EFR 921: Why You People-Please: Understanding the Fawning Trauma Response (Toxic Hope vs Reality) with Dr. Ingrid Clayton
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Release Date: 01/26/2026
EFR 923: Hydrogen Water Explained: The Smallest Molecule with Massive Health Benefits with Greg the Hydrogen Man
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This episode is brought to you by and What if the smallest molecule in the universe could have the biggest impact on your health? Welcome "Greg the Hydrogen Man" to explore the science, controversy, and real-world application of hydrogen water and molecular hydrogen therapy. This conversation goes beyond hydration — it explores how hydrogen acts as a biological signal, how it interacts with oxygen, and why it may be foundational to cellular health. Whether you’re into biohacking, longevity, performance, or holistic health, this episode will challenge how you think about water and what it...
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EFR 922: The Real Reason You Can’t Break Bad Habits (It’s Not Willpower)! Psychologist Explains the Science of Identity with Dr. Adi Jaffe
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This episode is brought to you by , and In this episode of Ever Forward Radio, psychologist and addiction expert Dr. Adi Jaffe reframes addiction, compulsive behavior, and self-sabotage as intelligent coping strategies rather than personal failures. He explains why labeling people as “addicts” creates shame and traps identity, how early childhood and even preverbal experiences shape adult behavior, and why most habits don’t change through awareness alone. Dr. Jaffe introduces his SPARO Behavioral Loop—stimulus, perception, activation, response, outcome—to show how emotions and...
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EFR 921: Why You People-Please: Understanding the Fawning Trauma Response (Toxic Hope vs Reality) with Dr. Ingrid Clayton
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This episode is brought to you by , and You’ve probably heard of the trauma responses fight, flight, and freeze — but there’s a fourth response that may be shaping your life without you even realizing it: fawning. In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Ingrid Clayton, PhD a clinical psychologist, trauma therapist, and author of , to understand why people-pleasing, over-accommodating, and self-abandonment are not personality flaws — they’re intelligent survival responses your nervous system learned to keep you safe. You’ll learn how fawning develops when fight, flight, or...
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EFR 920: The Hidden Chemicals in “Healthy” Foods You Must Avoid and Why Europe Bans These Food Ingredients (But America Allows Them) with Julia Putzeys
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This episode is brought to you by , and What if the foods you believe are “healthy” are quietly driving chronic inflammation, hormonal disruption, and behavioral issues in children? Julia Putzeys is here to expose the truth about ultra-processed foods, misleading food labels, artificial dyes, seed oils, and chemical additives hiding in plain sight. Julia breaks down why front-of-package marketing is designed to mislead consumers, how certain ingredients are still legal in the U.S. but banned abroad, and why simply “hitting your macros” is not the same as eating real, nourishing food....
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EFR 919: The Gut–Brain–Immune Connection: The New Science of Inflammation and Why You Can’t Heal the Gut Without Healing the Mind with Will Bulsiewicz
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This episode is brought to you by , , and In this powerful conversation, Dr. Will Bulsiewicz, MD joins Ever Forward Radio to explore why true healing goes far beyond food, supplements, and exercise—and into the nervous system, emotional health, and human connection. Drawing from his new book , Will explains how inflammation is driven by an inseparable triad of gut microbiome imbalance, immune dysfunction, and a compromised gut barrier, while also revealing how chronic stress, unresolved trauma, loneliness, and circadian disruption can prevent the body from ever feeling safe enough to...
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EFR 918: Your Home Is Affecting Your Mental Health - How Clutter Raises Stress & What to Do About It with Sabrina Soto
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This episode is brought to you by and Today we sit down with interior designer, TV host, and wellness advocate Sabrina Soto to explore how our homes profoundly shape our mental health, nervous system, relationships, and sense of identity. Sabrina shares her deeply personal journey—from growing up in chaos and creating a safe haven as a teenager, to landing her first HGTV role through a Craigslist ad—and explains why design isn’t about trends or perfection, but alignment. This episode explores the emotional weight of clutter, how environment influences cortisol and stress, why...
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EFR 917: Nervous System Mastery: The Secret to Elite Performance and How to Perform Under Pressure (Without Burning Out) with Natalie Hummel
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This episode is brought to you by , and In this episode of Ever Forward Radio, performance coach Natalie Hummel reframes what it truly means to be a high performer—arguing that excellence isn’t built through discipline, talent, or mindset alone, but through nervous system mastery. Natalie explains how fear, pressure, and self-sabotage are not problems to eliminate but sensations to build capacity for, and why separating sensation from story is the key to performing with ease under stress. Together, we will explore identity, upper limits, resilience, flow states, and what high...
