Diverse Thinking Different Learning

Diverse Thinking · Different Learning, a ChildNEXUS podcast, is hosted by pediatric neuropsychologist, mom of two, and ChildNEXUS founder Dr. Karen Wilson. Each week, Dr. Wilson provides support and guidance for parents raising kids with learning differences. Diverse Thinking · Different Learning features informative and inspiring interviews with top experts in their fields, and gives parents and educators the tools and takeaways they need to better understand neurodivergence, learning disabilities, and youth mental health. This podcast informs offers actionable advice to help diverse learners and children with unique needs reach their fullest potential. Parents of diverse learners or children with mental health challenges can access vetted information and connect with qualified professionals at https://www.childnexus.com/.

Ep. 186: Final Sprint: Tips for a Strong School Year Finish - Hunja Koimburi 05/21/2024

Ep. 186: Final Sprint: Tips for a Strong School Year Finish - Hunja Koimburi Welcome back to another episode of Diverse Thinking Different Learning! Tune in this episode as Dr. Karen Wilson welcomes educational therapist Hunja Koimburi to the podcast to discuss end-of-year strategies for students with learning differences. As the school year winds down, students and parents alike face many challenges, including but not limited to completing final projects and managing increased stress levels. Hunja shares his expertise on how parents can support their children during this critical time, highlighting how important it is to understand the unique needs of students with learning differences. He reveals what initially drew him to this field and how his journey from studying economics and law to educational therapy has molded the ways that he helps students. He discusses the importance of using personalized strategies that are tailored to each individual student's unique learning challenge(s), focusing especially on time management and prioritizing tasks. Hunja also elaborates upon practical advice for parents to help their children finish the school year strong, discussing how breaking down large projects into manageable tasks and encouraging a balance between academic commitments and social activities can help relieve overwhelm and stress. Hunja also touches on the importance of helping students reflect on past experiences to improve future performance. As summer quickly approaches, Hunja offers practical ways that parents can effectively use this time to support their child's learning and development, suggesting that parents use the summer to focus on areas that need improvement, but he emphasizes the value of maintaining a balance between relaxation and productive activities to ensure students return to school feeling confident and prepared. Hunja’s insights are a valuable resource for parents seeking to support their children through the end of the academic year and beyond, so tune in to gain practical strategies for helping your child navigate the end-of-year pressures and make the most of their summer break, setting them up for a successful start to the next school year. Show Notes: [2:10] - Hunja Koimburi is here to share his expertise on supporting students with learning differences as they transition to college. [3:01] - Inspired by his experience supporting students with learning differences, Hunja empowers educators and parents to specially tailor teaching and parenting strategies. [5:32] - Hunja emphasizes the importance of addressing learning differences to support students during busy school periods. [8:49] It's important to break down large projects and prioritize them to avoid overwhelm. [11:09] Hunja highlights the need for helping students with learning differences with time management and prioritization. [14:10] Executive functioning coaching can help tackle time blindness and enhance study techniques. [15:01] - Hunja values strategic planning over impulsive optimism to help students with learning differences manage their time. [17:32] - Hunja argues that supporting students with learning difficulties through compassion and practical time management strategies is most effective. [20:56] - Parents can relieve pressure on students by providing external support and temporarily reducing their chores during busy times. [22:43] - Some students experience a downward spiral of anxiety and self-doubt about their academic performance. [24:46] - Providing early deadlines can help students with learning differences manage workloads and reduce anxiety. [26:56] - Help students prepare for transitions and familiarize themselves with upcoming materials in order to reduce stress and overwhelm. [28:17] - Hunja reiterates the importance of early deadlines and long lead times. [31:19] - Short-term rewards motivate students, especially when they're exhausted from a long academic year. [34:51] - Hunja highlights self-paced online tools like and for learning differences, adding that there is a need for accountability and additional support. [36:59] - Hunja suggests that while summer is less ideal due to a lack of current work, it can still be useful for passion projects that require accountability. [38:39] - High schoolers can benefit from summer projects like getting a driver's license or applying for jobs. [39:59] - What are the best ways to get in touch with Hunja? About Our Guest: Hunja Koimburi is a Director at , where he specializes in executive functioning support. He is passionate about the intersection of neurodivergence, executive functioning, and learning. He believes that developing a growing self-understanding of one’s learning profile is key to building lasting executive functioning skills and effective study (and life) skills. This allows us to proactively anticipate challenges rather than always reacting to them. As one of the lead trainers at Hayutin, Hunja prepares educators at Hayutin to support neurodivergent students with appropriate strategies and tools to thrive in the classroom. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Hunja: Email: Phone: T 310-829-7505, x114 Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/31407862

Ep. 185: Late Diagnosis: Why Did I Get Missed? with Dr. Monica Blied 05/14/2024

Ep. 185: Late Diagnosis: Why Did I Get Missed? with Dr. Monica Blied Hey there, welcome back to Diverse Thinking Different Learning! Today, we're diving into a topic that's often overlooked but incredibly important: late diagnoses of ADHD and autism, particularly in women, people of color, and LGBTQ individuals. It's a conversation that's long overdue, and we're so grateful to have Dr. Monica Blied joining us to shed some light on this crucial issue. As a clinical psychologist and founder of Faces of Health, Dr. Blied brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the table. In her private practice, she specializes in providing psychological assessments for adults and children who suspect they may have Autism, ADHD, or learning differences. With a keen focus on supporting adults living with chronic medical and mental illnesses, Dr. Blied has dedicated her career to helping individuals navigate the complex intersection of mental and physical health. Today, dive deep into the reasons why certain conditions like ADHD and autism are often diagnosed late, despite their significant impact on individuals' lives. From systemic biases to misconceptions and missed opportunities for support, Dr. Blied will be sharing invaluable insights and advice for anyone who suspects they may be struggling with an undiagnosed condition and what parents can look for in their children that could be signs of struggle. Show Notes: [2:13] - People are often overlooked and it seems that there are systemic biases. There are studies that show that particularly people of color are misdiagnosed. [3:42] - There are many misconceptions. Something important to remember is that most of the time, certain behaviors are not willful. [6:03] - One reason someone’s diagnosis is missed is fewer outward symptoms or struggles, especially when compared to a sibling. [9:34] - Dr. Blied shares an experience in seeing the similarities and differences in siblings and the tendency to put more focus on one child over another. [11:24] - A late diagnosis could also be due to a family normalizing and nurturing certain behaviors. [13:38] - Externalized behaviors are obvious. The kids who internalize are often missed. [15:46] - Individuals who are born female are often misdiagnosed or completely overlooked as children. [17:44] - The average age of ADHD diagnosis in women is 37. By 18 years old, 80% of women who are autistic are still undiagnosed. [20:45] - Special interests can be misleading. [23:51] - Girls and women tend to be very good at masking, until the demands are more difficult to adjust to. [25:07] - In children, ADHD and autism are diagnosed in 4 boys to every 1 girl. But in adulthood, it is a 1 to 1 ratio. It is a misconception that it is more common in boys. [28:21] - There is the belief, even among medical professionals, that ADHD isn’t a real struggle or problem. [29:12] - Dr. Blied describes what ADHD and autism might look like in a girl especially during childhood. [31:11] - There are higher rates of autism and ADHD in those with other types of medical issues and in LGBTQIA+ individuals. [33:36] - A late diagnosis leads to years of missed opportunities for support and intervention. [34:27] - Dr. Blied shares some first steps and advice if you suspect that you could need a diagnosis or are late diagnosed. About Our Guest: Dr. Monica Blied is a clinical psychologist, adjunct professor of psychology at Pepperdine, and the founder of Faces of Health in Claremont, California. In her private practice, Dr. Blied provides psychological assessments for adults and children who suspect they have Autism, ADHD, and/or learning differences. With a special interest in supporting adults who are living with chronic medical and mental illnesses, Dr. Blied has also developed expertise in the mind-body health connection. She currently serves as the Chair-Elect (and former Treasurer) of the California Psychological Association's Division of Education and Training, where she has been a member of the Executive Board for over 10 years. Since 2020, she has also served as a Medical Advisory Board member with Lupus LA, a role which allows her to continue giving back to her fellow Lupus Warriors. In 2022, Dr. Blied developed the Faces of Health app, which teaches mental health and stress management skills via brief, educational videos, all taught by women of color. In 2024, she added to her online educational suite a course on Adult ADHD and Autism, and another on Stress Management using Neuroscience. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Dr. Blied: Email: Connect with Us: Register for Our Self-Paced Mini Courses for Better Understanding and Supporting Your Child with ADHD, Dyslexia & Anxiety The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/31288872

Ep. 184: Could Pathological Demand Avoidance Clarify My Child’s Challenges? with Dr. Casey Ehrlich 05/07/2024

Ep. 184: Could Pathological Demand Avoidance Clarify My Child’s Challenges? with Dr. Casey Ehrlich Some parents may describe their child as very strong-willed. That child may show an extreme avoidance of everyday demands, expectations, and requests. But what if the behaviors are not an indication of strong will, but rather occur because a child feels overwhelmed by demands and perceives them as threats to their autonomy and self-control? Are there specific strategies that would be helpful when raising a demand-avoidant child or teen? Today, we’re going to be talking about Pathological Demand Avoidance with Dr. Casey Ehrlich. She is the CEO and founder of At Peace Parents where she specializes in teaching parents and therapists practical skills in the home or clinical setting to accommodate neuroception-driven demand avoidance and nervous system differences through creative techniques. Show Notes: [3:10] - Pathological Demand Avoidance (PDA) is considered a nervous system disability. Dr. Ehrlich explains why this is and shares alternative names for it. [5:41] - Many parents and clinicians have found that the strategies they have tried have not worked or made things worse. [7:39] - Dr. Ehrlich describes a recent situation with her son that demonstrates sudden nervous system activation in PDA. [9:33] - We need to understand the root cause of behaviors that are interfering with your ability to connect with your child. [10:57] - PDA may show up as a regression or can surround a primary need. [12:58] - PDA is often misunderstood. [15:04] - With a background as a social scientist, Dr. Ehrlich explains some of the research about PDA and why many children and teens are not correctly identified. [17:45] - Accommodations include autonomy, equality, trauma-informed play, nervous system signals of safety, communication, lowering demands, humor, novelty, and more. [21:38] - PDA is happening on a subconscious level. It isn’t about emotions. [23:37] - It can be confusing as a child gets older because they do begin using social strategies and we may not see escalation as nervous system dysregulation. [27:46] - Pausing to de-escalate is crucial. [29:24] - Is PDA only seen in people with autism? [30:42] - Connections can only be made when PDAers feel a sense of safety. [33:21] - Awareness is the first step. [35:55] - Dr. Ehrlich learned more about PDA as a mother than a clinician. [40:41] - Dr. Ehrlich hosted a podcast called where she talks about her experiences across eight episodes. She also hosts the . About Our Guest: Casey Ehrlich, Ph.D. (she/her) is a social scientist, parent coach, and educator, and the CEO and founder of At Peace Parents. Casey brings 15 years of work experience and expertise in social science methodology to help parents and therapists understand how to connect with and accommodate PDA Autistic children. She is currently working on empirical research with the University of Michigan Medical School on Pathological Demand Avoidance in children and teens. Connect with Dr. Ehrlich: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc. or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/31068838

