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EP 42: Kevin, A Betrayed Male's Journey with Infidelity, Autism and Incomprehensible Trauma

Sam's Healing Podcast

Release Date: 05/14/2025

EP 59 with Sharon Rinearson: EP 59 with Sharon Rinearson: "I Don't Think I Could Have Been More Disrespected by my Husband..."

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How does the betrayed understand the heinous choices of the unfaithful?   "If my unfaithful truly cared about me, how could they make the choices they have made to be unfaithful and go outside the marriage?"   How does the betrayed work through the understanding of why the unfaithful had such a flurry of activity for their affair partners, but NOT for the betrayed spouse themselves?  How could they and how DID they work so hard for the affair partners but yet so little on the marriage and for their spouses?     Sharon Rinearson—an expert therapist with 30+ years of...

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EP 58: EP 58: "It Was Like a Death to the Life I Had Planned." A Betrayed Guest Shares Her Story

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If you’re a betrayed partner, you know: infidelity can feel like a death. The death of a marriage. The loss of the life you planned. The shattering of what you thought you were living. For those who haven’t faced it, that comparison might sound dramatic—but for survivors, it’s reality. The grief and pain after discovering infidelity or addiction can be overwhelming, and “moving on” can feel impossible. Yet, in today’s episode, you’ll meet Joanie—a client and survivor—who bravely shares her journey for the first time. Joanie’s story is raw, honest, and ultimately hopeful:...

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EP 57: Dr. Matthew Hedelius: Is My Spouse a Sex Addict or Just Dealing with Sexual Compulsivity? show art EP 57: Dr. Matthew Hedelius: Is My Spouse a Sex Addict or Just Dealing with Sexual Compulsivity?

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Have you ever wondered if you or your partner was truly a sex addict?  Perhaps you're wondering if you or your partner are maybe dealing with sexual compulsivity?   What in fact is this 'sexual compulsivity?'   Today you'll meet Dr. Matthew Hedelius Psy. D., LCSW, CSAT-S who has been a regular guest on the podcast over the years and is the Director of Paradise Creek Recovery Center.   Dr. Matthew Hedelius earned a B.S. degree in Family Sciences, a Masters Degree in Clinical Social Work and a Doctor of Psychology Degree. He has provided treatment for both men and women who...

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EP 56: Guest Amanda Asproni EP 56: Guest Amanda Asproni "My Unfaithful Keeps Wanting me, the Betrayed, to Rescue Them."

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Today’s episode of Sam’s Healing Podcast features a courageous and deeply empathetic interview with Amanda Asproni as we confront the raw realities of infidelity and betrayal trauma.   Together, we examine why so many unfaithful partners desperately want those they've betrayed to show up for them—longing for their partner to absorb and manage their shame, rescue them emotionally, and shoulder responsibility for healing, even after breaking trust. Amanda offers clear, compassionate insight into the tangled mix of guilt, regret, and helplessness that often overwhelms individuals who...

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Helping the Unfaithful Move From Helping the Unfaithful Move From "Not It!" to "Got it!"

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On today's episode of “Moving from Not It to Got It,” Sam takes listeners on an honest journey through the pivotal moment when an unfaithful spouse chooses to stop deflecting and starts owning their actions. The episode opens by breaking down the psychological reality of the “Not It” phase—where self-protection, avoidance, and justification keep an individual stuck, unable to truly connect with their partner or heal the damage from infidelity. The reality is, “Not It” causes a significant amount of collateral damage including but certainly not limited to:   blocking all...

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EP 55: Dr. Jill Manning: Infidelity, Betrayal Trauma and and the Use of Alcohol to Escape show art EP 55: Dr. Jill Manning: Infidelity, Betrayal Trauma and and the Use of Alcohol to Escape

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In the aftermath of betrayal trauma, many adults turn to alcohol or other substances in search of relief. It might feel like a way to escape, to quiet pain and overwhelm, or simply to get through another day. What’s really happening is “numbing out”—using alcohol and drugs to suppress painful emotions, calm anxiety, and insulate from distressing memories. The urge to numb out is understandable, but over time, relying on substances creates new problems and blocks authentic healing. As a clinician, Dr. Jill Manning is seeing a troubling increase in alcohol use among those suffering...

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EP 54: Guest Amanda Asproni Discusses: What Does Weaponizing Therapy or Coaching Look Like? show art EP 54: Guest Amanda Asproni Discusses: What Does Weaponizing Therapy or Coaching Look Like?

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When infidelity or addiction has shaken a relationship, couples often turn to coaching or therapy for healing. These tools are designed to help people rebuild trust, understand pain, and create healthier patterns. At their best, they provide safety, empathy, and clarity. But when the language and frameworks of therapy or coaching are misused, they can become weapons.  Instead of supporting healing, they deepen wounds, reinforce blame, and prevent genuine repair. After cheating or addiction, emotions are raw. One partner may grasp at therapy concepts to regain control or avoid...

