ERP 526: Why Speaking up Deepens Love, Even When It Feels like Conflict — An Interview with Tonya Lester
Empowered Relationship Podcast: Your Relationship Resource And Guide
Release Date: 04/28/2026
Empowered Relationship Podcast: Your Relationship Resource And Guide
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In this episode, listeners are invited to rethink what it means to be authentic in close relationships, especially when it comes to sharing hard truths or setting limits. You’ll hear insights on why self-assertion is not about ruining relationships, but about bringing your whole self into them. By exploring practical strategies, emotional tools, and real-life examples, this conversation guides you in overcoming the fear of rocking the boat—so you can communicate courageously and build relationships where both people feel truly known and valued.
Tonya Lester, LCSW, is the author of Push Back: Live, Love, and Work with Others Without Losing Yourself. A Brooklyn-based psychotherapist and writer known for her work with relationships and communication, her essay “Couples Therapist, Heal Thyself” was published in the Modern Love column in The New York Times, and she has been writing the popular Staying Sane Inside Insanity blog for Psychology Today since 2020. She has been featured as an expert in The Guardian, Newsweek, Well+Good, HuffPost, Fatherly, and the Bumble site, The Buzz.
Episode Highlights
04:03 The link between speaking up, emotional intimacy, and common gendered roles.
07:18 Navigating differences: collaboration, needs, and the relationship as a system.
12:40 Embracing discomfort and staying present with unresolved issues.
13:53 The importance of vulnerability and framing difficult conversations safely.
17:02 Applying healthy pressure: strengthening or releasing relationships.
19:56 Recognizing the “shock absorber” role and its impact on self and intimacy.
23:10 Identifying “shock magnets”: escalation, withdrawal, and unhealthy conflict cycles.
27:29 Communicating effectively with kindness.
30:38 Defining self-possession and its role in relational health.
32:49 Using internal signals and “weathervane” emotions for personal growth.
38:11 Building emotional maturity: self-compassion, timeouts, and ongoing practice.
40:38 Understanding and managing emotional activation.
42:42 Addressing hidden relationship dynamics and the importance of modeling boundaries.
48:21 Exploring possibilities: challenging feelings of being trapped and opening to choice.
51:41 Putting clarity into practice: actionable tools and lasting relationship change.
Your Checklist of Actions to Take
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Practice Soft Startups: Begin hard conversations with vulnerability and clarity about your intentions rather than leading with anger or accusation to lower defensiveness in your partner.
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Name Your Emotions: Before raising a difficult topic, identify and share your underlying emotions, such as fear, anxiety, or longing, to increase openness.
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Set Boundaries with Clarity: Clearly state what is not working for you in the relationship and propose specific changes, avoiding blame or generalizations.
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Tolerate Unresolved Issues: Accept that not every problem will have an immediate solution and practice tolerating the discomfort of ongoing, in-process conversations.
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Take Breaks When Activated: When conflict escalates, or emotions run high, pause the conversation and use activities like taking a walk or shower to regulate your nervous system before returning.
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Use "I" Statements: Use concise, direct language to express your needs and feelings without attacking or criticizing your partner.
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Reflect on the System: Regularly assess if both partners are contributing to the emotional work and call out patterns where efforts are imbalanced.
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Model Self-Possession: Take responsibility for your own happiness and choices, setting an example for both yourself and others—including children—about how to live in alignment with your values.
Mentioned
Push Back: Live, Love, and Work with Others Without Losing Yourself (*Amazon Affiliate link) (book)
About Tonya Lester (Psychology Today)
Shifting Criticism For Connected Communication (Free guide)
How Being “Difficult” Can Assist Growth & Development In Relationship (ERP 360)
Connect with Tonya Lester
Website: tonyalester.com
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