Ep. 183: Unlocking Potential: A Dyslexia Journey with Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey 04/30/2024

Ep. 183: Unlocking Potential: A Dyslexia Journey with Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey Welcome to today's episode, where we turn the spotlight to dyslexia awareness and advocacy, featuring the remarkable journey of Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey. Rosalin's story is nothing short of inspiring as she navigates her own experience with dyslexia to become an advocate for change for dyslexic individuals across Africa and beyond. From struggling in academics to finding her passion in culinary school, Rosalin's personal journey highlights the importance of understanding and embracing neurodiversity. Through her organization, the Africa Dyslexia Organization (ADO), Rosalin is making an impact on dyslexia awareness, advocacy, and support. However, there are many barriers, including societal beliefs in African countries and lack of teacher resources. In this episode, Rosalin shares her own struggles and triumphs with dyslexia, including the pivotal moments that brought dyslexia to her own awareness and understanding. Rosalin's dedication to raising awareness and providing essential tools for educators and parents is truly inspiring and much needed in a world where dyslexia continues to be misunderstood. Show Notes: [2:35] - Rosalin always struggled in academics and knew from a young age that she was different. She explains why she has dedicated her life to dyslexia advocacy. [5:27] - Due to her struggles, Rosalin was not permitted to take exams to move forward into high school in Ghana. [7:10] - Rosalin chose to go to culinary school and this was a turning point for her. It was the first time she was in an environment where she loved to learn. [9:12] - She describes the first time a school administrator told her something positive. This turned her life around. [11:58] - As an adult, Rosalin had an assessment done and discovered her dyslexia. [13:05] - In her travels across Africa, Rosalin has found that there is little to no understanding about dyslexia. [15:07] - Rosalin has dedicated her life to spreading awareness of dyslexia in African countries. [18:16] - Rosalin’s organization is taking steps to prevent the wasting of valuable talents among dyslexic individuals. [21:12] - Inclusivity is crucial. Students with dyslexia need the same opportunities and support to thrive. [23:01] - Teacher training and resources for educators is a huge focus for the Africa Dyslexia Organization. [24:50] - Reaching out to the Ministries of Education in different locations in Africa is very difficult. Rosalin describes some of the barriers the organization faces. [26:39] - This is a global problem. There are people who are neurodivergent everywhere that need to understand the way they learn. [29:24] - Even with resources and awareness in the United States, students still fall behind and continue to face barriers to quality education and support. About Our Guest: Rosalin Abigail Kyere-Nartey Rosalin is an unwavering advocate for dyslexic individuals and the Founder and Executive Director of Africa Dyslexia Organization (ADO), non-profit organization is dedicated to raising awareness, advocacy, providing essential educational tools to teachers and parents, and offering support for individuals grappling with dyslexia and related learning disabilities. Rosalin holds an MSc in International Hospitality Management from Swiss Hotel Management School in Switzerland. She is Walt Disney Hospitality Leadership Fellow and currently a Lead Consultant at iQ Mundo and Country Rep for Swiss Education Group in Ghana, Liberia, and Sierra Leone. Her multifaceted expertise and her commitment to inclusive education position her as a beacon of hope, igniting positive change for dyslexic individuals across Africa. Connect with Rosalin: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30968708

Ep. 182: How to Support Emotionally Intense Children with Samantha Moe 04/23/2024

Ep. 182: How to Support Emotionally Intense Children with Samantha Moe Today, we're digging into the complex and often challenging world of parenting emotionally intense children. I'm thrilled to introduce our special guest, Samantha Moe, a certified parent coach and speaker who brings a wealth of knowledge and expertise to the table. Samantha's work is nothing short of amazing, providing invaluable support and guidance to parents navigating the complexities of raising emotionally intense children. In this episode, Samantha sheds light on the intricacies of parenting emotionally intense children and shares practical strategies to help parents navigate this often overwhelming journey. From understanding the underlying reasons behind behavioral dysregulation to fostering a supportive home environment, Samantha offers actionable advice, including exercises and reflection questions, that will resonate with parents facing similar challenges. So, if you're a parent seeking support and guidance in raising emotionally intense children, you won't want to miss this conversation. Get ready to gain a deeper understanding of your child's needs and discover effective strategies to support them on their journey towards emotional regulation and wellbeing. Show Notes: [2:41] - While there are a lot of resources out there to help parents and families, that doesn’t make it easy. [3:48] - Samantha shares a bit about her background and how she realized that she had not been prepared to help emotionally intense children. [5:24] - Oftentimes when parents see behavioral deregulation, they want to make it stop. But we have to understand why children are behaving this way. [6:59] - Samantha takes a look at the parent-child relationship from the parent’s side of things and the home environment. She demonstrates an exercise. [10:41] - We have mirror neurons that reflect the state another person is in. If a child is emotionally intense, we feel their stress. [12:16] - If you want to lower your child’s stress, you have to also lower the fight and flight in your own brain. [14:51] - If you can label a child’s emotion in the moment, it helps them feel seen and heard. [16:50] - There are variations in acknowledging an emotion based on the situation and the age of the child. [18:40] - Parents make mistakes, but there are some common mistakes with emotionally intense children. Samantha provides some reflection questions. [22:07] - Parents need to also practice changing their own behavior to help calm their children. [25:00] - Reflect back on your own upbringing. Were your emotions labeled and regulated? [27:10] - Emotional intensity is not exclusive to autistic children. [29:40] - Samantha describes the pillars she uses to teach and support parents. [31:41] - Parents need to feel supported. A parent’s mental health and well-being impact that of their children. About Our Guest: Certified parent coach and speaker Samantha Moe has coached parents on how to help their children calm, connect, and cooperate since 2004. She now provides continuing education, advanced training, and parent coach certification for family service professionals who support intense kids and their families. Samantha is the creator of the Mad to Glad Blueprint, a revolutionary brain-and-nervous-system-based approach to positive communication and parenting that soothes and even prevents intense kids’ most challenging behaviors. She holds a Master’s degree in Communication Disorders from the University of Minnesota and has interdisciplinary training in sensory integration, play therapy, and emotional integration. Connect with Samantha Moe: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30867423

Ep. 181: Youth Anxiety: How Parents Can Help with Dr. Elizabeth Karp 04/16/2024

Ep. 181: Youth Anxiety: How Parents Can Help with Dr. Elizabeth Karp Welcome back to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. Today, we're diving into a crucial topic that affects families worldwide: childhood anxiety. Joining us is Dr. Elizabeth Karp, a licensed clinical child psychologist and adjunct lecturer at Stanford University School of Medicine. With her expertise in evidence-based interventions for ADHD, anxiety, and autism spectrum disorder, Dr. Karp provides invaluable insights into supporting children and families facing these challenges. In this episode, we're building on our previous discussions about childhood anxiety, delving deeper into its prevalence and impact. Dr. Karp highlights the importance of recognizing signs of anxiety in children, such as changes in behavior and social withdrawal. We'll explore how anxiety affects not only the child but also the entire family dynamic. Dr. Karp shares practical strategies for parents, including the SPACE program, which empowers families to navigate anxiety together. From understanding the role of parental involvement to implementing supportive techniques, this conversation offers valuable guidance for parents and families who want to help their children and might not know where to begin. Show Notes: [2:47] - Anxiety is incredibly common but is often not treated. [3:31] - How is your child’s suspected anxiety getting in the way of them living the life they want to live? [4:37] - Is this a change for them? Are they holding back in areas they used to be engaged with? [5:18] - How is their anxiety affecting the entire family? [7:31] - The answers to these questions can guide a parent to understand that their child’s anxiety needs more attention than general worry. [9:47] - It is recommended to have an initial consultation with a provider or begin with a pediatrician who can make a referral. [13:41] - There are so many things that anxiety impacts. Parents are experts on their child, but a psychologist can help as an expert on anxiety. [15:25] - Unfortunately, there are long wait lists for mental health support. [16:55] - Think about ways a child can participate in mastery experiences. Dr. Karp explains what this is and how it supports them. [18:57] - Seeing themselves improving a skill over time helps build confidence and resilience. [20:20] - SPACE is Supportive Parenting for Anxious Childhood Emotions and Dr. Karp describes how this program can help parents learn how to help their child. [22:56] - Dr. Karp demonstrates one of the strategies used in the SPACE Program called supportive statements. [26:08] - The strategies in SPACE are very “portable.” [28:08] - Parental involvement is key in a child’s treatment of anxiety. [30:58] - It is so powerful for children to hear how you, as an adult, manage your own anxiety. About Our Guest: Dr. Elizabeth Karp is a licensed clinical child psychologist and an adjunct lecturer at Stanford University in the school of medicine. She provides evidence-based interventions, including cognitive behavioral therapy, for children and families with concerns related to ADHD, anxiety, and autism spectrum disorder. She has a particular expertise in working with parents to support their children with these areas of concern. Connect with Dr. Elizabeth Karp: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30797938

Ep. 180: 6 Fundamental Habits for Better Sleep with Dr. Funke Afolabi-Brown 04/09/2024

Ep. 180: 6 Fundamental Habits for Better Sleep with Dr. Funke Afolabi-Brown Welcome back to another discussion about sleep! We've previously delved into why sleep is crucial for our well-being, and today, we're taking it a step further. In this episode, we'll explore practical strategies that you can implement at home to ensure that not only our children are getting good quality sleep, but the whole family. Joining me is Dr. Afolabi-Brown, a triple board-certified sleep medicine physician and pediatric pulmonologist, who will guide us through the science of sleep and offer invaluable tips to improve sleep quality for neurodivergent children and their families. To help families establish healthy sleep habits, Dr. Afolabi-Brown introduces the CREATE acronym, outlining six fundamental strategies for good sleep hygiene: Consistency, Routines, Environment, Assigned bed for sleep, Technology management, and Elimination of disruptions. You will also hear real-life success stories of families who have implemented these strategies and witnessed remarkable improvements in sleep quality. Whether you're a parent, caregiver, or simply interested in optimizing sleep for yourself or loved ones, this episode is a valuable resource to transform your sleep habits and promote overall well-being. Show Notes: [3:40] - Dr. Afolabi-Brown explains the amount of sleep that is recommended by age group. [5:08] - It’s not enough to consider the quantity of sleep. There’s a lot that could impact sleep quality. [8:03] - Neurodivergent children may exhibit daytime sleepiness. Dr. Afolabi-Brown describes some of the things you may notice. [10:31] - Insufficient and poor quality of sleep affects our physical health, our brain health, and could cause social-emotional issues. [12:06] - Sleep is healing and restorative. [13:18] - We can change our relationship with sleep by understanding its importance. [15:10] - CREATE is an acronym for the six fundamental habits for good sleep hygiene. [15:44] - C: Consistency [16:33] - R: Routines [17:10] - E: Environment [17:34] - A: Assigned bed for sleep [18:08] - T: Technology [18:23] - E: Eliminate [20:18] - Choose small things to change first and then add more as you get used to them. [22:38] - Neurodivergent children need even more structure than neurotypical children especially when it comes to sleep routines. [26:28] - Dr. Afolabi-Brown provides some strategies for calming a busy brain at night. [30:23] - Dr. Afolabi-Brown shares the story of a successful sleep intervention that changed the sleep quality of an entire family. About Our Guest: Dr. Funke Afolabi-Brown is a triple board-certified sleep medicine physician and pediatric pulmonologist. She founded RestfulSleepMD, where she helps high-achieving professionals and their children change their relationship with sleep so they can move from being drained and exhausted to thriving in their families, careers, and relationships. She achieves this through clinical practice (The Restful Sleep Place), coaching, speaking, and organization consultation. She is a best-selling author and has been featured on various media outlets, including ABC. She obtained her sleep medicine training at the University of Pennsylvania and is a Fellow of the American Academy of Sleep Medicine. Connect with Dr. Funke Afolabi-Brown: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30747748

