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Ninja Selling Podcast

Release Date: 08/04/2025

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Ninja Selling Podcast

Episode Summary In this special live episode of the Ninja Selling Podcast, Eric Thompson records in front of a live audience at the first Ninja Installation of 2026 in Fort Collins, Colorado. Eric is joined by Denver agent Dave Hettrick of RE/MAX Professionals and Dave’s Ninja Coach, Julie WIll. Dave had his best year yet in 2025, growing his business 62% year over year in a market that was essentially flat, and he broke through a major income milestone by earning just over $300,000 for the year. The central theme of the conversation is flow, specifically hyper flow, and how Dave creates...

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Episode Summary In this episode of the Ninja Selling Podcast, Rob Nelson and Eric Thompson break down “Ninja in a Nutshell”, offering a clear, high-level overview of what Ninja Selling is, why it exists, and how it works. Designed for listeners who want a straightforward starting point, this conversation distills the Ninja philosophy into its core components, avoiding jargon and hype. Rob explains that Ninja Selling is a complete operating system for a sales business, combining proven methods for generating business with a relationship-centered approach to serving clients. Together,...

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In this episode, Eric Thompson sits down with Stephanie Peterson, a dedicated Ninja Realtor® from Spokane, Washington. With 11 years of experience and an incredible ability to generate over $200,000 annually working just 20 hours a week, Stephanie shares how living intentionally, staying in flow, and focusing on relationships has completely transformed her life and business. Episode Summary Stephanie Peterson, a long-time Ninja and real estate professional with Windermere City Group, has built a highly efficient and relationship-driven business centered around a select group of 100 people....

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Eric Thompson is joined by husband-and-wife Ninjas Jeremy and Shanon Johnson, retired Air Force veterans turned real estate professionals, to explore how this dynamic duo built a purpose-driven business rooted in discipline, structure, and service. From military precision to Ninja mastery, the Johnsons have created a thriving business in Hampton Roads, Virginia, closing 44 transactions in 2024 while maintaining balance, harmony, and joy in their personal lives. This conversation delves into what it takes to run a business intentionally as a couple, rather than by accident or exhaustion. Jeremy...

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Rob sits down with a powerhouse panel made up of Spears Group’s Founder, Jonathan Spears, and its COO, Maria Coukoulis, both of whom are also co-founders of MyOps AI, and Larry Kendall, the author of Ninja Selling, to discuss a pivotal moment in every successful real estate agent's career. Together, this all-star team tackles the critical crossroads agents face: whether to continue as a solo producer or to build a high-performing real estate team.   This conversation goes deep into the nuts and bolts of scaling a real estate business from the ground up. The group explores...

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Eric Thompson hosts a very special episode featuring none other than Matthew Gardner, one of North America's leading real estate economists. Together, they dive deep into the real estate market at the halfway point of the year, providing clarity and data-driven insights to help you navigate the current landscape.

Matthew cuts through the noise of media headlines, explaining why today’s market isn't crashing and what key metrics you should really be watching. From the surprising strength of home prices to the truth about inventory levels, this conversation provides the perspective needed to be a proactive, trusted advisor.

Discover the real driver behind mortgage rates (it’s not what you think!), learn about the impact of tariffs on new construction, and get Matthew’s forecast on transaction volume and interest rates for the coming years. This episode is packed with takeaways you can share directly with your clients to position yourself as a true market authority.

Episode Highlights:

  • An Introduction to Leading Real Estate Economist Matthew Gardner

  • A Mid-Year Check-In on the Market’s Vital Signs

  • Why Prices are at an All-Time High and What It Means

  • The Importance of Comparing Today’s Inventory to 2019, Not Last Year

  • Unpacking Why the Market is Not Going to Crash

  • The True Connection Between 30-Year Mortgage Rates and the 10-Year Treasury

  • Understanding the “Spread” and Why It’s Wider Than Normal

  • A Look Ahead at Where Interest Rates and Transaction Volume are Headed

  • How Tariffs and Global Economics are Impacting Housing Costs

  • Why New Construction is Now Directly Competing with the Resale Market

  • The Biggest Challenge Facing the Next Generation of First-Time Homebuyers

Key Takeaways:

"For well-priced and well-positioned houses, there is still demand."

"The terminal rate for 30-year fixed-rate mortgages is going to be around that 6 percent level."

"New construction is competing with the resale market."

"My biggest worry out there are our first-time buyers."

"If there was a crash, I would be screaming it from the rooftops, as I was in 2005. But I just don't see it."

"Twenty-seven percent of the things that go into a new-build home are imported from China."

"The median age of a first-time buyer last year was 38. It's supposed to be around 30, 31... Why? Because, again, affordability."

"It's not the amazing market that you saw over the course of coming out of COVID, but there is still a market."

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