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Disruptive Consciousness: Don’t Believe Everything You Thought

The Relentless Pursuit of Winning Podcast

Release Date: 08/12/2025

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🔥 Excerpt

We don’t experience the world—we experience our thinking about the world. Once you spot the difference, stress stops running the show.

 

TL;DR

Executive coach and author Tracey Gazel joins me to dismantle the myths founders carry about stress, mindfulness, and “hustle.” We break down a practical, three-tier framework (physiology → mental training → social dynamics) to recognize triggers, exit burnout, and operate from calm, high-quality thinking—no cushion, no sabbatical, no drama.

 

📄 Show Notes

If you’re a high-achieving founder, you’ve probably convinced yourself stress is the price of admission. Tracey Gazel would like a word. In this episode, we unpack why most of us live in our heads 95% of the time, what that costs in decision quality, and how to get back to the only place strategy actually works—the present moment.

Tracey and I get tactical. We walk through her “stress slide”—the early physiological tells (tight jaw, fists, that familiar knot near the shoulder blade) that precede lousy choices—and how a 30-second pause shifts you out of fight-or-flight and back into the prefrontal cortex, where composure and judgment live. She differentiates mindfulness (observing thoughts) from meditation (quiet mind) and explains why you don’t need a perfect practice to access a quiet mind on demand. Music, a brisk walk, even a bike ride can be legitimate “meditations” if they shelve the noise.

We also talk burnout triage: sleep by cycles (6.0 or 7.5 hours beats a guilty, broken eight), gentler mornings, and short, structured resets throughout the day. The rule is simple: the feeling state you’re in is a dashboard—if you’re anxious or irritable, you’re not doing your best thinking. Don’t brute-force it. Step away, reset, and return with better cognition.

Finally, Tracey maps her three-tier leadership framework:

  1. Physiology—sleep, hydration, oxygen, morning cadence.
  2. Mental training—understand the mechanics of thought; you’re the thinker—choose which thoughts get airtime.
  3. Social—triggers, communication, listening, and culture—where your inner game shows up externally.

If you want fewer 2 a.m. spirals and more decisive execution, this one will pay for itself by next Tuesday.

 

Key Takeaways

• Use the dashboard: your feeling state signals thinking quality—low state, pause; high state, proceed.

• Catch the stress slide early to avoid escalation and poor decisions.

• Shelf the problem to solve it: step away to engage default-mode creativity; then decide.

• Sleep by cycles, not guilt: 6.0 or 7.5 hours; protect a calm morning ramp.

• Train selection, not suppression: you can’t stop 50k+ thoughts/day—choose which ones you entertain.

• Lead from presence: composure is a competitive advantage that cascades into culture and execution.

 

👤 Bio

Tracey Gazel is an executive coach, consultant, speaker, and author who helps driven high-achievers build mental clarity and calm composure under pressure. A former healthcare leader based near Vancouver, she blends mindfulness, neuroscience, and practical leadership coaching to upgrade decision quality for senior executives and founder-led teams.

 

🎁 Giveaway

Unlock Focus, Calm & Clarity (free audio) + access to The Focus Lab (Tracey’s free monthly drop-in).

How to get it:

  1. Connect with Tracey Gazel on LinkedIn with a quick “RPOW listener” note.
  2. Request the “Unlock Focus, Calm & Clarity” audio and the next Focus Lab date.
  3. Show up once; leave with a cleaner head and a practical reset routine.

 

🧭 Chapters

00:00 Introduction and Background

01:59 The Journey to Executive Coaching

04:43 Understanding Mindfulness and Meditation

10:04 The Stress Slide and Its Indicators

12:21 Recognizing and Recovering from Burnout

15:48 Techniques Beyond Meditation for Mental Clarity

19:37 Creating Space for Innovative Thinking

21:00 The Three-Tier Framework for Personal Growth

26:23 Understanding the Mind and Its Habits

30:28 Finding Balance: The Importance of Breaks

34:41 Transformative Client Stories and Lessons Learned

38:22 Choosing to Live Fully in the Present

42:15 Outro