Ep. 179: How to Empower Black Neurodivergent Learners with Jason B. Allen 04/02/2024

Ep. 179: How to Empower Black Neurodivergent Learners with Jason B. Allen Welcome to today's episode where we are tackling the important topic of empowering black neurodivergent learners and connecting with their community. Our guest, Jason B. Allen, National Director of Partnerships for the National Parents Union, brings over 19 years of experience in education to the table. Through his work, Jason advocates for inclusive and supportive environments that uplift students, families, and communities. In our conversation, Jason sheds light on the stigma surrounding learning disabilities and shares his personal journey as both an educator and a student with exceptionalities. He emphasizes the importance of amplifying voices and fostering parent and family engagement in education. Jason highlights the need for dedicated educators who recognize issues and work towards practical solutions. We discuss the significance of community engagement and the role it plays in shaping school culture. Jason emphasizes the need for intentional partnerships and resources to support educators and empower students. Through his work with the National Parents Union, Jason advocates for informed decision-making and inclusive educational practices. Join us as we explore actionable strategies to create inclusive learning environments and empower black neurodivergent learners. From promoting family engagement to fostering community partnerships, this episode provides valuable insights to drive positive change in education. Show Notes: [2:26] - There is a stigma associated with learning disabilities. [3:31] - Jason describes his own experience as an educator and having his own exceptionalities as a student. [5:37] - Just because we don’t acknowledge something, doesn’t mean it doesn’t exist. We need to use our voices. [7:20] - Parent and family engagement is crucial. Jason shares how even at pre-planning, he was able to connect with families and better understand them. [9:29] - It takes dedicated educators to see the issues and present solutions. [10:50] - Many schools and school districts send surveys and gather reports and feedback from families. But where does that data go? [12:01] - If we are not grounded in family and community engagement standards, then we will continue to believe that the social and emotional development of children does not impact academic outcomes. [13:19] - Learning does not stop or end at school. It is ongoing. [15:31] - School culture needs to change. When black students enter a school, what do they see and is it reflected in the curriculum? [17:40] - Make the data real. [19:22] - How are we being intentional about making sure that students are present and know they belong? [20:31] - Education is power. [21:37] - Get connected with the people in the community who are doing the work. Partnership is key. [23:20] - It is challenging, but it's not impossible. [24:39] - When our teachers are not well, we have to be realistic about how impactful they are. [27:04] - We can’t ask educators to do more if they don’t have the resources in order to do the thing we’re asking them to do. [30:52] - Jason is the National Director of Partnerships for the National Parents Union. [32:08] - In many communities, parents don’t have the information in order to make decisions for their children. [35:05] - A lot of times, we bring our beliefs into what we do, but we need to be intentional and inclusive. [37:10] - We cannot be gatekeepers that prevent black students from the best education they can receive. [38:20] - Jason explains how to get connected with the National Parents Union and the free resources they offer. About Our Guest: Jason B. Allen is the National Director of Partnerships for the National Parents Union. His work resides in the Organizing and Partnership Department where his focus is on elevating partnerships, programs and campaigns amplifying parent voices. He has worked in education for over 19 years as a teacher, administrator and leader serving students, families and communities. As a long time storyteller, Jason shares his experiences through his company, educational entities, llc and helps others develop their stories through digital storytelling including podcasting, blogging, advocacy and other public speaking platforms. His life work is centered on his family’s foundation, Lillie’s Foundation, supporting grandparents and seniors raising school aged children. He is a longtime advocate for male engagement helping found Black Males with Initiative in 2001 and continuing this work throughout his professional career. His first book, Suits, Swagg and Success shares his experiences, strategies and solutions to engaging Black males. Connect with Jason: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30623753

Ep. 178: Key Skills Kids Need to Thrive in Middle School and Beyond with Phyllis L. Fagell, LCPC 03/26/2024

Ep. 178: Key Skills Kids Need to Thrive in Middle School and Beyond with Phyllis L. Fagell, LCPC Welcome to a crucial conversation that strikes a chord with every parent of a middle schooler (myself included!), and even more so for those navigating the unique challenges of children who think and learn differently. Today, we're joined by the amazing Phyllis Fagell, whose focus and expertise are on guiding children through the tumultuous middle school years. Middle school isn't just a phase to endure; it's a pivotal time that sets the stage for future success. Phyllis shares invaluable insights into why middle school matters and how parents can empower their children not just to survive but to thrive during this critical period. From tackling homework struggles and managing distractions to understanding the complexities of social dynamics, this discussion with Phyllis in addition to her books, supports parents in setting their middle schooler up for success. So, whether you're a seasoned parent seeking new strategies or braving the middle school journey for the first time, this episode will help transform the way you navigate this transformative time with your child. Show Notes: [3:13] - Why does middle school matter? Phyllis discusses why this topic was important for her to write about in her books. [4:29] - Rather than looking to help kids survive this tumultuous time, we need to seek out ways to help them thrive. [5:53] - It is much harder to teach certain skills after middle school when the stakes are higher. [7:26] - One concern that parents have is when middle school students wait till the last minute to work on something they need to do. This is not willful. [8:58] - What could it look like to support a middle schooler with organizing their homework? [10:38] - Phyllis shares some research on distractions and anxiety created by phones and devices during homework time. [12:14] - Another important consideration is the difference between a teacher’s role and a parent’s role. [14:39] - Creating balance and reasonable expectations is so important. [15:40] - Phyllis describes some of the misconceptions kids in this age range have about themselves. [17:36] - Check in with the school if something is standing out that is getting in your child’s way when it comes to homework. [18:36] - There are two main ways that we do kids a disservice. [21:09] - Listen carefully to why a child wants to quit something. [22:59] - Why are they struggling? The answer to this question is important. [24:37] - Feeling connected socially is crucial, but friendships can be hard to navigate during these years. [28:31] - The lessons learned and experiences during these years are not because there’s something wrong with the child. [31:20] - Phyllis’s book is a great guide for parents to help kids during these tough years. About Our Guest: Phyllis L. Fagell is a licensed mental health therapist and certified school counselor in Maryland. She's the author of and . Phyllis also is a frequent contributor to The Washington Post and other national publications, including CNN and U.S. News & World Report, and her ideas have been shared in outlets including The New York Times, The Atlantic, The New Yorker, The Chicago Tribune, and NPR. Phyllis lives in Bethesda, Maryland with her husband and three children. Connect with Phyllis: Links and Related Resources: Congruence App (free trial): Congruence is a self-coaching tool to help teens thrive in academics, sports, and social situations. Email and mention Diverse Thinking Different Learning in the subject line for access. Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30547983

Ep. 177: How Understanding the Adolescent Brain Helps Us Better Support Teens 03/19/2024

Ep. 177: How Understanding the Adolescent Brain Helps Us Better Support Teens Adolescence is a pivotal time in a young person’s life. The adolescent brain, while it has developed in size, is not done growing and changing. In this episode, I explore the complexities of neurodiversity between biology and experience in shaping the developmental journey of neurodivergent youth. It's time to challenge conventional narratives surrounding developmental conditions and embrace a more inclusive approach rooted in developmental diversity. Throughout this episode, we'll uncover strategies to empower young people who learn and think differently, shedding light on the unique challenges and vulnerabilities they face during adolescence. We can support teens through these years of big emotions, impulsiveness, and vulnerability on top of the increasing academic and societal pressures they face as they navigate their development into adulthood. Show Notes: [1:40] - The adolescent brain is not the same as an adult brain. [3:35] - What is pruning and why is it an important component of brain development? [4:43] - Many parents struggle to understand the emotions and impulsiveness of their teenagers. [6:05] - The developmental process is not uniform. [7:09] - Adolescence is also a time of vulnerabilities, particularly for neurodivergent youth. [8:06] - Due to brain development, teens will also respond to stress differently from adults. [9:11] - There are things that can help support brain development like exercise and prioritizing sleep. [11:02] - Everyone’s brain works in different ways. Teens need to understand this as their own brain is developing. [12:27] - Continued support, particularly in areas such as executive functioning, is essential as teens transition into adulthood. Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30433543

Ep. 176: Does Your Child Need an Academic Success Playbook? with Jacqueline Olivier 03/12/2024

Ep. 176: Does Your Child Need an Academic Success Playbook? with Jacqueline Olivier Many families struggle knowing what to do when their child or teen suddenly starts failing school and academics or lacks motivation to learn. These challenges can be difficult to navigate as a parent, especially for a parent of a neurodivergent child. Today’s guest has an incredible resource that turns this challenge into an opportunity for parents and families. Dr. Jacqueline Olivier is the founder of Blue Marble Learning Center and she has created an Academic Success Playbook. This isn’t a one-size-fits-all guide. These are personalized and customized guides based on the learning needs of the student and what type of support the parents and families need. Not only that, but these playbooks are interactive and include referrals and even more resources to give parents the information and support they need to help their children thrive. In today’s episode, Jacqueline explains how the playbook works, what she takes into account when customizing them for students, and how impactful they have been for neurodivergent children and their families. Show Notes: [2:34] - Jacqueline explains what she does in her role at Blue Marble Learning Center. [3:57] - We see the best outcomes when a team of people works together to help the student. [5:06] - The most impactful part of Jacqueline’s work is helping students understand how they learn. [7:15] - Parents don’t have a guide for parenting and helping their children. And for neurodivergent children, they have to help them navigate a world that was not built for them. [8:49] - Many times, parents see the results of an evaluation and they think the diagnosis is the golden ticket. Jacqueline explains this gap. [11:20] - What does a success playbook look like? Jacqueline designs these for parents after a diagnosis. It is an individualized and interactive document. [13:55] - Jacqueline describes a scenario with a student who benefited by having a playbook. [17:50] - Every parent’s situation is different. Some will be able to dive into understanding their diagnosis and some will not be able to. The playbook is customized per family. [22:35] - The playbook also gives parents and families an awareness and understanding of what to expect in the school environment and personalized strategies. [26:06] - Jacqueline creates a personalized playbook and provides more resources and referrals for parents and families. [31:02] - When Jacqueline began offering academic playbooks, she learned just how needed this resource is. About Our Guest: Dr. Jacqueline Olivier is the founder of Blue Marble Learning Center. She has an extensive background in educational therapy, working with neurodivergent students, curriculum design, teaching, consulting, instructional leadership, and senior administration in independent and start-up schools. Jacqueline’s areas of expertise include working with children and teens who have been diagnosed with dyslexia, ADHD, Asperger’s, language-based learning disabilities, test-taking anxiety, academic anxiety, dyscalculia, processing disorders, and executive functioning challenges. She provides academic support in mathematics, writing, entrance exams (ISEE, SAT), college essays, and other subjects. Connect with Jacqueline Olivier: Email Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30315808

