The Gospel of Direct Experience
In a world of failing traditions and crumbling institutions, the Gospel of Direct Experience is the living Spirit of Truth revealed through our senses, our intuitions, our dreams, and our visions. Where orthodoxy meets heresy, religion meets the paranormal, and the physical meets the psychic… the Spirit calls us to transcend our inherited dogmas and second-hand stories, waking up to the power, the meaning, and the mystery that are alive and vibrant within us and beyond us. Join hosts Jeff Mansfield and Michael Ellick for a conversation transcending the boundaries of the conventional world.
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Knowledge Must Bow to Spirit: A Journey with George Inness
04/30/2025
Knowledge Must Bow to Spirit: A Journey with George Inness
What if a long-dead painter could reach across time to guide your spiritual awakening? In this episode, Jeff shares the astonishing true story of how George Inness—a 19th-century landscape artist and mystic—emerged as a living spirit guide in his life. From a chance encounter at a museum to a series of visionary dreams filled with barns, handprints, and transfigured light-beings, Jeff and Michael explore how spirit invites us to see beyond appearances, surrender our over-love of knowledge, and walk the ancient, living path of direct experience. This is an episode about listening deeply, following the signs, and allowing Spirit to lead the way. Episode Highlights [00:00:47] Introduction: Bringing Gnostic Texts into Real Life Jeff reflects on the show’s evolution toward the personal and devotional, emphasizing the need to live these spiritual insights rather than just study them. [00:03:05] A Spirit Encounter at the Montclair Art Museum Jeff shares the powerful experience of being arrested by George Inness’ words—“Knowledge must bow to spirit”—and the unfolding realization that Inness had something vital to teach him. [00:08:11] Bypassing the Theopoetic Middlemen Jeff critiques the academic appropriation of theopoetics and makes the case for going straight to the poets and artists themselves—those who embody mystery, not just define it. [00:14:31] Direct Experience and the Mission of Art Jeff reads Inness’s reflections on memory, beauty, and art’s mission to reveal the unseen—sparking connections to spiritual practice and preaching. [00:19:43] Dream One: Entering the Haunted Barn Jeff recounts a vivid dream where a mysterious three-fingered hand points to a dark doorway and an optical device, leading to a transformation. [00:27:18] Dream Analysis: The Role of Vision and Witnessing Jeff and Michael explore the symbolism of the optical device, the three-fingered hand, and the barn owner’s transfiguration—uncovering profound insights about spiritual sight and bearing witness to change. [00:39:59] Deeper Symbolism: The Barn, the Handprints, and the Call to Ministry Jeff recalls that the summer he first heard his call to ministry, he was living in a barn—and left his handprint on its wall. The dream becomes a bridge across time, connecting his present awakening with his spiritual origins. [00:43:53] Confirming the Connection: Finding George Inness' Barn Jeff shares the culmination of his search for George Inness’ physical traces—finding the land where Inness’s farmhouse and barn once stood, affirming the deep personal connection to his spirit guide. Connect Visit our . While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments
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Waking Up: Dreams, Enlightenment, and the Space Between
04/16/2025
Waking Up: Dreams, Enlightenment, and the Space Between
What if waking up isn’t a single breakthrough moment—but a layered, looping journey through insight, fear, wonder, and mystery? In this episode, we explore the complex terrain of spiritual awakening through dreams, false awakenings, mystical encounters, and moments of terrifying clarity. From Michael’s lucid Spirit Train dream to Jeff’s powerful visitation from a fierce divine feminine presence, we ask: What does it really mean to wake up—is it a one time affair or is it a journey, a process? We dig into the paradoxes of awakening: how it can feel ecstatic or annihilating, grounding or destabilizing—and how most of us live in the space between. Along the way, we talk about Kundalini energy, inflation, ontological shock, the fear of God, and the danger of mistaking glimpses of the Real for the whole story. This