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How do you reconnect with your spirit when your mind just won’t quiet down?
In this episode of The Human Experience (THE) Podcast, Supna Doshi and Dr. Carlos Garcia get real about the messy middle of spiritual growth—when you know the tools, but still feel stuck. Together, they explore what it actually takes to stay aligned, grounded, and connected when life feels overwhelming or uncertain.
From the power of breath and presence to the role of spiritual community and sacred teachers, this conversation offers real, relatable practices that bridge the gap between who we are and who we’re becoming.
🛠️ “You can’t force your way into alignment—you have to surrender to it.”
💡 “Even spiritual tools need spiritual patience.”
Whether you’re deep on your path or just starting to question the noise of your mind, this episode is a heartfelt reminder: You’re not broken. You’re becoming. And there are tools that can help.
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Tools for Bridging the Mind & Spirit Transcript:
[00:00:00] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast, where we explore the depths of spirituality and our own personal journeys and experiences. I'm Dr. Carlos Garcia.
[00:00:11] Supna Doshi: And I'm Supna Doshi. In this space, we'll reflect on the wisdom of some of the most profound spiritual teachers from Eckhart Toi to Ramdas Wayne Dyer, Michael Singer.
[00:00:23] Supna Doshi: Together we'll dive into their teachings and share our own insights that have guided us on our own paths of self-discovery. [00:00:30]
[00:00:30] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Each episode will feature inspiring clips from these masters, weaving them into our own reflections and conversations on how spirituality has enriched our daily lives, deepened our understanding of ourselves, and led us to a more meaningful experience.
[00:00:47] Supna Doshi: So take a deep breath, open your heart, and join us on this journey of exploration. Welcome to the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast. [00:01:00] Thank God for tools. Yeah. 'cause it's the only way that I can bridge the gap for myself between that spirit and the mind. They call it so many different things like mindfulness and meditation and all of the, all of these different terms.
[00:01:17] Supna Doshi: But for me, if it, it's a practice, like it's a way of life, but the same ones don't work all the time. It depends on, what I'm going through, where I am, and then [00:01:30] sometimes none of them work. And then I call Carlos and I'm like, okay, Carlos, let me some of your tool bag, two tool bags, because none of mine are working.
[00:01:39] Supna Doshi: Like I'm just in my head and I can't get out and I can observe it and be aware of it. But stopping that, from thinking it to action, like stopping that piece can be, has been very challenging recently for me.
[00:01:54] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. I wonder if it would be helpful for [00:02:00] listeners to like, have this sort of contextual framework for what is happening in that space in between.
[00:02:08] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Where again, where we can say we're getting lost or where we're forgetting.
[00:02:13] Wayne Dyer: If you took the tiny little spark that began you and tried to find its origination point and reduced it down to its smallest, tiniest fragment, and ultimately put it into a, what we call a particle accelerator and revved it up as fast as you can, rev it up and collided it and tried [00:02:30] to find out what was the basis, what is the spark that began you, what did it look like?
[00:02:34] Wayne Dyer: You open up that particle accelerator, you look inside and there's nothing there. You came from energy. Then you were, you were in your parents' womb, your mother's womb for this nine months, and in the nine months of being inside of your mother's womb, everything that you needed for the physical journey and for the entire journey was taken care of.
[00:02:59] Wayne Dyer: It was [00:03:00] all handled for you. There was nothing for you to do. In the D it says you are doing nothing. You're just being done. Have you ever had that awareness? You ever look in the mirror and realize that this has nothing to do with anything that you're doing, you're just being done. Things that start happening,
[00:03:24] Dr. Carlos Garcia: That, that distance, yeah, that, that feels like very like my daily work, [00:03:30] right? Ev ever since having this sort of profound awakening moment. I've heard it also described as integration.
[00:03:39] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like how do you come back into daily life and all of the ways that you've been wired with and integrate this thing that you've now experienced within your being.
[00:03:50] Supna Doshi: There's such a great, segment I heard from Ramdas where he talks, talked about how he was in India and on that spiritual journey. And then he came [00:04:00] home and his dad just asked him, do you have a job? And like that he was back.
[00:04:06] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. If you think you're enlightened, go home and spend a week with your parents.
[00:04:10] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Two, two really powerful things that happened this week that I feel are relevant and can maybe give, an understanding. So one is this. Man that I work with, and he's, not even 20 yet, but has a father that's introduced the da de ching to him very early on in his life.
