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319: Courage Over Fear, Leadership Lessons from Tesla and the Marines with Kristen Kavanaugh

Allyship in Action

Release Date: 11/16/2025

339: How Human Skills Unleash the Real Power of Generative AI with Anthony Salcito show art 339: How Human Skills Unleash the Real Power of Generative AI with Anthony Salcito

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It is such a wild time to be in the world of training and development, isn’t it? I’ve had this persistent hunch—call it a "zag" when everyone else is "zigging"—that as much as we’re obsessing over AI, the real secret sauce is still our human intuition . I recently sat down with Anthony Salcito from Coursera, and it turns out my hypothesis wasn't just wishful thinking. We’ve all seen those robotic AI outputs that sound like they’ve never actually lived a day in their lives, and while I’ve certainly fumbled through my share of prompt engineering, the data shows that our...

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338: What Equity is and How Enable it at Your Organization with Celeste Warren show art 338: What Equity is and How Enable it at Your Organization with Celeste Warren

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This week, Celeste Warren, a globally recognized thought leader, author, and former Fortune 100 Vice President, returns to discuss her latest book, The Truth About Equity. Celeste shares her insights on: Defining Equity: Moving beyond the buzzwords to understand equity as a pragmatic approach to meeting people where they are. The "Fence" Analogy: Exploring the systemic "isms" that create barriers and how acts of equity can help dismantle them. Equity in the Workplace: From recruitment and talent development to succession planning and performance management, Celeste identifies key...

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337: How to Use History and Personal Gifts to Rise and Resist with Dr. Janice Gassam Asare show art 337: How to Use History and Personal Gifts to Rise and Resist with Dr. Janice Gassam Asare

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In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Janice Gassam Asare, founder of BWG Business Solutions and author of the new book, Rise and Resist: How to Reclaim Workplace Equity and Justice .  Following a period of intense personal and professional backlash—including being targeted by high-profile political figures—Janice discusses why looking to historical legacies of resistance is the key to enduring today’s challenging DEI landscape. We explore how "everything is cyclical" and how we can draw strength from the stories of lesser-known figures who challenged the status quo long before...

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336: Navigating Change in the Allyship Journey with Jennifer Brown show art 336: Navigating Change in the Allyship Journey with Jennifer Brown

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Jennifer Brown is back to unpack her new book, The Shape of Change, the journey through allyship and change. Together, we discuss: How change can feel like being in a dark hallway and trying to find the path forward in uncertain times What inclusive leadership looks like when we are called to be brave in unprecedented times The tools to build resilience to shape the changes necessary to our important work Follow Jennifer and get her book at https://jenniferbrownspeaks.com/

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335: Leading Without Hallways, Building Culture with Teresa Johnson show art 335: Leading Without Hallways, Building Culture with Teresa Johnson

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Culture isn't just a poster on the wall. Culture is the heartbeat of a thriving business. This interview with Teresa Johnson, CEO of Color Me Mine, explores the incredible journey from being a single mom to purchasing a pottery studio on a credit card, leading a franchise empire of over 150 locations. Teresa shares her secret sauce for scaling businesses through intentional culture and the unique challenges of leading remote teams across the country. Key Takeaways Leading Without Hallways: Building culture in a remote or franchised environment requires a new leadership skillset. Teresa...

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334: Men at Work with Jennifer McCollum show art 334: Men at Work with Jennifer McCollum

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In this episode, Julie Kratz welcomes Jennifer McCollum, President and CEO of Catalyst, a global nonprofit focused on workplace equity. They discuss the critical role of men in gender partnership and the release of Jennifer’s book, Men at Work. The conversation delves into the systemic challenges women face, the data supporting inclusive leadership, and how men can transition from passive support to active, mutually accountable leadership. Key Takeaways   Mutual Accountability Over Passive Support: The concept of "men as allies" has evolved into gender partnership, emphasizing that...

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333: How Capacity Erosion Is Redefining Leadership in 2026 with Kathryn Landis  show art 333: How Capacity Erosion Is Redefining Leadership in 2026 with Kathryn Landis

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In this episode of Allyship in Action, Julie Kratz is joined by HBR writer, executive and team coach, Kathryn Landis, to explore capacity erosion—the gradual depletion of energy and focus facing today’s leaders. In an era of constant change and cognitive overload, Landis shares how leaders can reclaim their impact by shifting from micromanagement to intentional empowerment and strategic reflection. Key Takeaways Focus on Your "$100 Activities": Leaders often gravitate toward low-impact tasks for a quick sense of productivity. Reclaiming capacity requires identifying the high-level...