episode is about learning to live with grace and curiosity in the middle ground—where waking up is not an arrival, but a way of being. Episode Highlights [00:00:49] Waking Up on the Spirit Train To get us going, we review Michael's "Spirit Train" dream and the multiple instances of "waking up" within it? The lines between dreaming, waking, illusion, and reality are appropriately blurred. Is waking up a one-time affair or does it transition us between states? [00:06:57] Red Goddess Kundalini Jeff recounts a dream in which he met a goddess who tried to awaken and/or annihilate him and he had to run like hell to save himself. Do we really want the awakening we think we want? Do we really know what it will cost us? [00:15:49] Terror and Illumination Is waking up always "good?" When it's "bad," is that always bad? Once again we trace the line that runs at once both through terror and illumination. [00:27:08] Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God Docuseries Discussion Can waking up lead to trouble in your life? We discuss the docuseries Love Has Won: The Cult of Mother God which you can watch on Max. [00:42:02] The Profound Middle Ground Can we both awake and embedded in the dream at the same time? In that in-between what might be possible? [00:52:07] The Sea of Consciousness Endeavoring to treat everything with dignity, respect, and love in late-stage matter deconstruction. [01:01:07] The Perception of the Heart and Loving the Middle Ground Do we wake up in the head? Or in the heart? Visit our . While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Episode Artwork:
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Searching for a God We Will Never Find with John Hamilton
04/02/2025
Searching for a God We Will Never Find with John Hamilton
What happens when the walls of traditional religion crumble, and all that’s left is raw, unfiltered awe? In this episode we sit down with John Hamilton—UCC minister, musician, and author of the excellent theological memoir Honest to God. Guided by the book, the three of us dive into the chaos and beauty of spiritual awakening in an era of collapsing institutions. John Hamilton was born into a spirited Irish-American family of singers and storytellers. Breaking with his strict Catholic upbringing, he embarked on a career in music that immersed him in the colorful but dangerous world of drugs, alcohol, and rock clubs. A debilitating onset of panic disorder abruptly halted his musical pursuits, propelling him into the business world where he thrived as a creative director in advertising. Despite professional success, Hamilton's persistent quest for the transcendent led him to seminary and, eventually, to two decades of parish work as a pastor. His most recent book, Honest To God, chronicles the collapse of mainstream Christianity, his loss of connection to the transcendent and his walk into the wilderness to search for it again. He maintains an active presence on , has 25,000 followers on , and another book, “The Weight of Snow” in the works for 2026. If you’ve ever felt the holy ground shake beneath your feet or wondered how to find meaning when the old gods fall, this conversation is for you. Episode Highlights [00:04:50] Rock & Roll—The Hot Wire to God A conversation on music and spirit. If you're a rock musician, why be a minister at all? [00:12:35] Awe A reading from the book gets into one of the major themes of the book—awe, the relationship of one's seminary training to a one's experience of awe, John's experience of staring into the abyss during his wife's medial emergency, and the negative or apophatic approach to God. [00:26:15] Nontheism Another reading from the book gets us into a discussion of John's identity as a nontheist (as opposed to an atheist), God's identity and nature, prayer, miracles, and direct spiritual experience. [00:41:56] The Collapse of Mainstream Christianity We talk about John's experience closing churches, the worldview collapse the accompanies the collapse of the Church, a reading from the book about John's earliest memory (of a church burning down), and what could or should replace the loss of churches. [01:02:20] Searching for a God We Will Never Find A final, triumphant reading captures the heart of the book and leads us into a concluding discussion of why Jeff left his last church position in September 2024. Continue the Conversation What did you think about this conversation? Tell us at or reach out at: .