[00:04:27] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And so he's like very [00:04:30] aware. He's very, he's a very conscious, 19-year-old. And, part of our work together is sharing of how frustrating it is the path, right? We don't call it that, but we'll jump on a call and I'm just so frustrated, and why do I feel this way?
[00:04:46] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And I'm feeling depressed and I'm feeling disconnected. And then you could just tell over the course of our hour together, some of that starts to just come off. Fade away. And we arrive back at that place of oh, how it all [00:05:00] is. And then there's a shift in mood.
[00:05:02] Dr. Carlos Garcia: There's a shift in, in his energy and it's oh, yeah. We just keep forgetting.
[00:05:09] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And by the end of the call, he's I got it. And I was like, okay. So I'll see you next week when you've forgotten again and you're kicking and screaming. Like, why does it have to be this way?
[00:05:18] Supna Doshi: And I feel like to a degree, like as communities, I have this sense that we used to do that before with each other.
[00:05:28] Supna Doshi: Yeah. I have this sense [00:05:30] that our community. Was where we turned to when we forgot and they were there to remind us. And I feel, personally, I feel completely isolated and don't, besides my therapist on speed dial, those are the people that I go to be reminded now. And so it just made me think like the more we can have these.[00:06:00]
[00:06:00] Supna Doshi: Conversations with each other on an, normalizing these conversations with each other on a society basis, on a community basis. I think the less intense it would be when we can remind each other.
[00:06:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Yeah. I agree. And it speaks to the sort of second incident or event that I wanted to share was having lunch.
[00:06:22] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Somebody I just met at a gathering recently and can tell, right? Very hard centered, spiritual but we didn't, we didn't get to [00:06:30] meet, know each other very well. And then over lunch. It was so interesting, like we started this conversation around like business owners and like the challenges and the challenges of life, and then the conversation just organically moved into like this understanding that we are both souls loving beings, navigating this like human existence and.
[00:06:57] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Again if you were witnessing this [00:07:00] conversation, you would see it go from this amplified, like anxiety and oh my God, all the things we struggle with to this moment where I just glared right through her eyeballs into her soul and be like, yeah you get what we're doing here, right?
[00:07:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like you are a part of it all. You are like this. This is what we, this is what we're doing, right? And then this is like moment of like connection and ease. And in some cultures it's called Satan, or it's called the Sangha, right? [00:07:30] I had this really powerful meditation session recently where those words became like really relevant.
[00:07:40] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like I understood them on a soul level because I was like, oh my God, I have so many people in my life that like, we haven't communicated to each other that's what we are. That's exactly the purpose that they fulfill in my life. Like you and like other people that are a constant reminder for [00:08:00] me, one of how easy it is to get lost in our humanness, but two of how it feels to then be connected again and remind each other.
[00:08:09] Supna Doshi: And I think that's speak. Speaking of kind of a framework or a structure, that's probably like the biggest one. It wasn't even on my. Radar, but I think that is the biggest one. It's like building a community around us where we can have these conversations, where we can remind each other, where how are you, is not, I'm [00:08:30] fine.
[00:08:31] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And I think too like the question this young man asked me is like, why do we forget? Why do we keep forgetting and why so often, my understanding. It's probably somewhat primitive understanding, I'm sure of it all. It's just like there are so many. Like just pulls from the system, I call it, right?
[00:08:54] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The day to day. The mind is wired to problem solve and seek solutions and [00:09:00] Right. The constant exposure to society and its messaging and social media and and. The ways our personalities and roles have been enforced, and even in our own minds, right? Like who I am.
[00:09:11] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I'm a psychologist, I am Carlos, I am a husband. I am right? And just the ways that sometimes unconsciously we continue to reinforce. Other roles in our human roles and our human labels. And I think that that is the work, right? That's why these tools are necessary because [00:09:30] there's such a strong force pulling us in the other direction.
[00:09:34] Dr. Carlos Garcia: My understanding is that's kind of part of it, right? That's the way it's supposed to be. That is part of the process of becoming an enlightened being and evolving is. Continually finding and using those tools so that you're less and less yanked or pulled or being driven by desires and attachments and some of that stuff
[00:09:58] Supna Doshi: to other spiritualists, so [00:10:00] like Wayne Dyer and Michael Singer and Eckhart, and, but what you're talking about that.
