How I Healed An "Incurable" Disease Through Faith and Food (Brett Ender + Harry Gray)
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Release Date: 09/30/2025
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In This Episode, Brett Ender + Harry Gray Uncover:
[01:05] A New Way of Living
- How getting sick allowed Brett to make different choices.
- Why he felt different energy when he started a carnivore diet.
- How we can't out-workout a bad diet.
- Why he first wanted to go back to the same lifestyle that got him sick.
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[03:00] The Journey to Freedom + Incuring an Incurable Disease
- Why it's become more difficult to know who to take health advice from.
- What people seek from the Meat Mafia Podcast.
- Why carnivore diet is just a tool.
- How Brett healed his body and found God.
- Why doctors told him the disease was incurable.
- How he finally realized what got him sick.
- Why carnivore diet helped Brett heal.
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[10:20] Humans Are Designed to Worship
- How humans are designed to worship God.
- Why different world religions believe in the Genesis story.
- How religious stories expand our mind and beliefs.
- Why science is proving that God exists.
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[14:05] God Will Give You a Sign
- Why Harry believed God brought him and Brett together.
- How they decided to figure out a way to start a passion project.
- Why the physical stimuli are always shallow.
- What makes us chase the wrong things.
[19:20] God Has Your Back
- Why Brett is proud of his fear instead of being scared of what others will think.
- How God is working on each of our worries.
- Why the worst thing that ever happened to him became the catalyst for growth.
[21:45] Energy Is Felt
- How people don't buy just a product, but what the brand stands for.
- Why the market lacks honesty.
- How God only hears "yes."
- Why listening to our intuition implies taking risk.
- How fasting helps Harry to have heightened awareness.
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[30:00] Eat Smarter
- The importance of disconnecting and going for a walk to be more creative.
- Why God blessed us with powerful instincts.
- How unhealthy foods limit our capacity for intuition.
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[33:45] How Gut Health Influences Gut Feeling
- Why an unhealthy gut means our gut feeling is not working well.
- How Noble protein powder helps repair the gut.
- Why whey protein is a waste product of cheese and what protein to use instead.
- What causes bloating when we consume whey protein.
- The difference between beef protein and whey protein.
- Why protein powder is not an essential supplement.
- How Brett makes a 50g protein coffee.
[43:40] Organ Meat for Gut Repair
- Why most people have gut dysbiosis.
- How organs help us repair the gut.
- Why the US diet is much more unhealthy than in other countries.
- How they've been hiding the research about bovine liver proving to support human liver health.
- Why nature provides the most perfect food for us.
[47:05] From Anger to Purpose
- How Brett and Harry first tried to fight the norm.
- Why their goal is to get people in the new game instead of fighting what's not working.
- The importance of feeling our anger.
- How they transitioned from anger to purpose as a fuel for what they do.
[50:30] The Journey to Freedom and Truth
- Why anger is not contributing to anyone's mission in life.
- How Brett achieved autonomy over his life.
- Why the work helped him find mental freedom.
- Why Brett struggles with being judgmental.
- What makes people judge each other.
Resources:
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[01:01:20] "So What?"
- How a ketamine journey helped Josh be less judgmental.
- Why Brett's self-worth is tied to his professional success.
- How they wanted to create a product that makes people healthier.
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All Resources From This Episode
- The Meat Mafia
- Brett Ender
- Harry Gray
- Dr. Shawn Baker
- Inner Excellence by Jim Murphy
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- Eat Smarter by Shawn Stevenson
- 746 Marc Gafni | Why Soulmate Relationships Don’t Work: The Secret Whole Mate Code to Cosmic Love
- 365 Dr. Paul Saladino | Your Guide To The Carnivore Diet: The Myths of Eating Meat & Plants
- 071 Food Freedom Forever With Melissa Hartwig
Power Quotes From Brett Ender + Harry Gray
"I cured a disease by eating all the foods I was told not to eat. Because even when I was facing death, I still wasn't self self-aware enough to realize that the shit that I was doing was what got me sick. That journey was also the gateway that led me to God and it ended up being the biggest catalyst of all time." — Brett Ender
"Faith is spelled R-I-S-K. If you want to feel a gut feeling, you actually have to go take a risk and be willing to see the downside of your decision."" — Harry Gray
"You can't tap into your gut instinct if you have an inflamed gut. Think about all the inner work that your body is trying to do just to repair the inflammation that you've created as a result of your poor decisions." — Brett Ender
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About Brett Ender + Harry Gray
Harry Gray and Brett Ender are the cohosts of The Meat Mafia Podcast and cofounders of Noble Origins, a grass-fed protein company.
Together, they explore the intersection of food, faith, and freedom, challenging mainstream narratives around health while sharing their own journeys of healing and entrepreneurship.
From Harry’s deep dives into frameworks for faithful living to Brett’s powerful story of overcoming ulcerative colitis through nutrient-dense eating, their mission is to help others reclaim strength, sovereignty, and simplicity in modern life.
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