them align the mind and body for improved functioning. Dr. Levy also runs parent groups, writes a parenting blog for , and works as a psychologist for Whole Child LA. Functional neurological disorder (FND) is a condition in which often debilitating neurological symptoms appear without a clear medical cause, and this episode helps make some sense of FND, from the ways it manifests (paralysis, seizures, sensory disruptions) to the underlying emotional and psychological factors that ultimately shape it. We explore why FND tends to surface in individuals with a history of anxiety, depression, trauma, and/or other medical conditions and how social media and peers, particularly during the COVID-19 pandemic, have played a role in its seeming to be more common. In this episode, you will gain insight into how staying calm, validating emotions, and avoiding reinforcement of symptoms can help support recovery. Dr. Levy helps us understand that treatment for FND is not a one-size-fits-all approach. We discuss the importance of a multidisciplinary approach instead, including individual therapy to address emotional triggers, physical therapy to rebuild control over the body, and family therapy to create a stable support system. We also stress how schools and healthcare providers play a key role in recovery, and we explore strategies to ensure that the right team is in place. This episode of the podcast ultimately offers a message of hope – that FND can feel overwhelming, but with the right interventions, many children see significant improvement, and the experience can even lead to personal growth for the entire family! Show Notes: [2:46] - Dr. Levy explains how FND causes real neurological symptoms without medical explanation and has historically been misdiagnosed. [4:49] - FND can involve paralysis, sensory loss, and/or seizures, resulting from the brain misinterpreting signals. [7:14] - FND often affects individuals with anxiety and can spread via social influence. [10:13] - Dr. Levy discusses how pandemic-related stress and social media exposure contributed to FND symptoms. [12:22] - Dr. Levy argues that identifying emotional, physical, and environmental triggers for FND episodes helps prevent and reduce symptoms. [15:14] - To avoid reinforcing FND symptoms, parents should minimize attention during non-epileptic episodes. [18:45] - Professional guidance is very important for parents who have children with FND. [19:19] - Encouraging open emotional expression helps children with FND take on triggers. [22:43] - Therapy for teens with FND tends to address anxiety, trauma, and coping strategies. [25:22] - Dr. Levy discusses how physical therapy, guided imagery, and emotional validation help teens with FND regain body confidence. [28:38] - Dr. Levy reflects on how a child’s FND episodes decreased significantly after shifting family dynamics. [30:32] - Overprotectiveness can actually worsen FND symptoms, so teens should maintain safe, independent activities. [33:39] - Parents should seek support themselves because their stress can worsen their child's FND symptoms. [35:45] - Dr. Levy points out that FND can be a wake-up call, prompting families to develop healthier ways to handle emotions. [38:00] - Dr. Levy reflects on how a girl’s involuntary kicking symbolized suppressed anger, stressing a need for emotional expression. [41:27] - Various resources such as reactive programs and CHIP webinars help provide support for FND treatment. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Dr. Samantha Levy: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/35616385

Ep. 227: Teen Depression Gone Viral with Dr. Meredith Gansner 03/04/2025

Ep. 227: Teen Depression Gone Viral with Dr. Meredith Gansner We are joined this week by . Dr. Gansner is a child psychiatrist at Boston Children’s Hospital and an instructor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School, specializing in high-risk digital media use in teens. She has received multiple research grants, including a K23 career development award from the National Institute on Drug Abuse, and she is an active member of the American Academy of Child and Adolescent Psychiatry media committee. Her first book, , explores the challenges of treating adolescent depression in the digital age. In this episode, Dr. Meredith Gansner discusses depression in teens, something that has been on the rise especially in today’s digital age. She sheds some light on how adolescent depression often looks different from adult depression, sometimes showing up as irritability, aggression, or even physical symptoms like headaches and stomach pain. She helps us break down why it’s so important for parents to recognize these signs early on and seek professional support instead of just dismissing them as typical teenage behavior. Dr. Gansner also examines the relationship between social media and mental health. While some teens find support online, others are exposed to harmful content that can reinforce unhealthy coping mechanisms and worsen or even cause poor mental health. She offers some practical advice on improving digital media literacy, setting boundaries, and developing safety plans to help young people engage with the internet and social media in a way that is not detrimental to their well-being. Dr. Gansner also discusses effective treatments for teen depression, stressing a multi-faceted approach including lifestyle changes, therapy, and medication when appropriate. She also clarifies the differences between suicidal thoughts and non-suicidal self-injury, offering guidance on how parents and caregivers can respond with the right level of support. With a focus on family-based strategies, this conversation with Dr. Meredith Gansner helps provide insightful information for anyone looking to strengthen emotional resilience in today’s teenagers! Show Notes: [2:13] - Dr. Gansner reflects on initially feeling optimistic about addressing mental health in youth online but grew frustrated. [5:56] - The youth mental health crisis peaked during COVID and remains a pressing issue. [6:23] - Depression is a physiological illness with many contributing risk factors. [8:03] - Teen depression often manifests as irritability or anger, making it harder for parents to recognize. [11:29] - Some children with depression experience physical symptoms like headaches or stomachaches. [13:08] - Hear about the inspiration behind the title of Dr. Gansner’s book. [15:53] - Social media spreads both helpful and harmful information about depression, requiring careful oversight and guidance. [18:32] - Social media can both support and worsen teens' mental health, creating harmful echo chambers. [19:26] - Dr. Gansner feels that rather than banning social media, teaching digital literacy can help children take on harmful content. [21:40] - Teaching teens responsible internet use with guidance, like learning to drive, helps ensure safer engagement. [24:43] - What are some of the best ways to treat depression in teens? [27:31] - Parents often struggle to differentiate suicidal thoughts from non-suicidal self-injury in teens. [28:05] - Dr. Gansner explains that non-suicidal self-injury involves self-harm without suicidal intent, often as a distress signal or coping mechanism. [31:21] - Simply telling teens to "just stop" self-harm can lead to shame, worsening depression and leading to a harmful cycle. [33:17] - Improving sleep is important for teens' emotional resilience, helping prevent impulsive decisions and risky behaviors. [36:58] - Parents limiting their own screen use helps depressed teens feel supported and less isolated. [38:38] - Be sure to get Dr. Gansner’s book at a discounted price ! Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: Connect with Dr. Meredith Gansner: /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/35525590

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