[00:10:09] Supna Doshi: Stop forgetting. They all say in different words. It's part that is part of the journey that is part of the awakening. The forgetting is part of the awakening because it's a continuous, like we tend to think linearly and the spiritual path is not linear. And so that forgetting is part of the remembering.
[00:10:29] Supna Doshi: Yeah. [00:10:30] Like we talked about, you can't have the light without the dark and the joy without the. Sadness, even though we put those labels on it, you can't have the remembrance without the forget.
[00:10:40] Wayne Dyer: Like the first moment of your conception, that moment that you went from non being to being, you think that it was your parents who did this, you know that you came from your parents, but I'm speaking on a quantum level here.
[00:10:55] Wayne Dyer: It didn't come from your parents.
[00:10:58] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The listening to other spiritual [00:11:00] teachers, the communities, that, we associate ourselves with, here as we're talking, I'm I have beads in my hand, right? Mantras, right? Meditation, mindfulness so many practices.
[00:11:15] Dr. Carlos Garcia: That. And for me it's oh, now I understand why, you said it earlier they don't always work, but like, why? We need to just have in our toolbox so many of these tools because the forgetting is so easy. Like the more of these tools that we have, [00:11:30] we can, try to stay more centered in that space whenever possible.
[00:11:35] Supna Doshi: I think movement is also a big one for me. Recently I started running. Yeah. Because it was so bad for me because the forgetting was I had forgotten to such an extreme. I was like, okay, walking is not gonna cut it anymore. But I think movement is a good one. Why? Things like yoga and sports, and again, it's community activity so that you start to build that community.
[00:11:59] Supna Doshi: But [00:12:00] those those activities of movement. Are really powerful and shifting energy within you and take the edge off so that it's not so intense.
[00:12:10] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah, and nature is a big one for me.
[00:12:14] Supna Doshi: Nature is huge and we're blessed to live in, the sunny state of Florida where we can really relish the nature around us almost every day of the year.
[00:12:25] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I think at times, for me, feels, I. And really what I mean, [00:12:30] what I'm sharing here is right, like the process of this path, which is I was gonna say, like it feels so frustrating for me. It's like I get how this kid feels, right? Like he's speaking our story, right? But like, how frustrating it feels sometimes that you can be at times in a place of such deep, like clarity, right?
[00:12:51] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Or just knowing and that other moments. It just feels so darn hard and sticky [00:13:00] and frustrating and I, like I can see in me the part where part of the suffering is like my desire and yearning for continued clarity. For me to be in that space continually. But that's not where the learning is.
[00:13:19] Supna Doshi: Yeah. And that's attachment too.
[00:13:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Totally
[00:13:22] Supna Doshi: being attached to that. I am totally attached to that feeling of bliss all the time. But there's no growth in that. Yeah, [00:13:30] I think another one obviously I can label healthy and unhealthy, but distractions sometimes for me when it gets super intense sometimes the distraction is just, it also helps to take the edge off if I can't.
[00:13:44] Supna Doshi: The movement's not working or it's not helping or, the conversations, but I just slip back into that place. Sometimes they're just distractions for me. Like a really good book, like a really good saucy book. Sometimes it's [00:14:00] mindlessly scrolling.
[00:14:02] Supna Doshi: Sure. Just to get my brain to stop for a little while. I think obviously there are some other ones that aren't great. Like the alcohol or the, it it depends on the use, but and no judgment, just for me they're not effective distraction. But yeah, distractions sometimes are good.
[00:14:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. I, yeah. I totally agree. There's so much in the world pulling for our attention on a, just like minute to minute [00:14:30] level, right? Our jobs and our families and, the things that we're trying to accomplish in the world can often feel like distractions.
[00:14:38] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. And again, I just often speak to like, how. The path of least resistance, right? Like the mind is gonna go to what feels easier, right? Like it, it just is we're just wired that way.
[00:14:53] Supna Doshi: Yeah.
[00:14:54] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And so why some of these practices can feel challenging or [00:15:00] hard, especially at the beginning, like just meditation, right?
[00:15:02] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Anytime I'm trying to teach somebody some skills around meditation, it's but it's so hard. Yeah. It's supposed to be. And we do, we have this general aversion to hard, right? Like we do have, yeah,
[00:15:15] Supna Doshi: I want it to be easy,
[00:15:16] Dr. Carlos Garcia: right? Like we have a preference for, the good emotions and when things are easy and pleasant and I totally get that,
[00:15:23] Supna Doshi: and I think the heart is just our own suffer. Like it's our own [00:15:30] creation, because. I want things easy, but if I can honestly, like objectively sit down I'm just making it hard on myself and that's why it's hard. Yeah. And if I can let go of that, then it would be easy, but that's too hard to do.
