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#655: Navigating Market Shifts with Gene Darden

John Kitchens Coach Podcast | Life. Coaching. Real Estate.

Release Date: 03/26/2025

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Episode Overview

In this episode, John is joined by Gene Darden, a seasoned real estate leader navigating the ups and downs of a shifting market. Gene opens up about his journey of reinvention—from nearly going bankrupt to rebuilding a leaner, smarter business model. Together, they dive deep into economic indicators, real estate strategy, consumer trends, and the critical role of leadership and adaptability in uncertain times. Whether you're a seasoned agent or navigating your first downturn, this conversation delivers invaluable insight into what it takes to survive—and thrive—in today’s market.


Key Topics Covered

Reinvention Through Market Shifts

  • Why scaling up in a boom is easy—but scaling down quickly is critical.

  • Lessons learned from holding on too long to past opportunities.

  • The importance of agility and understanding when to pivot.

Understanding Economic Indicators

  • How bond markets, labor trends, and buyer behaviors impact real estate decisions.

  • The role of adjustable-rate mortgages in Florida’s inventory spike.

  • Real examples of price corrections in waterfront markets.

Strategy Over Sales

  • The death of the CMA: Why agents must go beyond comps to win listings.

  • How to build pricing conversations around current realities, not past highs.

  • Understanding seller psychology and motivating based on financial strategy.

The New Era of Real Estate Agents

  • Why agents must shift from glam and social to substance and strategy.

  • Understanding 20%, 1%, and 0.1% level advice and how it applies to sellers.

  • The gap between knowledge and execution—and how to collapse time through better preparation.

Multi-Market Mastery

  • How Gene is building business in both Alabama and Florida by leveraging team support.

  • The difference in conversations between local buyers and investment-minded clients.

  • Using data and AI to understand where the money is moving from and to.

Consumer Behavior and AI’s Impact

  • How tools like ChatGPT are informing today’s buyers and sellers.

  • What agents must do to stay ahead of increasingly educated clients.

  • The irreplaceable value of personalized strategy and relationship-building.

Building for the Future with PLACE

  • Gene’s five-year plan to scale with PLACE and eventually exit.

  • Why bringing in a strategic partner helps with growth, systems, and team leadership.

  • How ancillary services like mortgage align with long-term scalability.


Resources Mentioned

  • PLACE – A platform for top-producing teams to scale and sell.

  • ListTrac – For tracking listing views and market interest by location.

  • Area Pro / LandVoice – Tools for prospecting, data gathering, and lead generation.

  • Dan Heath – “Upstream” & “Reset” – Books on problem-solving and aligning with real goals.

  • Valuetainment / PBD Podcast – Gene’s go-to for economic and business insights.

  • Grok / ChatGPT – AI tools to boost research, prep, and agent productivity.



“You’ve got to be able to tell people what they need to hear, not just what they want to hear.” – Gene Darden

 

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