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460. Prioritizing Return on Experience (ROX), with Lisa Conarton

Destination On The Left

Release Date: 01/21/2026

489. Building Collaboration Across Borders and Waterways, with Sally Berry show art 489. Building Collaboration Across Borders and Waterways, with Sally Berry

Destination On The Left

On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Sally Berry, Tourism Director for Great Lakes USA and Cruise the Great Lakes. Sally shares how an unexpected career path led her into tourism and eventually to one of the industry’s most collaborative regional organizations. We discuss the power of partnerships, the rapid growth of Great Lakes cruising, and why thinking beyond traditional destination boundaries creates stronger visitor experiences and more resilient communities. Sally also offers practical insights into building meaningful collaborations that benefit destinations,...

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488. Community Conversation: Strengthening Tourism Through Advocacy show art 488. Community Conversation: Strengthening Tourism Through Advocacy

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I host a special Community Conversation featuring Patrick Kaler, President & CEO of Visit Buffalo Niagara; Tony Snell-Rodriguez, Director of Community Engagement & Inclusion at Visit Milwaukee; Steven Coyle, Director of Government Relations for Transportation Policy at the American Bus Association; and Hillarie Logan-Dechene, Deputy Director of The Wild Center. Together, they explore the many dimensions of advocacy in the tourism industry, from legislative engagement and community partnerships to storytelling, relationship building, and...

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487. Building Culinary and Agritourism Through Collaboration: Conversations from the Taste of Place Summit show art 487. Building Culinary and Agritourism Through Collaboration: Conversations from the Taste of Place Summit

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, we bring you Part 2 of our Roadshow series recorded live at the 2026 Taste of Place Summit in Edmonton, Alberta. Hosted by the Culinary Tourism Alliance in partnership with Explore Edmonton, the Summit brought together destination leaders, economic development professionals, and tourism organizations exploring how culinary tourism can strengthen local economies and create more distinctive destination identities. Through conversations with Ellen Walker-Matthews, Elaine Zedack, Eiblis Doherty, Ceri Chong, and Bryanna Kumpula-Yung, we explore how...

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486. Food Tourism Begins with People: Conversations from the Taste of Place Summit show art 486. Food Tourism Begins with People: Conversations from the Taste of Place Summit

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, we bring you the first of two Roadshow episodes recorded live at the 2026 Taste of Place Summit in Edmonton, Alberta. Hosted by the Culinary Tourism Alliance in partnership with Explore Edmonton, the Summit gathered culinary tourism and agritourism leaders, destination professionals, farmers, chefs, producers, and artisans from across Canada and beyond to explore how food connects visitors to people, culture, and place. Through conversations with Tam Anderson, Jenni Lessard, James Eddington, Carl-Éric Guertin, and Monica Frost, we uncover a common...

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485. Building Stronger Communities Starts with an Open Mind, with Bradley Kautenburg show art 485. Building Stronger Communities Starts with an Open Mind, with Bradley Kautenburg

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484. How Research and Collaboration Is Transforming Erie, with Chris Temple show art 484. How Research and Collaboration Is Transforming Erie, with Chris Temple

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Chris Temple, Director of Communications at Visit Erie. Chris shares how Visit Erie has transformed its destination brand through an extensive research-driven process, positioning Erie as a four-season destination built around authentic experiences, outdoor recreation, and the lifestyle of the Great Lakes. We also discuss how strategic partnerships, community engagement, and thoughtful destination development are helping Erie build momentum while creating lasting benefits for residents and visitors alike. What You Will Learn in This...

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483. Leading with Authenticity and Resilience, with Lauren Bennett McGinty show art 483. Leading with Authenticity and Resilience, with Lauren Bennett McGinty

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Lauren Bennett McGinty, Executive Director of Explore Minnesota. Lauren shares how Minnesota has evolved its destination marketing strategy beyond traditional tourism promotion to focus on storytelling, quality of life, and reputation leadership. We discuss the development of the state's Star of the North brand, how Explore Minnesota responded to unexpected national attention with authenticity and compassion, and why collaboration across agencies, industries, and communities is shaping a stronger future for tourism. Lauren also shares...