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EFR 916: What to Do When God Feels Distant: Faith, Obedience, Healing, and the Search for Deeper Meaning with Apostle Kathryn Krick
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In this expansive and deeply personal conversation, we sit down with Apostle Kathryn Krick to explore faith, spiritual authority, healing, and what it truly means to live a life “ever forward.” Kathryn unpacks the biblical foundation of apostleship, the modern restoration of spiritual gifts, and her belief that healing, deliverance, and miracles are meant to be accessible today—not confined to Scripture. This episode examines demonic oppression versus possession, the power of words and faith in daily life, navigating wilderness seasons, and why gratitude and obedience are essential to...
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EFR 915: Why Money Is the #1 Reason Relationships Fail, Why You Should Never Fall in Love With Potential and Why Your Partner Is Your Biggest Financial Decision with Pattie Ehsaie
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This epsiode is brought ot you by , Audible and What if the most important financial decision you ever make has nothing to do with investing, real estate, or your career—but who you choose as your partner? In this powerful episode of Ever Forward Radio, Chase sits down with attorney, financial expert, and author Pattie Ehsaie for a no-nonsense conversation about money, power, relationships, and financial independence—especially for women. Pattie breaks down why “never falling in love with potential” isn’t cold, it’s practical; why money remains the number one cause of relationship...
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EFR 914: The Hidden Triggers of Cancer: What 95% of Us Are Getting Wrong About Health with Elissa Goodman
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This epsiode is brought ot you by , , and After healing from Hodgkin’s lymphoma in her 30s, Elissa Goodman turned her personal health crisis into a lifelong mission: helping others prevent and recover from cancer through holistic nutrition and mindful living. In this episode, she opens up about her journey from stress-driven corporate life to deep healing through green juicing, plant-based eating, and inner work like yoga, trauma release, and plant medicine. Elissa discusses how trauma, inflammation, and our toxic environment create the “cancer terrain”—and how we can reverse it with...
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You’ve probably heard of the trauma responses fight, flight, and freeze — but there’s a fourth response that may be shaping your life without you even realizing it: fawning.
In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Ingrid Clayton, PhD a clinical psychologist, trauma therapist, and author of Fawning, to understand why people-pleasing, over-accommodating, and self-abandonment are not personality flaws — they’re intelligent survival responses your nervous system learned to keep you safe.
You’ll learn how fawning develops when fight, flight, or freeze aren’t available — especially in childhood, unequal power dynamics, toxic relationships, and work environments where your safety or stability feels at risk. You’ll also discover how living in a chronic fawn response can quietly disconnect you from your needs, your voice, your body, and your sense of self.
This conversation helps you recognize why “just setting boundaries” often feels impossible, why you may disappear in relationships, and why choosing yourself can feel terrifying even when you know something needs to change. Most importantly, you’ll hear why none of this means something is wrong with you — you make sense.
If you’ve been stuck in survival mode, waiting for permission, approval, or safety outside yourself, this episode will help you understand what’s been happening beneath the surface — and how you can begin moving forward by reconnecting with who you truly are.
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00:00 – Introducing the “Fourth F”: What Is Fawning?
02:16 – Why Fawning Is Not a Conscious Choice
03:40 – Power, Safety, and Why Fight or Flight Aren’t Always Options
07:43 – Living in Chronic Survival Mode
09:27 – When Fawning Becomes Your “Personality”
12:09 – Empaths, Hypervigilance, and Nervous System Trauma
13:40 – Apologizing to People Who Hurt You
16:22 – Befriending Bullies as De-Escalation
20:29 – Gender, Power, and Why Context Matters
24:03 – Ignoring a Partner’s Bad Behavior
26:43 – Toxic Hope vs Reality
28:27 – Presence as a Path Out of Fawning
31:24 – Reality as a Regulating Force
35:02 – Fawning in the Workplace & Overgiving
37:26 – Choosing Yourself for the First Time
40:29 – Becoming Who You Already Are
43:56 – Why “Just Set Boundaries” Fails Trauma Survivors
48:02 – Listening to Yourself as the Path Forward
51:12 – Writing Fawning & Seeing the Bigger System
55:06 – Somatic Tools to Regulate the Nervous System
01:02:27 – Health Costs of Chronic Fawning
01:04:03 – Self-Abandonment Explained
01:06:19 – What “Ever Forward” Means Through Trauma Healing
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