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332: The Future of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) with Alyssa Dver show art 332: The Future of Employee Resource Groups (ERGs) with Alyssa Dver

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Alyssa Dver, founder of the ERG Leadership Alliance, joins us this week to highlight the critical shift toward structured governance and the use of hard metrics to demonstrate how these groups drive corporate engagement and long-term business impact. My Key Takeaways: Governance is the future of ERGs: Alyssa emphasizes the shift from informal groups to structured organizations with clear governance and professional development paths for leaders. Measurement is mandatory: To gain executive buy-in and sustainability, ERG leaders must track metrics ranging from membership growth and event...

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331: How to Nurture Workplace Culture as a Living Ecosystem with Abi Adamson show art 331: How to Nurture Workplace Culture as a Living Ecosystem with Abi Adamson

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In this episode, Julie Kratz discusses global workplace culture strategies with Abi Adamson, founder of the Culture Partnership and a LinkedIn Top Voice. Abi introduces her "SERN" framework—Soil, Exposure, Roots, and Nutrients—as a way for leaders to move beyond performative DE&I and begin gardening their organizations for sustainable growth. Three Key Takeaways Cultivate Your Culture Like a Living Ecosystem. Instead of treating culture like a static construction project with a fixed end date, leaders should act as gardeners who constantly tend to the environment. "Organizations still...

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330: Beyond DEI, Fixing Workplace Fairness with the FAIR Framework with Lily Zheng show art 330: Beyond DEI, Fixing Workplace Fairness with the FAIR Framework with Lily Zheng

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Lily Zheng is a no-nonsense DEI strategist and best-selling author of DEI Deconstructed and Fixing Fairness. They discuss the limitations of traditional Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI) initiatives and introduce Lily’s FAIR framework: Fairness, Access, Inclusion, and Representation. Lily challenges the industry’s reliance on "one-and-done" training and advocates for a 90/10 split—prioritizing system-level changes over individual interventions. This conversation is a masterclass for leaders who want to move beyond performative buzzwords to create workplaces that truly work for...

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Kristen Kavanaugh is the author of Courage Over Fear and the founder of The Agency Initiative, working to connect people's work with meaning in alignment with their values. Previously, she was the vice chair of the Defense Advisory Committee on Diversity & Inclusion and the senior director of inclusion, talent & learning at Tesla. Here are my key takeaways:

  • Values Dissonance Drives Talent Away: The conflict between personal values and the actions or culture of a company—especially at the leadership level—causes significant personal distress and ultimately leads to attrition. Kavanaugh described experiencing anxiety and physical symptoms, including panic attacks, that her body was trying to communicate to her before she left her role at Tesla. She emphasized that listening to those internal signals is crucial and that her health immediately improved once she made the decision to leave the toxic environment. For organizations, this highlights that failing to align with and uphold core values will physically and mentally harm employees, particularly those with less privilege, leading to the loss of valuable talent.

  • Courageous Leadership and Psychological Safety are Key to DEI Success: DEI work thrives when leadership models courage and takes a clear stand on inclusion. Kavanaugh, who led the DEI team, noted that when the CEO began making public statements that were antithetical to the work they were doing, it caused deep pain and was the "start of the unravelling" of DEI at the company. This demonstrated that leadership's visible choice of "courage over fear"—especially by those with power and privilege (the "decision calculus" factor)—is necessary to foster a culture where all employees, particularly underrepresented groups, feel safe and valued enough to stay.

  • Retention and Growth is Built on Small, Consistent Acts of Agency (The 5% Approach): The concept of the "Agency Loop" highlights that a healthy professional life is a cycle of authenticity, intentional decision-making, and growth. The key to starting and sustaining this cycle is the "5% more courageous approach," which breaks down intimidating acts of courage into small, manageable steps. For workplace retention, this means that cultural change and a sense of agency aren't just about massive, high-risk confrontations; they are built through everyday choices, such as a manager creating space for honest dialogue or an employee simply dressing in a way that feels authentic to them. These small, consistent actions compound over time to build resilience and a stronger, more authentic leader and employee.

Follow Kristen at https://www.courageoverfearbook.com/.