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482. Customizable Luxury and Brand Stewardship in Beverly Hills, with Julie Wagner show art 482. Customizable Luxury and Brand Stewardship in Beverly Hills, with Julie Wagner

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Julie Wagner, CEO of the Beverly Hills Conference & Visitors Bureau. Julie shares her journey from the cruise and hotel industries to leading one of the world’s most iconic destination brands. We explore how Beverly Hills continues to evolve while staying true to its legacy, the challenges and opportunities of marketing a globally recognized destination, and the importance of collaboration, innovation, and destination stewardship. Julie also discusses how Beverly Hills is redefining luxury for the next generation of travelers and...

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481. From Port to Community: Rethinking the Cruise Experience, with Shelly Hartfield show art 481. From Port to Community: Rethinking the Cruise Experience, with Shelly Hartfield

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Shelly Hartfield, Vice President of Destinations for Victory Cruise Lines. Shelly shares how her passion for destinations evolved from a career in maritime operations into a role focused on creating meaningful connections between travelers and communities throughout the Great Lakes, St. Lawrence Seaway, Atlantic Canada, and the U.S. East Coast. We explore the power of collaboration in cruise tourism, how unexpected challenges often lead to remarkable guest experiences, and why destination stewardship, community partnerships, and...

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480. The Power of Crazy Solutions and Human Imagination, with John Franklin Rinehart show art 480. The Power of Crazy Solutions and Human Imagination, with John Franklin Rinehart

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with John Franklin Rinehart, founder of Austin Film Crew. We talk in depth about his latest project in Gonzalez, Texas, and the Texas Legacy in Lights project, a full-scale live-action film projected onto the Gonzalez Memorial Museum. With the film, John is helping the community prepare for future visitors by developing new branding and digital assets that reflect the community. What You Will Learn in This Episode: How John moved from a career in music to becoming a leader in experiential storytelling How thinking differently can create...

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On this episode of Destination on the Left, I talk with Lisa Conarton, CEO of LC Elevated Hospitality, who shares compelling examples of what it means to be a leader in the hospitality and tourism industry. We discuss the importance of building trust, why collaboration is key to success, and the difference between ROI and ‘return on experience’ (ROX). Lisa also shares how people can be proactive rather than reactive and why understanding how to go with the flow is so important.

What You Will Learn in This Episode:

  • How Lisa built her career path in hospitality and tourism, moving from convention operations to launching her own destination management consultancy
  • Why earning trust is necessary for leadership and success in hospitality
  • How networking and partnerships have been essential in driving growth for Lisa
  • How Lisa differentiates between ROI (return on investment) and ROX (return on experience), and why focusing on experience benefits both travelers and businesses
  • Why championing creativity encourages authenticity
  • What real-life crisis taught Lisa about letting go, going with the flow, and relying on cultivated partnerships to execute successful events
  • How Lisa approaches partnerships and collaboration, and her examples of coopetition within New York State destination marketing

The Pillars of Hospitality Leadership

From full-service hotel management to destination marketing and now as she builds her own consultancy, Lisa has consistently sought out growth opportunities. Her experience has shown that there are three key areas you have to prioritize:

  1. Earning Trust

Trust has to be earned, particularly in hospitality, where seamless service and reliability are so important. Lisa emphasizes that trust is built over and over and over again, and needs consistency and integrity in every interaction.

  1. Networking and Collaboration

Networking is the avenue to future collaboration and partnerships, which are the real engines behind growth. Not only do great relationships provide support in crisis, but they also lead to opportunities for greater collective achievements. The very definition of coopetition.

  1. Return on Experience (ROX)

While return on investment (ROI) is a familiar metric, Lisa also values “return on experience”—the transformative impact of meaningful, memorable interactions that benefit both guests and the businesses serving them. Planning and execution are vital, but so is the focus on creating memories that resonate long after a trip or event ends.

The Power of Partnerships

Lisa shares the story of a last minute challenge, when with only 24 hours, she had to move a 150-person event when the venue became unusable due to heat. Through her well-established industry relationships, the move was seamless. While meticulous planning is crucial, so is the ability to let go and trust your partners.

From her involvement with New York State’s Destination Marketing Organizations (DMOs) to local industry partnerships, Lisa’s success stories center around shared values and transparent communication. She explains why it’s so important to figure out where each partner fits, recognize strengths, and build collaborations that play to everyone’s best qualities.

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