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EP 53: How Could You? An Unfaithful Shares How He Allowed Himself to Cheat show art EP 53: How Could You? An Unfaithful Shares How He Allowed Himself to Cheat

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Why does the unfaithful cheat or act out?  What allows them to go against their moral compass and engage in an extramarital affair?  How do they justify it to themselves?   The truth may challenge what you've come to believe about some unfaithful partners.   For some it's anger and getting their needs met.  For others it can even be subconscious retaliation for the perceived rejection by their partner or spouse.  For others it's an exit affair.   Today you'll hear from Ryan who shares his own individual story of why he acted out and what was going on inside...

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EP 52: EP 52: "I Was About to Lose Everything I Valued...." Interview with Ryan a Former Unfaithful

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Have you ever wondered what goes through the mind of an unfaithful when they are about to lose everything?  Have you considered that maybe, just maybe there are those who sober up, realize what they are about to lose and actually do recovery work?  Today you'll hear from Ryan again, a former unfaithful who shares more of his compelling journey to healing as an unfaithful spouse who finally GOT IT.   He's no rock star.   He's no superman or super human.   He's simply one of so many who have chosen to do the work and do whatever it takes to save his family.   Maybe...

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EP 51: Interview with Adam Nisenson EP 51: Interview with Adam Nisenson "Well...you did that for them...why won't you do it for me?"

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What does the betrayed do when they feel as though the unfaithful just won't do the work?  Yet, the unfaithful, seemingly showed all sorts of effort to pursue their affair partner?   What choices does the betrayed male have in understanding the heart and mind of the unfaithful woman?  Are there parallels between the unfaithful male and unfaithful female?   Today you'll hear from returning guest Adam Nisenson, AKA The Betrayal Shrink, as he answers these tough questions and more. Adam combines his extensive clinical skills with a deeply empathetic heart in his role as a...

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Today you'll meet a friend of mine, Kevin who shares his own journey with infidelity as a betrayed male and Autism.

Autism, or Autism Spectrum Disorder (ASD), is a neurodevelopmental condition that affects how a person perceives the world and interacts with others. It’s called a “spectrum” because it includes a wide range of characteristics and levels of support needs, from mild to significant.

Key Features of Autism:

  • Social communication difficulties: Challenges with understanding and using verbal and nonverbal language, such as tone of voice, facial expressions, or gestures.
  • Repetitive behaviors and routines: Repeating movements (like hand-flapping), phrases, or having strict routines and resistance to change.
  • Intense interests: Deep focus on specific topics or activities, sometimes to the exclusion of others.
  • Sensory sensitivities: Over- or under-sensitivity to lights, sounds, textures, smells, or pain.

Other Points:

  • Autism is not a disease and doesn't need to be "cured" — it's a difference in brain wiring.
  • It can be diagnosed in early childhood, but some people aren’t diagnosed until adolescence or adulthood.
  • Some autistic individuals need significant daily support, while others live independently and may even see their autism as a key part of their identity.
  • Autism can affect how a person processes and heals from infidelity in several unique ways, largely because of differences in emotional regulation, communication, trust, and social cognition. Here’s how it might impact the healing process:

1. Difficulty with Emotional Processing
Autistic individuals may experience emotions very deeply but struggle to express or interpret them — both in themselves and others. This can make processing betrayal more overwhelming or confusing:

They might ruminate on the event more intensely or for longer.

Emotional pain might show up as shutdowns, meltdowns, or withdrawal rather than verbal expression.

2. Struggles with Change and Uncertainty
Infidelity introduces chaos and unpredictability into a relationship, which can be especially difficult for someone on the spectrum:

Many autistic people rely on routine, predictability, and structure to feel safe. The loss of emotional security can feel destabilizing.

Rebuilding trust may be slower, as they may not "move on" in the same way neurotypical people might.

3. Literal Thinking and Trust
Autistic people often think in black-and-white terms, which can make infidelity feel like an irreparable breach:

Trust, once broken, might not feel recoverable.

Concepts like "emotional cheating" or gray areas in relationships can be especially confusing or hurtful.

4. Communication Challenges
Discussing feelings, negotiating boundaries, and engaging in therapy can be more complex:

The autistic partner might have difficulty articulating what they need to feel safe again.

Or they may struggle to understand or validate their partner’s perspective if it's not clearly communicated.

5. Social Naivety or Misreading Cues
Some autistic individuals may be more socially naive or miss subtle signs of trouble in a relationship, so discovering infidelity can come as a greater shock.