[00:15:47] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Share with me your version of how you make it hard on yourself, because I know that I do that as well and I'm like really curious, like how that shows up for you.
[00:15:57] Supna Doshi: Yeah. I think when we were talking about [00:16:00] role. I think I can really be self-deprecating. When it comes to my attachment to my role, then, oh, but if you don't do this, you're not a good daughter.
[00:16:11] Supna Doshi: And, and it's not so much judgment from the outside. I'm not, I never have been somebody who's super attached to how other people see me, but how maybe my parents see me. Is probably the most attachment that I have is, oh, I always want to make them proud with my actions. [00:16:30] And so I get really grounded in that role.
[00:16:34] Supna Doshi: And so when I'm trying to do something that maybe, for me that sneaks in and makes it hard.
[00:16:41] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Beautiful. What
[00:16:42] Supna Doshi: about for you?
[00:16:43] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Two? Two, I think two big things that I've been able to notice. One is very similar to yours, right? My idea of my identity of who I'm supposed to be. I mean that in and of itself.
[00:16:57] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And then the piece is who I'm supposed to be [00:17:00] is, this human who is loving and caring all the time. And always offering of myself and leading with kindness and compassion and doing for others, which great, all great things. And part of what creates a lot of, I. Stress and challenges in my life.
[00:17:19] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The other day I was reflecting on this and a series of questions came up that like I'm working through, but that like stopped me [00:17:30] in my tracks because to explore these fields, like really challenging to my ego. And so the questions were like, what if you can let go? Of the need to be of service to others.
[00:17:51] Dr. Carlos Garcia: What if you can let go of the need to be relevant in the world and there's a part of me that like, doesn't even wanna explore [00:18:00] that. I'm just getting emotional, just like thinking about it. What do you mean? That's the identity I've been. Creating for myself my whole entire life. That is how people view me.
[00:18:10] Dr. Carlos Garcia: That is what people expect of me. That is who I am as a husband and father and a psychologist. And like what, and the second one I think you're familiar with in Me, which is this storyline that I have had such a hard time breaking with over the years of my [00:18:30] life that things are supposed to be hard, that.
[00:18:34] Dr. Carlos Garcia: If I'm intended to grow or become less, more of anything, there needs to be a massive amount of friction for that to happen. And like that compel, that was the, that's what compelled me to choose the Marine Corps over any of the other military branches. 'cause I knew it was the hardest one.
[00:18:53] Supna Doshi: Yeah.
[00:18:53] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Why I chose the fire academy I went to why? I do a lot of things in my life because it's hard. Like I'm [00:19:00] intentionally like I know RDAs talks about putting yourself in the hottest flyers. Like sometimes I don't want to, right? Like I don't but because this is so attached to my identity, I remember taking a walk with you once and I was talking about going on a pilgrimage the Camino, which is in Spain, and there's multiple ways you can do it.
[00:19:18] Dr. Carlos Garcia: You can go for the longest route is like a month and a half, and then there's one that's two dates. And I was like, yeah, I'm gonna do the one that's a month and a half. And you were just quiet for a second. After I finished speaking, you were like, [00:19:30] I wonder. If you just went and did the two days and I didn't like, I couldn't hear you.
[00:19:36] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I didn't hear you in that moment. I was just like, no, that's silly. And only later did. I was like, oh, I see what she was doing.
[00:19:47] Dr. Carlos Garcia: It was so beautiful.
[00:19:50] Supna Doshi: I wonder, I'm curious because I'm curious if you think those are tied to immigrant stories. Because I was raised [00:20:00] by immigrant parents who my whole life told me how hard their lives were, and I feel like I was raised thinking, oh, life is supposed to be hard. I have to work hard. Things will not be easy, and I am meant to suffer.
[00:20:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah I think that's a big part of the programming for me as well.
[00:20:25] Supna Doshi: And it's mind blowing when you start that path of questioning [00:20:30] the things, the foundations really of your identity that you were raised on. That is so unsettling because I feel like, I think what if it's not true? Byron's four questions, right?
[00:20:49] Supna Doshi: You have the thought, but what if. Oh my God, if life is not supposed to be hard, what is it supposed to be? I don't have an [00:21:00] identity. What is my identity? If I am not suffering or struggling or serving others, what is my purpose if I cannot be in service to others at all times?
