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343: Discovering Joy and Autonomy in the C-Suite with Sabrina Calouri

Allyship in Action

Release Date: 05/03/2026

357: Why We Avoid the Very Thing That Makes Us Happy at Work with Nick Epley show art 357: Why We Avoid the Very Thing That Makes Us Happy at Work with Nick Epley

Allyship in Action

As an author and allyship advocate, I constantly find myself researching the power of human connection, yet I still fall into the same social traps as everyone else!  We all intellectually know that relationships are vital to our health and happiness, yet we consistently talk ourselves out of simple, daily opportunities to connect. In this episode, I had the absolute pleasure of chatting with Nicholas Epley, behavioral science professor and author of A Little More Social. Nick's research translates complex social cognition into real, actionable insights that completely reframed how I...

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356: How to Build a Gender Fair Workplace with Brad Johnson and David Smith show art 356: How to Build a Gender Fair Workplace with Brad Johnson and David Smith

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I was so thrilled to sit down again with my dear friends and true allies, Dave Smith and Brad Johnson . Every time we connect, it feels like a warm reminder of what sustained, meaningful allyship really looks like—not just showing up when it’s trending, but doing the steady, daily work that actually moves the needle.  Listening to them walk through their allyship trilogy, from Athena Rising to The Good Guys and now their latest book, Fair Share, brought back so many memories of my own journey navigating corporate America as a new mom. (Trust me, I’ve shed my fair share of tears...

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355: Moving Male Allyship Forward in the Age of AI and the Manosphere with Robert Baker show art 355: Moving Male Allyship Forward in the Age of AI and the Manosphere with Robert Baker

Allyship in Action

If you’ve ever found yourself scrolling through social media, wondering if we are somehow slipping backward into the dark ages of workplace dynamics, you are definitely not alone. It is easy to look at the massive rise of toxic online ecosystems and feel a bit of existential dread. That is why I talked with Robert Baker, who always grounds me. He has this incredible gift for taking a heavy, whack-a-mole topic and infusing it with actionable clarity. We dive deep into why male allyship isn't about being an individual superhero, how global shifts are impacting our teams, and why—despite the...

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354: Bringing Psychological Safety to Life for Leaders with Minette Norman and Karolin Helbig show art 354: Bringing Psychological Safety to Life for Leaders with Minette Norman and Karolin Helbig

Allyship in Action

How do we actually live out psychological safety, rather than just talking about it as some grand, academic theory? A couple of years ago, Minette Norman and Karolin Helbig came out with the Psychological Safety Playbook. I’ve been using her practical phrases in my own training sessions ever since (with full credit, of course!). But as any facilitator, parent, or human being knows, putting this stuff into practice is darn hard. You want to be the supportive expert, but then real-world pressures—like meeting targets, sudden organizational shifts, or just plain old fear of looking...

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353: Behind the Shiny Objects: Real Inclusivity in a Changing World with Katryn Wright show art 353: Behind the Shiny Objects: Real Inclusivity in a Changing World with Katryn Wright

Allyship in Action

You might remember Katryn from episode 292, where we dove deep into the behavioral blueprint for inclusion. Well, a lot can happen in a year—or in our current case, since the wild ride of the 2026 election—and the DEI landscape is shifting beneath our feet. I’ll admit, when I first started this work ten years ago, I thought we could just shout from the rooftops that inclusion matters and everyone would just magically get it. But as we look at the headlines today, it’s clear that "shiny object syndrome" has left us with a lot of noise and not enough real, systemic change. Katryn and I...

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352: Better Leadership Starts with a Better Night of Sleep with Dr. Carlos Nunez show art 352: Better Leadership Starts with a Better Night of Sleep with Dr. Carlos Nunez

Allyship in Action

Sad to admit, after 350+ episodes, I have never dedicated a full show to sleep . I’ll be the first to admit that I’ve been doing a ton of deep-diving into sleep lately. Between life changes, career shifts, and navigating perimenopause, my nights haven’t exactly been peaceful . In fact, coming off a rough night myself, I’m sitting here with a massive afternoon coffee, fully aware that I reached for a sugary lunch to get through the slump! We’ve all been trapped in that vicious cycle, right ? But today, we are busting the toxic, old-school corporate narrative that sleeping is lazy or...

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351: How to Speak Up and Get Your Voice Heard at Work with Daniel Newton show art 351: How to Speak Up and Get Your Voice Heard at Work with Daniel Newton

Allyship in Action

When I started my business, I wanted to create spaces where every single person felt seen, heard, and like they truly belonged . It sounds so beautifully simple on the surface, doesn't it? But as we all know, making sure people feel heard at work can get incredibly messy . This week, I had the absolute pleasure of chatting with a peer of mine from grad school, Daniel Newton, an Associate Professor at the University of Iowa, whose research on workplace engagement is quite literally out of this world . He’s spent years studying how people speak up and stay engaged, working with everyone from...

