Methylene Blue: The Most Misunderstood Molecule in Medicine? (Dr. John Lieurance)
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Release Date: 08/26/2025
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[01:20] Can Methylene Blue Heal "Incurable" Diseases?
- Why methylene blue was originally used in medicine to cure malaria.
- How methylene blue can cure cancer and Alzheimer's.
- Why Big Pharma didn't manage to create a cure for Alzheimer's.
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- MitoZen - 10% off with the code WELLNESSFORCE
- Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
- Chase Hughes on The Joe Rogan Experience
- Paul Ehrlich
[11:55] Death of Natural Medicine
- How Rockefeller used homeopathy in his personal practice.
- Why the Flexner report influenced the evolution of medicine.
- How most pharmaceuticals are based on petroleum.
- Why chiropractors didn't move into the pharmaceutical-based healing.
- How methylene blue turns on the brain.
- How red light therapy combined with methylene blue IV helped Covid patients.
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[16:50] Get Light into Your Cells
- Why methylene blue is blue.
- How we can receive photons through methylene blue.
- Why we can take methylene blue without sunlight or red light therapy.
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[19:25] How to Strengthen The Blue Spot
- The role of the locus coeruleus (blue spot).
- How the hormone norepinephrine helps us navigate stress.
- Why methylene blue strengthens the blue spot.
- How we can alter PTSD and phobias using methylene blue.
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[24:50] Is Methylene Blue Toxic?
- How methylene blue is made from petroleum but it's not toxic.
- Why methylene blue elevates mood and mitochondrial capacity.
- Who can benefit from taking methylene blue.
- How 86% of methylene blue converts to white color.
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[32:00] New Biohacking Protocol
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- The benefits of combining red light therapy, oxygen, and methylene blue.
- Why most older men have a prostate issue and how it can be prevented and treated.
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[38:25] Muse Stem Cells: A Miracle in Medicine?
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- How Muse stem cells can support multigenerational stress endurance.
- Why stem cells can rebuild cartilage.
- How Muse stem cells eradicate cancer cells.
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[44:10] Melatonin for Healing Viral Infections
- How Covid was another Flexner moment.
- Why melatonin can solve viral infections.
- How Trump was using melatonin to heal from Covid.
- Why Dr. John had to censor his website.
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[49:55] Ivermectin for Covid Detoxification
- How ivermectin detoxes the body after Covid or the vaccine.
- Why spike protein can trigger other diseases.
- How ivermectin is very effective when used inter-nasally.
- Why Dr. John uses ivermectin in his products.
[54:45] Your New Wellness Practice
- The benefits of combining breathwork with the MitoZen spray.
- How gold, silver, and methylene blue in Blue Eyes drops can heal eye infections within a day.
- Dr. John's wellness practice using sun gazing, breathwork, and MitoZen products.
[59:30] Your Body Needs Support
- How MitoZen products have helped people with mold problems.
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- How we have more stressors than ever before.
- Why we need more patience with our bodies.
- How even alternative medicine practitioners may not focus on the root cause and only treat the symptoms.
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- Why a traumatic injury during a hurricane caused him to lose his leg.
- How he could see the blessing in the possibility of losing everything.
- Why he found a sense of peace within the chaos.
- How Dr. John finally chose to amputate his leg after 7 months of chronic pain.
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- How he allowed himself to feel and express the pain of his loss.
- Why there's joy on the other side of pain.
- How mental well-being is driven by unconscious thought energies.
- The purpose of the limbic system.
- How Dr. John has been working on removing his fear of death.
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- Dr. John Lieurance
- MitoZen - 10% off with the code WELLNESSFORCE
- Melatonin: Miracle Molecule by Dr. John Lieurance
- Chase Hughes on The Joe Rogan Experience
- Paul Ehrlich
- The Flexner Report
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- The Body Keeps the Score by Bessel van der Kolk
- Methylene Blue: Magic Bullet by Dr. John Lieurance
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- Ben Greenfield
- Dolphin Tale (2011)
- 744 Debra Silverman | Your Pain Has a Pattern… and Astrology Reveals It All (This Isn’t Random)
Power Quotes From Dr. John Lieurance
"Methylene blue has been shown to be neuroprotective. If you had a stroke and you're currently taking methylene blue, you wouldn't have much damage. If you had a heart attack while you're taking methylene blue, you're very much protected." — Dr. John Lieurance
"Our healthcare model, because it's been so biased with the money from Big Pharma, it's gotten out of control. And this does not limit itself to pharmaceuticals. You can get functional medicine doctors that do the same thing with natural solutions, but just treating symptoms and not actually getting down to the root cause." — Dr. John Lieurance
"Through methylene blue, we can feed photons into that system and actually get a boost in vitality and energy at a cellular level. It acts like a sponge to pull the photons into the mitochondria." — Dr. John Lieurance
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About Dr. John Lieurance
Naturopath and Chiropractic Neurologist, Dr. John Lieurance, has been in private practice for over 27 Years.
Currently, with Advanced Rejuvenation, a Multi-Disciplinary Clinic, with a focus on Alternative and Regenerative Medicine, Naturopathic Medicine, Chiropractic Functional Neurology, Functional Cranial Release (FCR), Lumomed, Lyme Disease, Mold Illness, and many other Neurological Conditions.
His treatments have been proven very successful in treating many chronic neurological and chronic infection conditions.
He believes that toxins and infections are at the root of many conditions, including Autoimmune, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s, Inner Ear Conditions, and most Degenerative Neurologic Conditions.