[00:21:13] Byron Katie: So the work is a way to identify what.
[00:21:17] Byron Katie: You yourself are believing to identify the thoughts that cause all the suffering in the world. For example, you identify a concept or an [00:21:30] assumption that you are thinking, believing is causing stress, and you put it up against the following questions. The first question, is it true? Second question, can you absolutely know that it's true?
[00:21:44] Byron Katie: This assumption you're believing? Third question. Notice how you react. What happens when you believe that thought? When you're thinking that thought? Fourth question, who would you [00:22:00] be without that thought? What would your life be without that thought? So for example, if you have the thought, he doesn't care about me, and you ask yourself, is it true he doesn't care about me?
[00:22:15] Byron Katie: Is it true? The work is meditation. It's contemplation. It takes very deep stillness because what arises to meet that question [00:22:30] is pure knowledge. Yours. You are the teacher you've been waiting for and in the stillness, as you wait for that answer within you to meet, is it true? Amazing things happen.
[00:22:47] Byron Katie: In fact, enlightenment happens. So the second question, can you absolutely know that it's true? Let's say your answer to the first question is, yes. Yes, it's true. He doesn't [00:23:00] care about me. He told me he doesn't care about me. And so the second question, can you absolutely know that it's true? It gives you. An opportunity to experience amazing other ways of seeing that same idea.
[00:23:21] Byron Katie: So I invite you to, to test it and to see how widely and vastly [00:23:30] your mind can open just to the experience of that. Second question, can you absolutely know that it's true that he doesn't care about you? Or whatever concept and assumption you're questioning. So the third question, how do you react when you believe that thought?
[00:23:48] Byron Katie: How do you react? What happens when you think that thought that he doesn't care about you or she doesn't care about you? So notice first, emotionally, how that [00:24:00] concept shifts your feelings. Notice your heart rate notice. A depression that may begin to happen. Notice how you react. What happens when you think that thought?
[00:24:16] Byron Katie: Notice the images of past and future that arise when you think that thought. And of course, the emotional comes out of witnessing that a parent passed or future that is in your [00:24:30] mind's eye now. Wow. So that fourth question, who would you be without the thought? He doesn't care about you. Who would you be without the thought?
[00:24:38] Byron Katie: And I'm not asking you to drop the thought. I'm simply asking you to contemplate, to become very still. And imagine yourself even with that person. Imagine yourself at the market. Imagine yourself with or without that person, only without the thought. He [00:25:00] doesn't care about you. So many of us come to understand very quickly as we experience the answers to these four questions and the answers.
[00:25:10] Byron Katie: That's where the power is not in the work, but your answers. So what people began to notice is that with the thought, that is the cause of all stress and suffering, and without the thought. You cannot suffer. So [00:25:30] eventually people come to understand that it is what we are believing that is the cause of our depression, our stress, our heart rate, our emotional and not what is happening in the world.
[00:25:46] Byron Katie: For example, I see the world as perfect. Everything perfect. No mistake.
[00:25:56] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Another truth here is that like [00:26:00] most of the really hard and challenging things in my life have brought profound wisdom and understanding and Right. I think like maybe I'm just reinforcing that narrative again here, potentially.
[00:26:14] Supna Doshi: That's what I'm just wondering is like. What if you did something that was easier, would it still have led to this profound learning? And you're like, oh, but I didn't have to work as hard for it, so it doesn't mean as much. So my [00:26:30] parents won't be as proud of me as if I had actually taken the hardest path.
[00:26:34] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Totally. Yeah. I'm still working with this one, and like just the last handful of workshops that I've done, right? Like I'm, I often am speaking to people that have very, challenging careers or do challenging work. And, part of a, part of the, part of what I share is embrace the hard because it's building you to be more resilient. Like that is the thing I share and people connect with it and they're like, oh [00:27:00] yeah, this is amazing. But yeah. What if we start to question that? And that really brings into question for me, which I know is a a topic you and I talk about at times like abundance versus scarcity mindset.
[00:27:14] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Like the thing attached there is oh yeah, abundance is possible and you gotta kill yourself for it. You just have to like sacrifice. You just have you hear the narrative.
[00:27:22] Supna Doshi: I do find myself teaching my children if it's hard, you're [00:27:30] doing it wrong. It's not supposed to be hard.