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350: How to Lead Values-Based Decision Making with Jenny Bates Heaton show art 350: How to Lead Values-Based Decision Making with Jenny Bates Heaton

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Jenny Bates Heaton is the founder of Bates Leadership and has a brilliant new TEDx talk. What really blew me away during our chat was how Jenny used her personal journey facing a massive medical decision after a cancer-risk mutation diagnosis to completely rewrite the script on how we make choices. It got me thinking about my own life and how often we make decisions based on what we think we should do, rather than what aligns with our deepest values. For me, everything comes back to fairness, justice, and a whole lot of strength. When things feel off-balance in the world, my mental health...

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349: Driving Change from the Inside Out with Tara Jaye Frank show art 349: Driving Change from the Inside Out with Tara Jaye Frank

Allyship in Action

If you are feeling a bit battered by the cultural waves and political turbulence swirling around us right now, trust me—you are not alone. I’ll admit, when I woke up the morning after the 2024 election, I felt physically sick worrying about what the fallout would mean for our businesses and the hard choices ahead. That is why I love this conversation with Tara Jaye Frank. She met me right in that messy space with the ultimate reframe, sharing a beautiful story about how a simple grocery delivery from a man named Socrates gave her the title for her new book, You Are Before the World. It is...

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348: Why AI Is Not a Replacement for Human Talent with Christopher Lind show art 348: Why AI Is Not a Replacement for Human Talent with Christopher Lind

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This week, we dive deep into a topic that’s been on everyone’s mind—and probably in every news alert you’ve received lately: AI. While the world seems to be split between AI will save us all, and AI is coming for our jobs, our guest and AI expert, Christopher Lind, brings us back to earth with a much-needed reality check. As Christopher points out, the real risk isn't just the tech itself, but the disconnect between leadership's lofty expectations and the actual human experience on the ground. He often jokes about AI being a hammer looking for a nail, but in our rush to be efficient,...

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Welcome back, everyone! I am just so thrilled to share my conversation with Sabrina Caluori, the CMO at Chief. You know, I talk a lot about capacity erosion—that feeling where your mental load is so heavy you're basically walking through quicksand while trying to run a marathon.

Sabrina gets it. She’s been in those high-stakes rooms at Paramount, hitting a wall of burnout so thick she didn't even have the words to name it yet. But what I love about her perspective is how she’s flipped the script, moving from stepping off the ladder to building a community that reminds us we aren't alone in the isolation of leadership.

We laughed about my grandma sleep schedule, but honestly, if we don't start treating our rest and autonomy as non-negotiable business assets, we’re just designing our own exhaustion.

Key Themes from the Conversation

  • The Evolution of Ambition and Autonomy. The narrative that women are losing ambition is simply untrue; rather, their needs have shifted toward seeking more control over their impact and schedules.

    "Women are still as ambitious as ever, but the kind of tenure of that ambition had evolved... what's different is its autonomy, and influence, and flexibility."

    Rest as a Strategic Business Tool. Prioritizing restorative time and white space is not a luxury but a biological and professional necessity for high-level problem solving.

    "We forget, as leaders, that actually that rest, that restorative time... is when, a lot of times, the best bigger, more kind of white space-type ideas come back."

    Solving Isolation Through Peer Community. Senior leadership can be incredibly isolating, and having a peer network outside of one’s own organizational chart is vital for sustained success.

    "Chief exists to solve isolation at the top... the ability to bring peers together to have the conversations that were so hard to have inside our org charts."

    Intentionality in the Age of AI. While technology is moving rapidly, women leaders are focusing on intentional leadership by prioritizing thoughtful deployment over mere speed.

    "We're putting intentional leadership first, over the speed of deployment... 80% of women are involved in leading AI efforts."

Actionable Takeaways

Audit your calendar for Thinking Time. Proactively block out small windows of time every single day to step away from your screen, reset your nervous system, and allow for the strategic white space your brain needs to lead effectively.

Know the real story. Chief's data confirms women can find joy and autonomy at work.
 
From the Chief/Harris Poll study on women's ambition: 
  • Women’s definition of ambition may be evolving, but their belief in the power of community remains constant. The study found that 93% of women believe they have the collective power to build new “centers of influence.”
  • 94% say being around other ambitious women fuels their own ambition.
  • Two-thirds believe their problem solving accelerates when brainstorming with other women leaders on business challenges.
From the most recent Chief/Harris Poll study on women and AI: 
  • 86% of women leaders say their peer network is a competitive advantage in the AI era.
  • 83% learn more from peer conversations about AI than from any formal training. 
  • 84% say they have made smarter AI-related decisions because of insights from their community