Ep. 175: How to Support Students Who Struggle with Writing with Shanna Trombetta 03/05/2024

Ep. 175: How to Support Students Who Struggle with Writing with Shanna Trombetta When it comes to writing, there is so much happening behind the scenes. It is so much more than sitting down, grabbing a pencil, and putting words on paper. In today's episode, we'll explore the challenges students face when it comes to writing. From motor skills to executive functioning, today’s guest explains the complexities of the writing process. Shanna Trombetta is an Educational Therapist and she joins the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast to help us better understand not only the writing process and the challenges students face, but also ways we can support struggling students at home and in the classroom. She shares practical strategies and insights to empower parents and educators in guiding children through the whirlwind of creativity, skill, and determination that is writing. Show Notes: [3:16] - A lot of learners who come into Shanna’s practice struggle with writing. [4:24] - Shanna describes some of the things that are commonly a struggle when it comes to writing. There’s so much happening at one time. [5:39] - It is common for students to have a lot of great ideas, but the mechanics of writing hold them up, and they wind up not writing anything. [7:32] - One way to support kids with writing is by providing them with a structure. [9:37] - People who don’t struggle with executive functioning can typically create their own structure. But many kids need to be shown how to organize their information. [11:24] - When she works with students, Shanna helps them develop and use tools. [13:08] - What is background knowledge and why is it important for writing? [15:01] - Shanna describes writing around themes to help with structure. [16:57] - Chunking is a great strategy that helps students take one step at a time. [19:01] - Keeping a checklist as they write is another tool that can alleviate the stress of keeping track of things in their mind. [21:00] - Assessment data is really helpful for Shanna so she knows to target some of the spelling patterns that are a challenge for a student. [23:16] - So often students know what they want to write about. Strategies to get the information out are not “cheating.” [26:22] - Writing is an area where many students experience stress. Make it fun. [28:30] - While struggling, it is hard to remain motivated. Shanna shares some ways to keep students positive while they’re learning. About Our Guest: Shanna Trombetta is an Educational Therapist affiliated with the Association of Educational Therapists, dedicated to serving the community of Los Angeles. Shanna holds a Master's in Educational Psychology and a B.A. in Special Education/Psychology from Marist College. Additionally, she holds an Educational Therapy Certification from UC Riverside, a CLEAR credential from the California Commission of Teacher Credentialing (grades K-6), and CLAD certification. She serves on the International Dyslexia Association Chapter of Los Angeles Board and is a Child Nexus member. With a rich background spanning over two decades, Shanna has excelled as a classroom teacher, literacy coach, private homeschool educator, and currently, as an Educational Therapist, offering a depth of expertise in her private practice. Specializing in supporting neurodiverse children, addressing dyslexia, and navigating language-based disabilities, Shanna is unwavering in her dedication to creating inclusive and effective learning environments. In her free time, Shanna treasures moments spent with her two daughters, husband, and Australian labradoodle. A passionate book enthusiast, she often finds solace at the beach with a captivating read. Connect with Our Guest: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30145383

Ep. 174: How to Empower Different Thinkers with Dr. Yael Rothman and Dr. Katia Fredriksen 02/27/2024

Ep. 174: How to Empower Different Thinkers with Dr. Yael Rothman and Dr. Katia Fredriksen Welcome back to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast where we are diving into a topic that is especially important for families raising children and teens who learn and think differently. Today's episode is particularly special as we explore empowering children and teens with ADHD and other learning differences by helping them understand their brains and embrace their unique gifts. I am joined by Drs. Fredriksen and Rothman, pediatric neuropsychologists from Maryland, who bring a wealth of knowledge and insights into this often misunderstood area. They share their journey of writing their recent book , a resource designed specifically for elementary-aged children and their families. We learn about the motivation behind creating this resource and the importance of not keeping diagnoses a secret from children but rather empowering them with knowledge about their developing brains. Throughout our conversation, we discuss the misconceptions surrounding ADHD and other learning differences, and the need to focus on strengths and not limitations. Drs. Fredriksen and Rothman share the struggles that children face in a world not built for different thinkers and offer some strategies for families to celebrate differences. Show Notes: [1:50] - The book is unique as it is written for elementary-aged children. They didn’t have a resource for families, so they made it themselves. [4:26] - Adults tend to underestimate children and how much they realize that they learn differently. Don’t keep their diagnosis a secret. [6:51] - We need to take the more effective path of demonstrating how a learning difference can be a gift. [8:34] - There are a lot of misconceptions around diagnoses. [10:28] - Attention levels wax and wane for the average neurotypical person, but there is a difference between those experiences and those who have ADHD. [12:30] - Standardized tests and questionnaires are sometimes frowned upon, but they have a helpful purpose. [14:10] - Kids can and should learn that their brains are still developing and may develop differently than their peers. [17:20] - The world was not built for different thinkers. [22:51] - Research shows that children with ADHD receive more negative feedback than their peers. [24:55] - is intended to be a resource for families to talk to their child about a diagnosis. Drs. Rothman and Fredriksen suggest ways to use it. [27:21] - Children can read and listen about the characters in the book who are experiencing ADHD like they are. [30:06] - Celebrating differences is key. [31:31] - The work that neuropsychologists do is important, but it isn’t always accessible to everyone. About Our Guests: Drs. Fredriksen and Rothman are both pediatric neuropsychologists in Maryland who specialize in comprehensive evaluations for children, adolescents, and young adults with a wide range of conditions that impact learning, behavior, and/or socioemotional functioning, providing families with a road map to support their children. They recently published their first book, , and share an Instagram account (@neuropsychmomdocs). Dr. Fredriksen trained at Princeton University and the University of Massachusetts Boston. She lives with her family in Arlington, Virginia. Dr. Rothman trained at the University of Michigan and Ferkauf Graduate School of Psychology. She lives with her family in Washington, D.C. Connect with Our Guests: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30045658

Ep. 173: Why Treating Symptoms Isn’t Enough for Child Wellbeing with Hokehe Eko, MD MPH FAAP 02/20/2024

Ep. 173: Why Treating Symptoms Isn’t Enough for Child Wellbeing with Hokehe Eko, MD MPH FAAP Did you know that most children with ADHD are given medication, offered some counseling, and nothing else? Today's episode is a game-changer, especially for parents navigating the challenges of ADHD because today’s guest wants to change this. Dr. Hokehe Eko joins us to discuss her unique approach, one that focuses on empowering children with ADHD without solely relying on medication. Dr. Eko believes it's time to shift our focus from merely treating symptoms to understanding the whole child. In our conversation, Dr. Eko shares her insights into how trauma and lifestyle factors impact a child's behavior and cognitive development. Instead of rushing to medication, Dr. Eko advocates for lifestyle and environmental changes that support a child's overall well-being. From nutrition to hydration, she discusses practical steps parents can take to empower their children and create a supportive environment for their growth. You may be surprised by the impact of small lifestyle changes and how they can positively influence a child's behavior and family dynamics. While there’s no “quick fix,” these small incremental changes not only benefit ADHD symptoms but the well-being of the whole family. Show Notes: [2:21] - Dr. Eko is a pediatrician and a big advocate for empowering our brains. She has a different approach to looking at the whole child. [3:55] - During some training, Dr. Eko had the realization of how things could change. She shares the story of what inspired her approach. [5:55] - Trauma makes changes in the way our brains work and our behavior. [8:30] - You can never just assess symptoms. [10:50] - Before jumping to medication, Dr. Eko looks at simple lifestyle and environmental changes. [13:03] - If we feed the brain what it needs and what it craves, we are healthier overall. [14:34] - Behaviors are difficult and there isn’t necessarily a “quick fix.” However, lifestyle changes could benefit the overall health of the child more than medication. [17:18] - Dr. Eko discusses the impact of nutrition on behavior. [20:29] - If your child is healthier, the whole family is better overall. [22:10] - Change one thing at a time. All the small changes build up. [23:26] - Dr. Eko shares some suggestions on how to increase the amount of water you and your family drink that also gets the child on board. [26:24] - It is a process. Take it one day at a time and do things as a family. [28:36] - Dr. Eko emphasizes the importance of executive functioning skills and what parents can do to support their children. [31:00] - Have a conversation with your child and explain what is going on. They need to understand as they form their identity. [32:36] - Dr. Eko offers a support group and community and the information can be found on her website. She also shares the details of her recent book. About Our Guest: Dr. Hokehe Eko is a Mom, Board Certified Pediatrician, TedX Speaker, and CEO of Glow Pediatrics PLLC. She partners with parents of children with ADHD/Autism to address the root causes of their children's behaviors so they GLOW with health from the inside out. She is also CEO of Kits of Hope, a 501 (3) organization, sharing love, hope, and dignity with children in foster care. Connect with Dr. Hokehe Eko: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/30010488

Ep. 172: How to Talk to Kids About Mistakes and Failure with Dr. Robyn Silverman 02/13/2024

Ep. 172: How to Talk to Kids About Mistakes and Failure with Dr. Robyn Silverman In this episode, we explore how children and teens who learn and think differently perceive mistakes and failure. Dr. Robyn Silverman, AKA the “Conversation Doc,” renowned child and teen development specialist and best-selling author, guides us through the complexities of navigating tough conversations about failure with young people. Drawing from her book, How to Talk to Kids About Anything, Dr. Robyn underscores the importance of reframing failure as an opportunity for growth and learning. In a society driven by achievement, children with learning differences often struggle with fears of failure and making mistakes. Dr. Robyn emphasizes the need for parents and educators to foster an environment where children feel safe to take risks and embrace imperfection. From reframing academic setbacks to celebrating incremental progress, she offers practical strategies for instilling a growth mindset in children and teens. Throughout the episode, Dr. Robyn encourages parents to reflect on their own reactions to failure and perfection. Mistakes are an inevitable part of the learning process and that goes for parents, too. By de-emphasizing outcomes and focusing on the journey of growth, parents can empower their children to develop resilience and self-confidence. Show Notes: [2:50] - In her book, Dr. Robyn walks families through having tough conversations with kids and teens. [4:18] - Kids with learning differences often have worries about messing up. We need to have conversations about failure and mistakes. [5:30] - The only way we grow and learn is if we take risks and try even if we fail. [6:51] - We are in an achievement-focused culture and it makes it hard for kids to understand that mistakes are actually opportunities. [9:27] - When it comes to academics, seeing failure doesn’t feel like an opportunity. [10:49] - It is crucial for kids to come to an understanding that their performance does not reflect who they are. [13:47] - A great example of mistakes as opportunities is learning how to play a musical instrument. [15:45] - Kids of certain ages rely on very concrete thinking. Take photos of accomplishments and even the mistakes for them to see how they have improved. [17:10] - The only person we can compare yourself to is yourself and this is challenging for kids and teens. [19:22] - Parents need to reflect on how they react to “perfect” and “imperfect” performance and behavior. [21:46] - Parents are also going to make a ton of mistakes and that’s okay. [23:27] - See the value, even if the achievement hasn’t been made. [24:45] - We don’t want to convey the feeling that negative consequences are the result of failure. This leads to kids not trying. [27:46] - Show kids stories of amazing and successful people who have experienced failure before their fame. [29:13] - Deemphasize the outcome and focus on the process. [31:24] - What is your definition of bringing out the best in your child? It might need to be reframed. About Our Guest: Known as the "Conversation Doc," Dr. Robyn Silverman is a child and teen development specialist and author of the bestselling book, How to Talk to Kids About Anything, as well as the host of the popular podcast of the same name. She is a cofounder of the Powerful Words Character System, which gives educators the talking points they need to help children become kind, responsible citizens of the world. Dr. Robyn has appeared on The Today Show, Good Morning America, CBS Early Show and Nightline and has been quoted in the New York Times, Washington Post, Chicago Tribune, CNN.com, and many other publications. She lives with her husband, two kids and a fuzzy rescue dog who loves sunning himself on their front steps, even in the summer heat of North Carolina. Find out all about the book at DrRobynSilverman.com. Connect with Dr. Robyn Silverman: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29818638