[00:27:35] Supna Doshi: I think I say it into belief,
[00:27:39] Supna Doshi: right? But I do find like in the simplest things, if I'm opening a jar of pasta sauce and I just can't get it and I'm struggling, like I stop, I take a breath and I'm like, it's not supposed to be hard. It's supposed to be easy. You're doing it wrong, love it, and click it opens [00:28:00] and I'm on my way. I do find that pattern in a lot of places in my in, in my day.
[00:28:07] Supna Doshi: And does lead me. And also the personal experience I've had with abundance and when you do let go of so much of the programming and do just open yourself up to releasing a lot of what is in your head and just to be in your heart, that really the energy that the universe opens up is beyond what I [00:28:30] could.
[00:28:33] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And I could really second that my friend, because we talked a few episodes ago about that breakfast you and I had where, you really introduced this idea of letting go in life and what that would look like. And I can look at the last handful of years in my life and seen the places where I've decided consciously I don't want this to be hard and I'm gonna let go here and.
[00:28:58] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And have just noticed [00:29:00] the ways things fall in my lap, the way things feel easier, the way opportunities arise, the way, there's just this shift in that deeply ingrained belief system that it has to be hard.
[00:29:14] Supna Doshi: Yeah.
[00:29:15] Dr. Carlos Garcia: The right the universe is providing me with evidence that, that is true.
[00:29:19] Supna Doshi: I almost feel, and it doesn't work this way, so I do know that, but I. There are moments in my life like very clear for me milestones where I am fighting [00:29:30] and I am struggling and I am a strong believer in I have to work for this and it won't work, and it won't work and it won't work. Fertility being a very strong lesson for 10 years, and when I finally got to a place of pure surrender, acceptance of what is maybe it's not supposed to.
[00:29:54] Supna Doshi: It was almost like a check mark went into a box. The universe was like, oh, she learned that lesson. Okay, [00:30:00] give her the babies.
[00:30:02] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Don't just give her a baby. We're.
[00:30:11] Supna Doshi: Yeah. But yeah, I feel that was one of the big starts of it. But then since then, which is almost 12 years now, they've, I've noticed that pattern in my life that with the big things that I'm struggling with, when I can honestly, on a soul level, just release it and [00:30:30] just let it go and come to a place of acceptance.
[00:30:33] Supna Doshi: It just magically resolves itself in the most it may, where I don't have to do anything much really. And I have to show up and do my work which is staying, in my soul and really working on myself and the rest of it like
[00:30:50] Dr. Carlos Garcia: just falls into place. Just
[00:30:52] Supna Doshi: falls
[00:30:53] Dr. Carlos Garcia: into place. Yeah. That's so powerful.
[00:30:56] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Yeah. Yeah. That that, I'm really trying to walk that [00:31:00] path now. Not trying. I am. And the right that, as you were saying that this the word faith popped into my mind the trust or the faith that we sometimes need to have that it's gonna work out because I think that's where, at least for me, there, there's, I don't know that I would always label it a fear, but whatever that resistance that lives there of letting go of surrendering is like I need to be in control.
[00:31:25] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Because if I'm not like it, bad things might happen. And I know that's deeply, [00:31:30] that's wiring that's coming, deeply ingrained from my upper and, my, my family history and a lot of that. The other piece I was gonna share is one of the things where you and I connect is we're business owners, right? We're type A personalities in some ways we're doers. We live in a society here in the US where you know, a lot of what success means or it's like the achieving, the becoming, the creating a plan, the executing of that plan the doing, the having control, the right.
[00:31:57] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And so it's been so funny [00:32:00] sometimes where. I'm sitting around with another person in business or an entrepreneur, and we're talking about you, strategy. Let's say about, how this next business is gonna go down. And I, I hear, or I feel myself getting caught up and oh my God, I don't have a plan for this thing, or I'm not.
[00:32:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: My marketing strategy isn't on point. And that communicating to this other business person who maybe, isn't as awake, as aware [00:32:30] oh, I'm just trusting the universe. And they're like, wait what? How are you crazy? What's wrong with you?
[00:32:35] Supna Doshi: Totally.
[00:32:36] Supna Doshi: Totally. That has been day one of me running my business. Once I. I learned a lot once I experienced, not learned, once I actually experienced the universe at a level where it started to resonate for me that the ideas of abundance and service to other, and that, what's the saying, a rising [00:33:00] tide lifts all ships.