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The Homa & the Chapel Perilous
03/19/2025
The Homa & the Chapel Perilous
What happens when you call on Jesus in an ancient Vedic fire ritual? Will he show up? How? In this episode, Michael shares his experience with Homa, a Vedic fire ceremony, and what happened when he decided to dedicate it to Jesus. The result was an unfolding series of synchronicities—stretching across years, continents, and eventually even into the Spirit Train dream—culminating in a moment of undeniable presence. Meanwhile, we explore the Chapel Perilous, the threshold between belief and madness, where meaning breaks through in ways that can’t be ignored. We briefly summarize the Spirit Train dream at the top of the episode, but if you haven't listened to it yet, you might want to start two episodes back: All Aboard the Spirit Train This is one of the most powerful stories we’ve told yet. Join us as we wrestle with what it means to see, to trust, and to step into the fire. Read the time-stamped Episod Highlights, get recomendations on where to stay in Italy, and read the Works Cited in the full on the website. While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Read the latest blog post:
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Awaken in the Dream with Paul Levy
03/06/2025
Awaken in the Dream with Paul Levy
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All Aboard the Spirit Train: Dreams, Discernment, and Anxiety
02/26/2025
All Aboard the Spirit Train: Dreams, Discernment, and Anxiety
What if your anxieties weren’t obstacles but doorways? What if your dreams aren’t nonsense, but portals to deeper wisdom, hidden truths, and paths yet unseen? What if the very fears that keep you up at night are the same forces trying to wake you up? In this episode Michael recounts a dream of cosmic proportions—one that begins in the disorienting corridors of an ever-shifting church and ends aboard a song-filled dragon train soaring into the multiverse. Along the way, we wrestle with discernment, anxiety, and the unsettling realization that reality itself may be more dreamlike than we assume. Time-stamped Episode Highlights and a Works Cited in the on the website. While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Read the latest blog post:
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Star Wars, Hidden Histories, and the Stories That Shape Us with AJ Musewe
02/12/2025
Star Wars, Hidden Histories, and the Stories That Shape Us with AJ Musewe
Why do Star Wars, Harry Potter, and other sci-fi/fantasy stories resonate so deeply with us? What do they reveal about power, identity, and spirituality? In this episode of we sit down with historian and educator AJ Musewe to explore the power of myth, the narratives we inherit, and how reclaiming lost stories shapes our understanding of ourselves and the world. From the parallels between Anakin Skywalker and Harry Potter to the hidden histories of the Civil Rights movement, this conversation dives into how fantasy, sci-fi, and real-life struggles intersect in our search for meaning. Time-stamped Episode Highlights in the on the website. While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Read the latest blog post: About Our Guest: AJ Musewe is a passionate community educator deeply dedicated to preserving unvarnished Black history and culture. Specializing in designing and managing interactive educational programs, AJ has a profound knack for creating immersive experiences that connect the dots between the past and present. Her role as the founder of With Reverence Co-op exemplifies her innovative approach, offering dynamic educational sessions that delve into sustainable actions and foster community connections through storytelling and historical tours. These sessions often focus on Black culture and heritage, underscoring AJ’s commitment to celebrating and understanding the profound contributions of Black communities. AJ honed her educational strategies by focusing on education training programs and curricula to support neurodiverse and neurotypical learners, making history accessible and relevant. AJ’s extensive background also includes roles in equity consulting and community building, where she has facilitated critical discussions and engagements that bridge gaps in understanding and foster a collective commitment to justice and inclusivity. With her engaging manner and deep expertise, AJ continues to inspire and educate communities, guiding them toward a more enlightened and empathetic understanding of historical contexts and their impact on contemporary society, especially within Black communities. Where to find AJ: Papers For My Acres—a narrative podcast about history, culture, and the shared human experiences of the Black diaspora. IG: @Ajandthebeanies Website:
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Consciousness & the Cross (D.B.Y.D. Pt. 2)
02/05/2025
Consciousness & the Cross (D.B.Y.D. Pt. 2)
Is the self an illusion—or something real and necessary? If we must die before we die, what is it that actually dies? In this follow-up to Dying Before You Die, hosts Michael Ellick and Jeff Mansfield wrestle with the paradox of selfhood, consciousness, and crucifixion. Does awakening mean dissolving the ego, or is there something essential about our individuality? How did Jesus navigate this mystery, and what does it mean for us? From childhood mystical experiences to the Church’s to the potentially heretical path of theosis, we explore what it means to let go—and what remains when we do. Time-stamped Episode Highlights and Works Cited in the on the website. While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Read the latest blog posts:
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Dying Before You Die (Part 1)
01/22/2025
Dying Before You Die (Part 1)
Have you ever felt like every path you turn down leads to hell? In this episode, we explore the idea of dying before you die, a concept central to many of the world's religions and mystery traditions. Is it possible to face the terror of our own fragility and emerge transformed? What if the self you cling to is the very thing keeping you from true life? Join us as we face down Death with stories, poetry, and a dream about battling a creature that refuses to die. Time-stamped Episode Highlights and Works Cited in the on the website. While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Read the latest blog post:
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Rewilding the Soul: Wilderness, Apocalypse, Practice
01/15/2025
Rewilding the Soul: Wilderness, Apocalypse, Practice
What if our deepest spiritual experiences aren't found in churches or meditation halls, but in lonely wilderness and abandoned subway tunnels? In this week's episode, Michael and Jeff explore how their earliest encounters with the divine came through wandering in the woods, which later developed into seeking out the "in-between spaces" of disused urban landscapes. From a transformative 2,200-mile hike on the Appalachian Trail to trespass in the post-apocalyptic spaces of New York City, they reveal how conventional spiritual practices often try to recreate what wilderness and devastation free offer: direct contact with another world, hidden right next to our own. The conversation weaves together their experiences as ministers, meditation practitioners, and eternal seekers, examining the paradox of trying to cultivate through discipline what might be more readily available through surrender. Read the full on the website. While you're there: to keep up to date on the all the latest from us about your own experiences, questions, comments Read the latest blog post:
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Abducted by Direct Experience
01/08/2025
Abducted by Direct Experience
Is it possible to encounter something beyond the boundaries of our everyday reality? From mysterious UFO phenomena to encounters with supernatural beings, this episode explores the uncanny, the unexplained, and the power of the paranormal to transform us. What do these experiences mean, and what happens when they disrupt our tidy worldviews and safe spiritualities? Join us as we dive deep into personal stories, cultural myths, and spiritual traditions that connect the mundane with the mysterious. Main Topics The Ariel School UFO encounter Cross-cultural and historical accounts of encounters with beings from other dimensions. The spiritual, psychological, and physical impacts of modern UFO and contactee experiences. A deep dive into the Ariel School UFO encounter in Zimbabwe, its implications, and its lasting effects on the witnesses. The parallels between mystical religious experiences and contemporary UFO phenomena. Personal stories from Jeff and Michael about encounters with the uncanny, from shadowy beings to Bigfoot sightings. How modern worldviews shape and limit our understanding of these profound experiences. . While you're there, sign up for our mailing list to keep up to date on the all the lastest from the show and your hosts. We’d love to hear about your own experiences—reach out anytime via the website!
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The Gospel of Direct Experience
01/01/2025
The Gospel of Direct Experience
Episode Summary What happens when orthodoxy meets heresy, when mystery collides with gnosis, and when the physical and psychic worlds intertwine? In this inaugural episode of The Gospel of Direct Experience, we explore the transformative power of direct spiritual encounter. Through stories of our own life-altering moments—both mystical and terrifying—we illustrate the difference between abstract belief and raw, unmediated experience. Whether you’re a seeker of truth, a skeptic of dogma, or just curious about your own spiritual depths, we hope this conversation will challenge and inspire you. Main Topics Defining Direct Experience Personal Transformations Jeff's story of a spinal injury, a near-miraculous recovery, and a prayer that shaped his future. Michael's story of his dreamworld overtaking his real life, a confrontation with mortality, and its lasting impact on his spiritual path. The Role of Horror in Spiritual Awakening Dreams as Doorways to the Depths Navigating the Aftermath of Direct Encounters The Open Invitation As always, we encourage you, dear listeners, to seek and embrace your own direct experiences. For the full show notes, visit . While you're there, sign up for our mailing list to keep up to date on the all the lastest from the show and your hosts. We’d love to hear about your own experiences—reach out anytime via the website!
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Teaser (What Is This Podcast Like?)
10/23/2024
Teaser (What Is This Podcast Like?)
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