Ep. 171: Is it Shyness or Social Anxiety? with Dr. Fran Walfish 02/06/2024

Ep. 171: Is it Shyness or Social Anxiety? with Dr. Fran Walfish Would you describe your child as passive, quiet around others, uncomfortable in social situations, a child that avoids eye contact, and maybe hesitates to try new things? Does your child excessively rehearse what they want to say or how they want to behave? Some parents may wonder if this is shyness or something more. Is it social anxiety? Today, we’re digging into the topic of both. Is it shyness or social anxiety and how do you know? And what can we do to help? Dr. Fran Walfish is an absolute expert in this field and in our conversation today, she not only offers some clarification on the differences between shyness and social anxiety, but also shares things we can do to support these children better and when to seek professional help and guidance. She is a wealth of knowledge and I am thrilled for you to hear our conversation. Show Notes: [3:21] - First, shyness is an innate trait. It’s something human beings are born with. A child comes into the world already predisposed with a particular temperament. [4:42] - Shyness can sometimes look like anxiety. There are so many ingredients that shape a person’s personality and behavior. [6:36] - The child should be the one to dictate the comfort level, rather than it being driven by the parent's fear of embarrassment or shame due to the child's shyness. [8:31] - Certain things can lead to social anxiety. [10:20] - Not all shy people have social anxiety. [12:11] - Well-meaning parents may feel embarrassed or exceedingly worried about a child’s shyness. [14:37] - Selective mutism is a confusing presentation of social anxiety. [16:58] - It is crucial for parents not to pressure kids. It could lead to them withholding even more. [19:12] - The parent who is trying to discern the difference between social anxiety and shyness needs to be non-judgmental. [21:35] - Create some reasonable separation and assure your child that you are there. [23:01] - Just like adults, children want to be seen, acknowledged, validated and accepted - flaws and all. [24:40] - What can parents and teachers do to help children with social anxiety? Dr. Walfish shares some tips. [26:25] - Expect some successes and failures. [31:21] - If parents see their child crying and sobbing in most social situations, it is time to search for a referral. About Our Guest: Dr. Fran Walfish is a leading child, couples, family, relationship, and sex psychotherapist and author in Beverly Hills, CA who treats celebrity couples, Hollywood’s elite, and LA’s poshest residents. In addition to her thriving private practice, Dr. Walfish was on clinical staff in the Department of Child Psychiatry at Cedars-Sinai Medical Center for 15 years. She was a Beverly Hills school psychologist and served a 4 year-term as Chair of the Board of The Early Childhood Parenting Center founded at Cedars-Sinai, Los Angeles. Dr. Fran was the host and co-star on WE tv series, Sex Box. Dr. Walfish also appeared as an on-camera expert psychotherapist in 15 episodes on The Robert Irvine Show, CW/Tribune Networks. Dr. Walfish is a featured expert in Parents magazine “Ask The Experts'', and formerly in her weekly Q & A in The Beverly Hills Courier. She is an expert contributor to several news outlets and publications. Dr. Fran’s book, The Self-Aware Parent: Resolving Conflict and Building A Better Bond with Your Child, is represented by William Morris Endeavor Entertainment and published by Palgrave Macmillan/St. Martin’s Press. Simon & Schuster published her original chapter Why Empathy Matters in their all-star psychologists anthology book Tough Love in 2018. Dr. Walfish has been quoted in NY Bestselling books authored by Arianna Huffington, Randi Zuckerberg, and Josh Shipp. Connect with Dr. Fran Walfish: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29818553

Ep. 170: Understanding Selective Mutism with Dr. Danielle Cornacchio 01/30/2024

Ep. 170: Understanding Selective Mutism with Dr. Danielle Cornacchio If your child is afraid to speak around certain people, like adults or strangers, or in certain situations, like at school, they may be struggling with selective mutism. Selective mutism is an anxiety disorder characterized by an inability to speak in certain settings and to certain people. It is commonly misunderstood as shyness or a child could even be misdiagnosed as having Autism Spectrum Disorder or Oppositional Defiance Disorder. But what exactly is selective mutism and how can we tell the difference? Today’s guest helps demystify selective mutism and offers a lot of insight into ways we can help children thrive. Dr. Danielle Cornacchio is the newest member of ! She is a clinical child psychologist specializing in evidence-based treatments for childhood anxiety, OCD, and disruptive behavior disorders. Dr. Cornacchio has particular expertise in behavioral treatment for childhood selective mutism. In this episode, Dr. Cornacchio explains what selective mutism is, but perhaps more importantly, she explains what it is not. She takes the time to describe what treatment for selective mutism might look like and emphasizes the importance of parent education and participation. Listen to learn more about this often misunderstood condition. Show Notes: [2:27] - Selective mutism is classified as an anxiety disorder. It is a consistent failure to speak in certain situations despite speaking fine in others. [4:03] - Selective mutism is not Autism Spectrum Disorder or Oppositional Defiance Disorder. It is often misunderstood or misdiagnosed. [7:13] - Kids with selective mutism will typically speak around their parents and siblings at home but won’t speak at school. [11:24] - Information and research on treatment for selective mutism is very new but Cognitive Behavioral Therapy is the most beneficial. [14:04] - Dr. Cornacchio shares some of the ways selective mutism shows up including learning situations where talking is not necessary and something called contamination. [17:58] - Therapy sessions once a week are not enough if parents and family members are not also working with a child at home. [21:14] - It’s human nature to want to protect your children and reduce their stress, but to overcome challenges, children need to step out of their comfort zones. [24:13] - Dr. Cornacchio demonstrates the steps in early therapy sessions with children with selective mutism including behavior descriptions and labeled praise. [26:34] - The type of question that we ask a child who is ready to speak really matters. [28:11] - Giving children ample time to answer a question can be uncomfortable for parents. [29:29] - After 5 seconds of wait time, if the child does not answer, Dr. Cornacchio demonstrates how to rephrase the question and try something different. [31:47] - But what happens if the child still does not answer a question after different strategies? [33:29] - Teachers do not have the luxury of trying questions multiple times and waiting for answers. But there is a Plan B for teachers to not ever give up on a question. [37:37] - It is important to connect with a provider, but it is challenging to find one that treats selective mutism. About Our Guest: Dr. Cornacchio completed her PhD in Clinical Science in Child and Adolescent Psychology at Florida International University and her predoctoral internship training at the UCLA Semel Institute. She currently serves as a clinical instructor at the UCLA Psychology Department. Dr. Cornacchio founded and currently directs The WaveMind Clinic in Los Angeles, a clinic dedicated to providing specialized care to children and families with a variety of mental health needs, including selective mutism, OCD, and disruptive behavior disorders. She directs a training program for psychology students and postdoctoral trainees learning Parent Child Interaction Therapy (PCIT) and treatment for childhood selective mutism. Dr. Cornacchio leads training for educators and professionals interested in learning more about how to treat selective mutism. Dr. Cornacchio’s research interests focus on innovative treatment formats for difficult-to-treat child anxiety. She conducted the first randomized controlled trial of an intensive group treatment program for children with selective mutism and is currently co-authoring a manual that’s in press on the delivery of intensive treatment for children with selective mutism. Connect with Dr. Danielle Cornacchio: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29650868

Ep. 169: The Science of Exercise and the Brain with Dr. John Ratey 01/23/2024

Ep. 169: The Science of Exercise and the Brain with Dr. John Ratey We know that exercise does have a positive impact on the brain. We know that exercise can optimize brain function and prevent cognitive decline in adults. But what can it do for children and adolescents that learn and think differently? Today’s guest is Dr. John Ratey, an internationally recognized expert in neuropsychiatry. Dr. Ratey became interested in the science of exercise and the brain early on in his career and has seen first-hand the benefits not only to one’s body, but also behavior, executive functioning skills, and even attention. In today’s episode, Dr. Ratey digs in and explains how exercise and being physically active can change more than your physical health. Show Notes: [2:38] - Dr. Ratey became interested in the impact of exercise on the brain as an athlete in medical school and seeing studies comparing exercise and antidepressants. [4:49] - Dr. Ratey also became interested in ADHD, specifically how it impacts adults. [6:31] - Consistent exercise can be a type of treatment for ADHD symptoms. [7:45] - Not only do our bodies need exercise, but our brains do as well. [8:52] - The beauty of exercise is the accessibility. [11:12] - When we move, we activate the same nerve cells that we use to think. [13:12] - Movement and exercise improve attention as well as executive functioning skills. [15:04] - Dr. Ratey explains how he has visited schools over the years and has seen the results of exercise on student behavior. [17:29] - Dr. Ratey lists the endorphins and hormones that are increased as a result of exercise. [20:42] - The more brain cells you activate, the more BDNF you have. It is like brain fertilizer. [23:06] - Dr. Ratey calls this “Miracle-Gro for your brain.” [25:23] - Exercise also has an impact on the cerebellum which is discussed at length in the book, ADHD 2.0. [29:29] - “Sitting is the new smoking.” The more sedentary someone is, the less healthy they are. [30:44] - The experience of COVID-19 changed our society’s drive to exercise and move their bodies. [31:39] - To optimize brain function and prevent cognitive decline, exercise is so important. About Our Guest: John J. Ratey, MD, is an Associate Clinical Professor of Psychiatry at Harvard Medical School and an internationally recognized expert in Neuropsychiatry. He has published over 60 peer-reviewed articles, and 12 books published in 20 languages, including the groundbreaking ADD-ADHD “Driven to Distraction” series with Ned Hallowell, MD. Their latest release, ADHD 2.0 (2021) explores new science and strategies. With the publication of his bestseller, "Spark-The Revolutionary New Science of Exercise and the Brain," Dr. Ratey established himself as one of the world's foremost authorities on the brain-fitness connection in areas such as ADHD, Autism, Aging, and Cognition. Recognized by his peers as one of the Best Doctors in America since 1997, Dr. Ratey was recently honored by the Massachusetts Psychiatric Society as "Outstanding Psychiatrist of the Year" for advancing the field. Dr. Ratey and his work are frequently profiled in the media, where he’s been featured on ABC, CBS, NBC, PBS and NPR, as well as in The New York Times, Newsweek, The Washington Post, US News and World Report, Men’s Health, and other national publications. Dr. Ratey maintains an active practice in Cambridge, MA and Los Angeles, CA. Connect with Dr. Ratey: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29601598

