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Why coaching beats training for lasting leadership impact

The Enlightened Family Business Podcast

Release Date: 12/16/2024

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The Enlightened Family Business Podcast

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Why Coaching Beats Training for Lasting Leadership Impact

with Ted Kulawiak, Kristi Baxter, & Thomas

Ted Kulawiak is a highly respected sought-after sales management, leadership coach, and business consultant. As the president of Ted Kaye Sales Management Training LLC, Ted utilizes his significant business experience coupled with a personalized and innovative problem-solving approach to guide clients to reach their desired business goals.

He held senior sales leadership and training positions in advertising and media over the course of 25 years, the majority of which he spent working for the 3M Company.

Post advertising career, Ted transitioned to higher education and enjoyed a 20-year career in executive leadership positions.

In addition to his leadership and coaching consulting work, Ted teaches English at the local community college.

 

Kristi Baxter is a mind shifter, mental fitness trainer and thought partner to extraordinary individuals. As a trusted guide she helps people identify and purse a created life, by clarifying goals, identifying, and removing self-imposed obstacles and creating the space to make magic. Her superpower is helping people change the lens through which they experience their life. When not working, Kristi loves spending time with her family, hiking, biking, boating, beaching, cooking, creating, traveling, and laughing out loud.

 

Thomas is our Optimal Vision Coach, aka The Optimalogist. His superpower is his incredible

insightfulness and unique ability to see the best in others when they can’t. He helps clients to refocus and get clear about their Vision and Purpose in their work and life while getting clear of the invisible restraints that keep them from being, living and giving their best.

When not working, Thomas enjoys sports, music, and travel

 

What You’ll Learn

      The importance of doing the deeper work.

      How firms could navigate training resources.

      How to find the right person to coach.

      How to vet a consulting firm.

 

Timestamps

·       [04:45] A bit about Ted.

·       [05:33] A bit about Tom.

·       [07:14] A bit about Kristi.

·       [11:20] The importance of doing the deeper work.

·       [15:19] Solving performance problems.

·       [19:54] Navigating training resources.

·       [23:33] The value of coaching.

·       [26:53] Work-life balancing.

·       [32:40] Key attributes of future executives.

·       [37:04] The impact of 360’s.

·       [45:50] Interviewing a consulting firm.

·       [51:50] Thinking about ROI.

 

Memorable Quotes

·       “Coaching is not something you half-ass.” – Kristi Baxter [34:34]

·       “They will leave companies if there’s not a path to development.” – Kristi Baxter [53:41]

 

Websites

fambizforum.com.

www.chrisyonker.com.

Ted Kulawiak.

www.kristibaxter.com.

thomashuebl.com.