[00:33:02] Supna Doshi: That, that release of what success looks like for everybody else because. At, the sacrifice of somebody else that my success is to come at the sacrifice of somebody else, which is completely bogus, right? Baloney, ego stuff that everybody can be uberly successful all the time, but that we, we get in.
[00:33:28] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And I love [00:33:30] two things that you said there a minute ago. One was the ways that you tried to remain, with the use of your tools or not the ways that you tried to remain centered in your, in your awareness
[00:33:42] Dr. Carlos Garcia: In your soul. And how absolutely critical that is not only for our path, but for how we're navigating the world and.
[00:33:50] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Back to this idea of community, rondos like this is one of the things Rondos speaks about that has always just profoundly stood with me. That is that our only work is to continue to [00:34:00] do the work on ourselves.
[00:34:01] Dr. Carlos Garcia: So that we can be a vehicle for others to do the same or for others to awaken or for others, when they are ready.
[00:34:10] Dr. Carlos Garcia: And so that shift of identity from who I'm supposed to be and what I'm supposed to be doing for others to, oh, I just need to work on myself every day.
[00:34:21] Dr. Carlos Garcia: I just need to seat myself in my practices to continue to reside in that space of [00:34:30] expansion, awareness, openness, letting go of the. The stories, the narratives, the beliefs the things that keep us limited so that just, it can be a model. It can be a model for others to see that's even possible. What that looks like for inspiration. It doesn't, we're not creating what that means for other people in their lives. Like our only objective is just to keep going inward and reminding ourselves.
[00:34:57] Supna Doshi: Yeah, and we have those guides [00:35:00] like Singer who can show us, you can run a business, you can be very successful, you can stay soul centered and he's got amazing books and amazing tools and talks that that, that show his path.
[00:35:15] Supna Doshi: I think that concept of, because when I. When I first heard that, I'm like I can't go off to the Himalayas. I got three babies now. So if you told me that six months ago, we could talk, but now I can't do [00:35:30] that. And, but they all talk about, Eckhard and everybody talks about how you can do the work within the scope of the roles that you've chosen, and that's the work.
[00:35:42] Supna Doshi: What I love about some of the things I've been listening to recently, and especially I think Byron Katie I heard her talk about it. It's this return to that childhood innocence that we had when we were born. There was no human that went in and put our [00:36:00] eyes into our body and our nose, into our body and our mother's stomach.
[00:36:04] Supna Doshi: Like that was all taken care of by the universe, and so then when we're born, the parents wanna take over 'cause we're adults and we have the ego developed. Now it's oh, I could do better than the universe, so let me make sure that you don't run a fever and let me make sure you don't touch this dirty thing, et cetera, et cetera.
[00:36:22] Supna Doshi: But she talks about returning to that childhood innocence where everything is just based on curiosity, [00:36:30] where you giggle about. I everything. My daughter drives me bananas when she giggles and giggles and will laugh and laugh. I mean for 20 minutes at the dinner, and I'm like, you supposed to be eating?
[00:36:45] Supna Doshi: I'm like, oh no. You're doing what you're supposed be doing and I should be doing more of what you're doing. Oh my God. So I think it's that when you talk about, I think it's like that connection back to that source of wherever it's that we came from. [00:37:00] It's that connection back to the knowing, it's the connection back to the lightheartedness and the deep breaths and the ease of the flow of life.
[00:37:09] Supna Doshi: And that all of these tools that we've talked about, are just different ways to help us. Get there. Stay there. Go back there, wherever we are in our path.
[00:37:23] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Thank you for listening to this episode of the podcast, the Human Experience Podcast. We're so grateful [00:37:30] to have shared this time with you.
[00:37:32] Supna Doshi: As we continue recording new episodes, we'd love to hear from you, share your thoughts, questions, or topics you'd like us to explore and tell us about your own spiritual journey.
[00:37:42] Supna Doshi: We wanna connect with you.
[00:37:44] Dr. Carlos Garcia: Give us a call at (800) 791-3884 and leave us a voicemail. You might just be featured on a future episode of the podcast.
[00:37:55] Supna Doshi: Thank you for being part of our community. Until next time, keep walking your path [00:38:00] with peace, love, and purpose.
Episode: Tools for Bridging the Mind & Spirit
Credit
Wayne Dyer: https://youtu.be/z6bI512XbyU?si=SNJg52JOXg3_EHk8
Wayne Dyer: https://youtu.be/bP8moNSVkCs?si=wu6ZimgScYM4Q4BU
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