Ep. 168: 5 Tips for Supporting Neurodivergent Youth 01/16/2024

Ep. 167: From Surviving to Thriving: A Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs and Well-Being with Leslie Forde 01/09/2024

Ep. 167: From Surviving to Thriving: A Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs and Well-Being with Leslie Forde Many parents, particularly moms, feel like taking care of your health and well-being only comes after your family’s needs are met. That essentially means that there’s no time left for any form of self-care. But today’s guest discusses how we can take better care of ourselves and in doing so, take better care of the ones we love. Leslie Forde is the CEO and Founder of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs®. Her business provides evidence-based tools for moms to reclaim time from the never-done list for well-being. And she helps employers retain caregivers. Over 3,500 parents have participated since March of 2020 in the Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs research study - the longest running study of its kind about the pandemic’s ongoing impact on the work/life, care, and wellness needs of parents. Show Notes: [2:45] - Leslie returned to work after a second maternity leave and didn’t learn the importance of a mom’s hierarchy of needs until she completely burned out. [4:19] - When she went back to work, she felt like the answer was to just work “harder.” [5:26] - In hindsight, there were a lot of signs that she was not okay. Everyone was flourishing except for her. [7:46] - Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs has self-care at the top. But the reason we don’t spend time on this is because the other things are never done. [10:28] - If you think that you will start something for yourself when something else is done, you will never start. [11:58] - Health problems for moms often don’t show up until later in life and can be attributed to ignoring self-care practices. [14:10] - Leslie shares a story about making cookies and how a hobby can turn into something stressful. [15:51] - Your health and well-being is of equal importance to your children’s health and well-being. [16:55] - Consequences of ignoring health are gradual and it could feel easier to put it off compared to more immediate consequences of focusing on your family. [18:38] - Perfection is not critical. Be flexible and find a set of practices that work for you. [19:59] - Mom-guilt is real and it is a heavy weight. [21:57] - Navigating the health and unique needs of a neurodiverse child is huge and a significant amount of work. [23:08] - Awareness and education is improving and is better than it's ever been. But the systems in place are still not designed to help those who learn and think differently. [25:12] - Give yourself achievable goals that will make you feel the success of accomplishing work that needs to be done, but in more manageable ways. [26:12] - Guilt can be paralyzing, depressing, and decelerating. [27:36] - Self-care doesn’t mean a spa day. It could mean a good night’s sleep or a healthy meal. [29:03] - Find the resources that will help you. Your commitment is not to solve the problem. You don’t have to do it alone. [30:32] - Pick something from the top of Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs and make it a habit. [33:37] - If you can create a routine out of something, it will relieve a lot of the mental load of maintaining it. [36:46] - Defer, eliminate, outsource, or spouse source things that are too much to manage at once. About Our Guest: Leslie has used research to inform growth and innovation strategy for over 20 years. Most recently, she held leadership positions at Houghton Mifflin Harcourt, Care.com and CSpace, an Omnicom market research agency. And for the past decade, she’s focused on media and technology for the childcare, eldercare, mental health, and education sectors. She’s a frequent speaker and consultant to organizations on how to retain and support parents, caregivers, and people of color, including HubSpot, Merck, Scholastic and the Barr Foundation. Her writing about well-being, equity and the future of work has appeared in The Washington Post, Slate, Parents Magazine, TLNT, Directorship and her website, Mom’s Hierarchy of Needs among other publications. She’s been quoted in the Wall Street Journal, The New York Times, CNN, National Geographic, Fast Company, US News & World Report, SHRM, and many other outlets. Connect with Leslie: Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29320273

Ep. 166: Educational Therapy, Distance Learning, and Social Justice with Dr. Bibi Pirayesh 01/02/2024

Ep. 166: Educational Therapy, Distance Learning, and Social Justice with Dr. Bibi Pirayesh Let’s revisit one of our favorite Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast episodes with Dr. Bibi Pirayesh. Dr. Bibi Pirayesh is a Learning Specialist and an Educational Therapist who has been in private practice for over a decade. While the emphasis of Dr. Pirayesh’s work is on remediating learning disabilities in a one-on-one setting, she is also a sought after speaker and community advocate for children and families around learning rights. In this episode, we discuss how educational therapists help students develop the skills they need in order to be successful. You will also learn what can be done now to make a difference in the life of a child who is struggling in school. Listen on to hear Dr. Pirayesh’s riveting statements on how learning differences and disorders can be viewed as a social justice issue. Show Notes: [2:31] - Dr. Pirayesh began her career in education by accident and shares her story on how she started on this path with observing children and families as a researcher. [7:14] - Using a processing lens, Dr. Pirayesh helps students with remediation by first knowing what the issues are and provides targeted intervention. [9:34] - Educational therapists are important as they will be able to bring in speech pathologists, occupational therapists, psychologists, etc. as they discover the needs of the student. [11:50] - There are certain types of progress that are really easy to measure. Bibi uses phonics and phonemic awareness as an example. [12:32] - So much of the work is about helping kids own their learning and demystifying the learning process. There are a lot of emotions for parents and students to manage. [14:27] - All brains are equipped to learn, grow, and expand. When we are able to help a child find what is getting in the way of that natural flow. [15:30] - We live in a world where there is a lot of pressure on both students and parents. [16:49] - When kids struggle, they lose the motivation for learning. [18:41] - Bibi explains that the way our formal education system works is a very linear and limited way of thinking and it is a social injustice. [20:20] - What we know from research is that 10-15% of children struggle with learning difficulties. [21:24] - There is a constant demand for higher and better production and that is what our education system has become. [23:24] - These issues are large-scale cultural issues, and so much of the work we need to do is to undo the damage. [27:27] - Many parents have trouble accessing the very resources that protect them. [28:57] - Due to the way these laws are designed, we see the overrepresentation of minorities and students from a low socio-economic background. [33:16] - When kids with learning difficulties pass through school, are they ready to navigate the real world? [36:23] - Communities are organically designed to be able to figure out and solve their own problems, but a narrow education system prevents this. [39:53] - The system needs to work in a way that increases access to services in an equitable way no matter where you attend school. [43:19] - We’ve limited ourselves by seeing the world through a very tiny lens. [44:30] - Having this conversation and acknowledging the problem is an important first step. [46:20] - “Regardless of what is going on, if you move forward with the idea of connecting, empathizing, and understanding, somehow miraculously it will work.” [48:45] - Take a moment to build a relationship with your child’s teacher and start a meaningful conversation. [49:47] - When you reach out to the teacher, you are modeling to your child that it is the right thing to do to make yourself vulnerable and ask for help. [51:10] - Remember that we are raising human beings and you can’t do that in a factory system. About Our Guest: Dr. Bibi Pirayesh holds a Bachelor's degree in Neuroscience and Education from the University of Pittsburgh and a Master's degree in Developmental Psychology from Columbia University where her work focused primarily on children’s development of mathematical thinking and cognitive neuroscience. While the emphasis of Dr. Pirayesh’s work is on remediating learning disabilities in a one-on-one setting, she is also a sought after speaker and community advocate for children and families around learning rights. Bibi works with children grades 1-12 and covers a wide range of learning difficulties including dyslexia, ADHD, and spectrum disorders. Dr. Pirayesh completed her doctoral work at Loyola Marymount University where she is also faculty and is involved with a number of service organizations including The Association of Educational Therapists. Connect with Dr. Bibi Pirayesh: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29206253

Ep. 165: Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities with Dr. Daniel Franklin 12/26/2023

Ep. 165: Helping Your Child with Language-Based Learning Disabilities with Dr. Daniel Franklin It’s time to spend some time with family for the holidays and now is a great time to look back at some of the earliest episodes of Diverse Thinking Different Learning. Today, we’re revisiting our conversation with Dr. Daniel Franklin. What is a Language-Based Learning Disability and when should we as parents be concerned? Well, let’s ask an expert! Today my guest is Dr. Daniel Franklin, the founder and clinical director of the Los Angeles based and the author of the book In today’s episode my guest and I discuss how the parent-child relationship is an important component of any intervention. We also recognize the fine line between being a helicopter parent and a helpful parent and Dr. Franklin gives great advice on walking that fine line. This conversation will leave you feeling empowered and inspired. Show Notes: [3:37] - Research shows that many children who have a reading difficulty or diagnosed specific learning disability frequently have a behavioral difference as well, like ADHD. [4:29] - Because of this overlap in learning difficulties, they are grouped under a broader umbrella of Language-Based Learning Disabilities. [6:20] - We want to remember that the human brain, especially a child’s brain, is a social organ that functions best in a context of healthy, positive relationships. [7:32] - Only when a child is in a calm, regulated state can they experience meaningful learning. [9:41] - The difference between a helicopter parent and a helpful parent is that a helicopter parent provides help that is not needed. [11:04] - When we need to provide more help, that is fine, but when help is no longer needed in an area, as parents, we need to step back. [13:39] - Dr. Franklin gives some suggestions on how to help students with writing without being counterproductive. [17:05] - Dr. Franklin emphasizes the importance of identifying underlying difficulties to provide students the correct instruction and intervention. [18:04] - The hierarchy of reading support is discussed in Dr. Franklin’s book and he breaks it down briefly with Dr. Wilson. [19:40] - Dr. Franklin was featured in a documentary called which focuses on the importance of student-teacher relationships. [22:05] - Having a strong relationship with students is important in helping them develop self-confidence and reinforce a love of learning. [24:58] - No two kids are the same. No two kids learn the same things in the same way at the same time. [28:11] - Sharing your observations with teachers is important. [30:47] - If you want to know what is going on in a child’s mind, observe their body. If they are slumped over, their brain is slumped, too. About Our Guest: Dr. Daniel Franklin is the author of , and a co-editor of . He holds a master’s degree from the Harvard Graduate School of Education and a PhD from UCLA in Education. Dr. Franklin has over 30 years of experience in education as a teacher, administrator, and educational consultant. Connect with Dr. Daniel Franklin: Call Dr. Franklin (310) 571-1176 Links and Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29206133

Ep. 164: 5 Keys to Productive IEPs with April Rehrig 12/19/2023

Ep. 164: 5 Keys to Productive IEPs with April Rehrig The IEP process is notoriously daunting, overwhelming, and can be confusing to parents. However, parents have the right to be active participants in all aspects of an IEP. There’s more that parents can do to be a part of their child’s education and successfully advocate for the support they need in the classroom. Today’s guest is April Rehrig, the founder of Rise Educational Advocacy and Consulting. April has a unique approach to special education reform that promotes team collaboration and communication to ensure every child feels valued. Through Rise Educational Advocacy, she guides families through the IEP process and helps bridge the gap between schools and parents. This episode is all about the 5 keys to productive IEPs and how to build a relationship with the team of people supporting a child. Show Notes: [2:09] - April has been working with neurodiverse students since she was a teenager. She shares her background and what drives her passion. [4:45] - An experience in her early years of teaching opened her eyes to presumed competency. [5:32] - After 20 years as a school psychologist, April now bridges the gap between schools and parents. [6:54] - Parents just want their kids to get the support they need, but it is daunting to get started. Most parents don’t know what to expect. [8:41] - Just like building a house, you must have a solid foundation. [11:02] - If schools and psychologists communicate with parents from the very beginning, it saves time and makes things easier for families. [12:32] - Parents have the opportunity to write a parent report to share during the IEP meeting. [14:41] - Psychologists and teachers are trained to look for what the deficits are. But reports are a snapshot. Really good evaluations are based on multiple measures. [16:44] - What is a child’s inferential learning? Standardized test scores do not provide this information. [19:23] - Comprehensive evaluations drive the IEP. [21:00] - Parents have the right to participate in all aspects of the IEP process. [25:24] - There’s a misnomer called predetermination. April has a different opinion on giving reports before a meeting. [28:09] - Each state and district has a different approach to the IEP process. But something that is universal, the parent input section is often only three lines long. [30:27] - When we take sides, we lose the importance of talking about the child as a team. [32:57] - Parents can get stuck on advocating for a particular service, but should look at weaknesses and the outcomes they want. About Our Guest: April Rehrig is the founder of Rise Educational Advocacy and Consulting, LLC. She has over 20 years of experience as a school psychologist, teacher, and parent in the public school setting. With her Build a Better IEP™️curriculum, April teaches parents and teachers nationwide how to successfully navigate special education from a strength-based perspective. Her unique approach to special education reform promotes team collaboration and communication. April holds a master’s degree in education and is a Board Certified Education Advocate (BCEA) Fellow. She completed the prestigious Council of Parent Attorneys and Advocates (COPAA) SEAT™ 2.0 & 3.0 program, is a Licensed Educational Psychologist (LEP), Certified Autism Spectrum Disorder Clinical Specialist (ASDCS), Master IEP Coach©, and credentialed teacher. Connect with April: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/29008478

Ep. 163: Raising Children with Mental Health Challenges with Jan Stewart 12/12/2023

Ep. 163: Raising Children with Mental Health Challenges with Jan Stewart In her raw and emotional book , Jan Stewart shares her deeply personal experience as a mother of two children with wildly different needs. Through the challenges of finding the right diagnoses and treatments, Jan learned to insist on an integrated partnership approach, leading her to then support other parents facing similar struggles. She joins the podcast today to talk about this rollercoaster journey for her as a parent and how the experience led her to work in mental health governance. Her insight is profound because she has certainly walked in the shoes of an overwhelmed mother. Listen in to learn more about her journey and her advice for navigating the ups and downs of yours. Show Notes: [2:16] - Jan wrote the book to help people understand the pain and struggle in this journey and how to navigate through it. [3:38] - First-time parents worry, but in Jan’s case, it took her years to learn to trust her gut. She knew something was going on. [6:11] - Jan’s son and daughter showed completely different concerns. [7:34] - Her children were so deep in distress; when doctors finally listened, Jan was able to seek the help they needed. [9:27] - The “wait-and-see” approach puts things off for so long until a child is in crisis. [11:01] - Jan doesn’t only provide support for parents, but also provides education. [13:52] - You have to take a breather from time to time when diving into education. But you also need to stay current. [14:28] - Take a collaborative approach with every single person that is a part of your child’s life. [15:37] - If a doctor, therapist, or any other individual working with her child is not fully cooperative, Jan goes elsewhere. [18:19] - The experience can feel like a rollercoaster, with a lot of ups and downs. [19:08] - Be completely open and truly listen to your children. [20:26] - Don’t hide information from your children, especially when it comes to taking medication. [22:42] - Other family members may not understand or support you and your child. They may be misinformed and you can limit the amount of engagement you have with them. [24:34] - The right friends will know how to ask when you need support and how they can help. [26:58] - As a society, we have a responsibility to spread facts. [29:06] - The process for parents can be very overwhelming. [31:23] - Mental illness has such a negative connotation and even villains in movies and media are portrayed with mental illness. [33:15] - Toxic positivity is also a problem on social media. [36:21] - Find Jan’s book online and in some bookstore locations. About Our Guest: Jan Stewart is a highly regarded mental health governance expert and advocate. Growing up in New York and moving to Toronto after marrying a Canadian, she was untouched by major adversity throughout her youth and imagined a similar, happy life for her children. In her raw and emotional book Hold on Tight: A Parent’s Journey Raising Children with Mental Illness, she candidly describes the shock she and her husband faced when each of their two young children started exhibiting troubling behaviors. Connect with Jan: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28959518

Ep. 162: Can Play Therapy Help My Child? with Cathi Spooner, LCSW, RPT-S 12/05/2023

Ep. 162: Can Play Therapy Help My Child? with Cathi Spooner, LCSW, RPT-S Today, we’re answering the question, “Can play therapy help my child?” But first, we need to understand what play therapy is and what it is not. Our guest, Cathi Spooner shares insights on helping children navigate complex emotions through play therapy. And there’s a lot to talk about! We’ve had several episodes discussing different treatment modalities and information about ways we can provide social and emotional support to our children and adolescents. Play therapy might be the right fit for your child and your family. Listen to find out how Cathi has used play therapy to support children and adolescents struggling with anxiety, depression, trauma, divorce and separation, attachment issues, self-regulation issues, and grief and loss. Show Notes: [2:56] - Play therapy is about helping children access the therapeutic powers of play through a specific therapy modality. It’s grounded in a theoretical model. [4:32] - Play is the language of children. [5:13] - It is more than just pulling out games and toys. [6:29] - To an outsider looking in, it looks like the counselor or therapist is just playing. But they know how to use play to work through emotions. [7:36] - Children naturally work things out and make sense of the world through play. [10:43] - Cathi describes the types of toys and games in a play therapy room. [12:36] - Anger and aggression are normal emotions and parents tend to want to avoid them. [15:12] - Play gives therapists a way to see what’s going on underneath a child’s behavior. [17:32] - Children need parents to be able to co-regulate emotions. [19:31] - Children can’t be the ones responsible for learning how to regulate their emotions. [22:02] - One key is to empower parents to continue this work at home outside of the therapy room. [24:22] - Parents need support and guidance on how to help their children. [28:20] - If parents don’t trust the therapist, they will not be able to feel comfortable and confident in being the parent they want to be. [31:26] - Expressive art is an amazing modality to incorporate into play therapy to show children other ways to work through and make sense of things without verbally articulating. [33:14] - When we’re in distress, making sense of things is challenging. Play makes it more accessible. About Our Guest: Cathi Spooner is an LCSW and RPT-S. She has worked with children, adolescents and their families since 1982 in a variety of capacities including therapeutic recreation, teaching special education for children with emotional and learning difficulties, residential mental health treatment programs, substance abuse treatment, and outpatient psychotherapy. Her expertise includes working with children, adolescents and families experiencing trauma and attachment issues as well as depression, anxiety, grief & loss, behavior problems, court-involved youth, homeless populations, ADHD, foster care and adoption issues, parental separation and divorce, and school problems. Cathi has conducted numerous professional play therapy training sessions at the local, state, national, and international level. Her Play Therapy Academy program prepares child and adolescent therapists to become play therapists. She is the author of Attachment-Focused Family Play Therapy: An Intervention for Children and Adolescents After Trauma (Routledge). Connect with Cathi: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28744423

Ep. 161: The Intersection of Neurodivergence and Substance Use with Eric Rydzewski and Chris Wilson 11/28/2023

Ep. 161: The Intersection of Neurodivergence and Substance Use with Eric Rydzewski and Chris Wilson Research shows that individuals with learning and thinking differences are at higher risk for substance abuse. It is also known that there is a connection between mental health problems, like depression and anxiety, and substance abuse. But now that we know that, what do we do about it? Today’s guests support neurodiverse youth and help with substance use and abuse concerns. Eric Rydzewski and Chris Wilson join me today from Aspen Growth Coaching to help guide us through some of the misinformation on this topic and the many things that people generally don’t understand about the connection between neurodivergence and substance abuse. In the end, we can’t always stop a teenager from being impulsive, but we can understand why they are more vulnerable to substance abuse and learn what to do to help them. Show Notes: [2:36] - Teenagers with ADHD are at greater risk for substance use and abuse. [4:37] - Receiving a later diagnosis of something that impacts someone’s daily functioning can lead to seeking comfort in drugs and alcohol. [6:21] - Some people don’t need an official diagnosis to know that they are drawn to substances that make them feel calm or stimulated. [7:59] - Drugs and alcohol seem like a “quick fix” to a struggle or challenge. [9:32] - There is also a lot of societal pressure especially for teens who already feel isolated. [10:44] - It is common for drugs and alcohol to be used as performance enhancement in social connections. [14:20] - Eric and Chris work with a lot of people who function well while using substances, but the dependence grows. [16:48] - Teenagers are naturally impulsive and experimental. Some who are neurodiverse may be more impulsive. [18:51] - The risk of substance abuse is also connected to nutrition and sleep. Part of the work Eric and Chris do is addressing taking care of their bodies. [21:25] - Mental health conditions like depression and anxiety increase risks of substance abuse. These mental health conditions are also seen in those who are neurodiverse. [24:00] - Parents get lost in these situations, but it is important to have healthy boundaries. [25:23] - There are thousands of families in the United States dealing with this. There are a lot of support groups. [27:11] - A critical part of building resilience is knowing there is a caring adult in their corner who can have difficult but supportive conversations with them. [28:40] - What does it look like when an intervention works? Everyone is very different. [32:26] - Recognize if your child is on a self-destructive path and seek the support they need to learn to be healthy and independent. About Our Guests: Eric Rydzewski Eric is a Licensed Professional Counselor who specializes in working with adolescents and young adults with comorbid neurodivergent stress and addiction issues He is trained in autism identification and screening and uses an emotionally focused approach to the families he works with as a way of enhancing connection rather than dividing through intervention. He has over 12 years of experience working with neurodivergent populations. Eric lives in Grand Junction, Colorado with his wife and family. Chris Wilson Chris is a Sobriety, ADHD, and Life Coach. He has a bachelor’s in English Literature and a long professional history as a corporate executive in the maritime shipping industry. After a decade in this high-powered career, Chris walked away from his business success to hike the Pacific Crest Trail and prioritize sobriety and living a more intentional life. After this dramatic life change, Chris has dedicated himself to supporting others with similar experiences. Using the skills he brought with him from his business background, Chris supports his clients to set themselves up for success. Moving away from shame and a failure-focused mindset, Chris teaches a “back to the basics” approach, helping clients establish lifestyle changes that encourage a healthy life while practicing resiliency in the face of relapse, attention challenges, and identity struggles. Connect with Eric and Chris: Email Eric: Email Chris: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28678008

Ep. 160: The Sleep-Deprived Teen with Lisa Lewis 11/21/2023

Ep. 160: The Sleep-Deprived Teen with Lisa Lewis Today’s topic is no stranger to the Diverse Thinking Different Learning Podcast. We’re talking about sleep, but this time, we’re discussing the impact of sleep (and lack thereof) on teens. Lisa Lewis explains it all beautifully in her book . And in our conversation today, she shares some interesting facts about the adolescent brain, how sleep deprivation impedes brain development, and what we can do about it as parents and as a society. Show Notes: [2:19] - In the early years of our child’s life, we think about naps and sleep often. But it is something that becomes overlooked as they get older. [3:24] - Adolescence is a time of major brain development. [5:02] - Sleep, specifically, is incredibly important for this process. [6:18] - The number of hours needed for a teen is more than for adults. Teens should be getting 8-10 hours at least of sleep. Young teens should be getting 11 hours. [8:02] - Naturally, teens will start going to bed later. This is a normal rhythm change. [9:25] - There are a number of factors behind why teens are not getting enough sleep. [11:08] - The biggest policy change that could greatly benefit adolescents is a later school start time for middle and high school students. [13:04] - Tech use late at night is a big factor as well as overscheduling. [15:10] - Lisa explains some of the processes that are impacted by sleep deprivation, specifically academically. [16:23] - Mood, irritability, and emotional regulation are greatly impacted by sleep. This is true for adults as well. [17:50] - Sleep deprivation also has a link to suicidality, mental health issues, and impulsivity. [19:20] - Many teens are involved in athletics and sleep deprivation increases risk for injury. Sleep deprivation is a concern for teens learning to drive as well. [20:54] - What are some of the things we can do as parents and as a community? [23:01] - There are many things to consider including homework time and extracurricular activities. [25:11] - Technology is here to stay. But how is it impacting sleep? [26:58] - There are some best practices for parents and teens regarding tech use at night. [29:27] - Making changes in the home needs to be collaborative. [31:26] - Part of technology rules and wind-down routines is being a good role model. About Our Guest: Lisa L. Lewis is the author of (described as “a call to action” by Arianna Huffington and “an urgent and timely read” by Daniel H. Pink). Her book, which was reviewed by The New York Times, is an outgrowth of her previous work on the topic, including her role in helping get California’s landmark law on healthy school start times passed. Lewis has written for The Atlantic, The Washington Post, The New York Times and the Los Angeles Times, among others, and has appeared on the TODAY show, WBUR “On Point,” BBC World Radio, and local radio and TV in Los Angeles, San Francisco and elsewhere. She has a master’s degree from the Medill School of Journalism at Northwestern University, an MFA from Mills College, and a bachelor’s degree from UC Berkeley. The parent of a teen and a recent teen, Lewis lives in California with her family. Connect with Lisa: by Lisa Lewis Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28559843

Ep. 159: The Benefits of Boarding for Diverse Learners with Sara Jackson 11/14/2023

Ep. 159: The Benefits of Boarding for Diverse Learners with Sara Jackson Parents frequently find themselves searching for the perfect educational environment for their child. And when you have a child who thinks and learns differently, you may also look for an environment where your child has access to interventions that address their unique needs, a program that incorporates clinical support, helps your child develop social-emotional learning and adaptive functioning skills, and provides them with the support of a community of educators and peers. For some students, that could mean a residential or boarding program, where they live and learn in the same place. Sara Jackson joins us today to talk about the benefits of this type of program for neurodivergent youth. Listen to learn more. Show Notes: [2:30] - A boarding school is special because a student is getting the full academic learning, but their life after school is intentionally programmed as well. [4:35] - Boarding school integrates social-emotional learning into the day-to-day schedule for students which in many other environments is missing. [6:42] - There is a lot of opportunity for incidental learning. [8:02] - The biggest benefit for neurodiverse students in a residential program is the built-in community. [9:33] - Sara explains that the students they serve are experiencing life-changing events that are building self-confidence. [11:04] - Who is a good candidate for a residential program and what is the right age? It’s a whole family decision. [13:06] - For a child with learning challenges, the struggles are often the focus. But, a personalized education program like this gives the opportunity to focus on strengths and interests. [15:13] - In order to thrive, some students need a specialized program. [16:48] - When students are successful outside of school, it increases confidence during academic learning as well. [19:01] - Sara describes a typical day for students at Riverview School. [21:16] - Parents are close partners with Riverview School. [22:49] - For more information, visit their website. There are virtual and in-person information sessions available. About Our Guest: Sara has a BA in Neuroscience from Hamilton College and Master of Social Work from Boston University. She is a licensed clinical social worker. Sara has worked at Riverview School since 2001, in a number of positions including as direct care staff, a clinician, the social pragmatics and behavior specialist and currently as the coordinator of the middle school/high school boarding program. Connect with Sara: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28551530

Ep. 158: Why I Homeschool with Wendy Zanders 11/07/2023

Ep. 158: Why I Homeschool with Wendy Zanders Although today’s guest is a declutter coach and has been featured as a guest on the podcast before, she’s here for a completely different reason today. Today, Wendy Zanders is here in her role as a mom who homeschools. This episode is a down-to-earth and realistic conversation about the popular topic of homeschooling. Wendy shares her journey, the ups and downs, the reasons behind her family’s decision, and the possibilities homeschooling has opened up for her children. If you are thinking about homeschooling or have questions about how you can homeschool more effectively, Wendy will have some answers in this conversation. Show Notes: [2:06] - Even though the homeschool journey for Wendy is for the whole family, both of her children are homeschooled differently. [3:10] - Some families changed to homeschooling during the pandemic in 2020 and made the decision to continue. [4:22] - Wendy shares the experience of meeting another family that was homeschooled and her daughter knew right away she wanted to be homeschooled as well. [6:20] - It is okay to simply try homeschooling. If you don’t like it or it isn’t the right fit for your family, you can always go back to public school or find another option. [7:48] - If you feel that you are not qualified or not feeling confident in a certain subject, you can find a tutor for support. [9:19] - Wendy shares a bit about their structured school schedule and the things they do that are outside the traditional structure. [10:49] - There are so many different options and you can make the decision that is best for you and your family. [13:14] - Wendy shares the recent milestones for her children. [15:26] - Through her son’s passion and interests, Wendy was able to create the perfect curriculum for him and he is now in a program for welding. [17:10] - An important component of homeschooling is a community. [19:14] - It is a myth that homeschooled children are missing out on the socialization opportunities provided in public schools. [20:42] - There was a big mental shift that Wendy had to make. Unschooling has been the best fit for her and her family. [23:52] - It is not at all required to spend a ton of money on a homeschool curriculum. [25:30] - There doesn’t always have to be a dedicated school space in your home. Your kids may not learn that way. About Our Guest: Wendy Zanders is a professional organizer, Your Declutter Coach, and a United States Army veteran. Her family has been homeschooling both kids since 2019. They are a special needs homeschooling family that loves to learn outside the box. Her 16-year-old son graduated and is now a professional welder pursuing a career in the automotive industry. Their 10-year-old wants to be a scientist, and they enjoy exploring that path with her. Wendy is the biggest cheerleader for her kids and their journeys. Connect with Wendy: ChildNEXUS Provider Profile Email: Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28512713

Ep. 157: What Dyslexia Screening in Schools Means for Your Child with Vickie Brett and Amanda Selogie 10/31/2023

Ep. 157: What Dyslexia Screening in Schools Means for Your Child with Vickie Brett and Amanda Selogie With a new dyslexia screening law coming into effect next year in the state of California, parents need to know what to expect and what the rights of their children are. To help educate us on what this screener is and what it means for our children, educational attorneys Vickie Brett and Amanda Selogie join the podcast again. Vickie and Amanda are both attorneys and founders of the Inclusive Education Project, which includes an IEP Learning Center and a podcast. As educational attorneys, they focus on advocating for and educating families on their legal rights, especially when it comes to the services their child is entitled to through public education. Today, we’re discussing what this law means and how it impacts all students in Kindergarten through second grade in the state of California. You’ll learn what to expect and how you can be prepared for pushing for a comprehensive evaluation in the event that your child is found to be at risk for dyslexia. Show Notes: [1:49] - Welcome back, Vickie and Amanda! They were previously on during the COVID-19 pandemic discussing legal rights of students needing services. [4:00] - October is specifically a busy month for IEP meetings and initial assessments. [6:42] - Because of holidays and the busy season, there are a lot of things to accomplish in a short amount of time. [8:08] - It is so important for parents to understand the rights their children have. [9:31] - In 2024, California will have funding for universal screening for dyslexia in students from Kindergarten through second grade. [11:34] - Schools are supposed to implement these screenings in 2024. The goal with this law is it uses a universal screener. [13:23] - Interventions being provided through RTI and reading groups are not enough. [16:46] - The timing in California also coincides with the universal pre-Kindergarten program. [18:18] - Screening is not the same thing as intervention or assessment. They identify kids who are at risk for dyslexia. But then what? [20:30] - Vickie explains how the law works and the requirements it outlines. [23:03] - For a screener to really work, it needs to be done for all students. [24:30] - One common trait of children with dyslexia is that they are able to compensate in the early years of school and tend to be overlooked. [26:47] - Being at risk should be enough of an alert to proceed with a comprehensive evaluation. [29:19] - There are certain things that the school will take care of, but parents need to be vigilant in requesting more if it's needed. [30:52] - With a universal screener, there should be a universal intervention. [34:59] - Amanda thinks that implementation will be left to each county and school district. [37:04] - Is every county going to be able to train and implement this screener? [40:15] - You can find more information on the . About Our Guests: Vickie Brett Vickie Brett was born and raised in Southern California and through the Inclusive Education Project she focuses on advocating and educating families about their legal rights. Vickie is committed to strengthening her clients who come to her disheartened and beaten down by the current education system. Because Vickie is bilingual, she represents and empowers many monolingual Spanish-speaking families. She is a dedicated pro bono attorney for the Superior Court of Los Angeles’s Juvenile and Dependency 317(e) Panel and in the past was a supervising attorney for the UCI Law School's Special Education Law Project. Amanda Selogie Amanda Selogie received a bachelor’s degree in Child and Adolescent Development, specializing in Education from California State University, Northridge and a Juris Doctorate from Whittier Law School where she served as a Fellow in the prestigious Center for Children's Rights Fellowship Program and served in the school's pro-bono Special Education Legal Clinic. Amanda immersed herself in the world of civil rights and educational advocacy through her work in education, empowerment and advocacy with the Inclusive Education project, supporting inclusion in early education through her appointment to the Orange County Child Care and Development Planning Council and their Inclusion Collaborative Committee, previous work serving as a supervising attorney for UCI Law School’s Education Rights Pro-bono project and coaching of AYSO’s VIP (Very Important Player) program coaching players living with disabilities and creating an inclusive soccer program. Connect with Vickie and Amanda: Email Links and Related Resources: Connect with Us: The Diverse Thinking Different Learning podcast is intended for informational purposes only and is not a substitute for medical or legal advice, diagnosis, or treatment. Additionally, the views and opinions expressed by the host and guests are not considered treatment and do not necessarily reflect those of ChildNEXUS, Inc or the host, Dr. Karen Wilson. /episode/index/show/childnexus/id/28469942

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