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412 Pinks & Blues: The Iron-clad Saga

Scaling UP! H2O

Release Date: 03/21/2025

431 Legionella Awareness Month Kickoff! show art 431 Legionella Awareness Month Kickoff!

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Are You Ready to Talk About Legionella?  Every August, we dedicate an entire month to a topic that touches public health, liability, and the core of what water treaters do — yet it’s still misunderstood by many: Legionella.  In this episode, Trace Blackmore kicks off Legionella Awareness Month by returning to the basics. Where did Legionella get its name? What makes it dangerous? And why is there still confusion between a water treatment program and a water management plan?  Tracing It Back: History, Misconceptions, and Missed Conversations  Trace opens with the 1976...

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430 PFAS Regulations and Technologies with Brian Liotta show art 430 PFAS Regulations and Technologies with Brian Liotta

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 “The winning combination will include not just removal—but real destruction of PFAS.” - Brian Liotta PFAS: The Invisible Challenge Reshaping Water Treatment  PFAS chemicals are everywhere—from consumer products to our bloodstream. But as regulations tighten, water treatment professionals must now evolve faster than ever. In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore speaks with , Director of Marketing and Product Development at , about the shifting regulatory landscape and the advanced technologies being developed to monitor, remove, and destroy PFAS compounds. ...

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429 The Life and Career of Jim Lukanich show art 429 The Life and Career of Jim Lukanich

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“You can’t learn it all in one year. You can’t even learn it all in ten.” That single statement from Jim Lukanich captures the spirit of this unforgettable episode.  Returning to the for the first time since Episode 10, joins host to reflect on a remarkable 44-year career in the water treatment industry. From his early days at U.S. Steel to leading technical innovation at Buckman Laboratories, ChemCal, U.S. Water, and Kurita, Jim has been a force for mentorship, learning, and raising the bar in technical excellence.   Building a Career, One Problem at a Time   Jim...

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428 Innovations in Water Treatment with Dr. Jasbir Gill show art 428 Innovations in Water Treatment with Dr. Jasbir Gill

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What happens when a nuclear chemist pivots into industrial water treatment? In this episode, host Trace Blackmore is joined by , President at Water Energy Solutions Inc, whose career spans five decades of breakthrough innovations in water chemistry and sustainability. From developing predictive modeling systems to creating new polymer standards, Dr. Gill shares how scientific rigor and practical experience came together to shape tools still used today.   “We were not just saving water—we were calculating the true cost of energy and environmental impact.” From Nuclear Chemistry to...

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427 July 4th! Entrepreneurship, Water Wells, and the Spirit of Liberty show art 427 July 4th! Entrepreneurship, Water Wells, and the Spirit of Liberty

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“Give Me Liberty or Give Me Death!” - Patrick Henry  Honoring Innovation, Freedom, and Small Business on the 4th of July  In this special Independence Day episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore brings you a rich blend of patriotism, professional insight, and entrepreneurial spirit. Opening with reflections on July 4th traditions—from fireworks to parades—Trace sets the stage for a compelling conversation with Jack Clark, Owner and Founder of 180 Water. As the water industry faces growing demand and generational turnover, Jack offers a bold solution: a replicable...

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426 Sustaining Success: Tom Hutchison on Leading Through Generational Change show art 426 Sustaining Success: Tom Hutchison on Leading Through Generational Change

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In this episode, Trace Blackmore welcomes back , Chairman of the Board, , to reflect on what it really takes to step out of day-to-day leadership—and do it well. As a multi-decade leader in water treatment, Tom shares the personal, professional, and organizational insights that shaped his transition from CEO to chairman and what it means to lead a business into its next generation.  From early succession conversations to the unspoken anxieties of staff, Hutch offers a rare look behind the curtain of legacy-building in industrial water treatment. And as private equity plays a growing...

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425 Smart Technology in Water Treatment with Kevin Kuhne show art 425 Smart Technology in Water Treatment with Kevin Kuhne

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“You don't have to transition your entire business. You just need to start. Small beginnings are okay.”  Revolutionizing Water Treatment Through Smart Tech  In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore welcomes , Founder and President of , for a deep-dive conversation on the emerging role of smart technology and artificial intelligence in water treatment.  With decades of experience leading tech-driven innovation, Kevin unpacks how intelligent systems, edge computing, and real-time data processing are reshaping operations in the field—from cooling towers to...

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424 Chlorine Dioxide Insights with Greg Simpson show art 424 Chlorine Dioxide Insights with Greg Simpson

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A Lifelong Exploration into Chlorine Dioxide  In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, Trace Blackmore welcomes Greg D. Simpson, a recognized authority on chlorine dioxide and a long-time researcher, writer, and technologist in the industrial water treatment space. With decades of hands-on experience and a personal archive of thousands of technical papers, Greg brings unmatched depth to this essential conversation.    From Field Trials to File Cabinets   Greg takes us through his early career, from being tasked to explore chlorine dioxide as an alternative disinfectant on the...

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423 Pushing the Boundaries: Jacob Deak on Innovating Water Treatment Systems show art 423 Pushing the Boundaries: Jacob Deak on Innovating Water Treatment Systems

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In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore interviews , Marketing & Inside Sales Director at , for a deep dive into how innovation is born—not in labs, but in the field. Jake shares the story of Pyxis Lab’s rapid evolution from a lean, hands-on team to an industry leader in developing smart, user-informed water treatment technology.   Building Solutions from Real-World Problems  Jake Deak's journey began during the pandemic, stepping into a role shaped by both legacy and urgency. Working closely with his father and the Pyxis team, he reveals how their approach...

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422 Inside the Association of Water Technologies with John Caloritis show art 422 Inside the Association of Water Technologies with John Caloritis

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In this milestone episode, host Trace Blackmore welcomes of  and current President of the . Together, they explore the strategic evolution of AWT and announce an exciting new partnership that officially makes Scaling UP! H2O the association's podcast partner. This conversation is a rare behind-the-scenes look into how AWT operates, from board decisions to training initiatives, and what the future holds for water treatment professionals who want to lead, grow, and make an impact.   Behind the Boardroom: How AWT Operates at the Top  John Caloritis gives a full picture of how the...

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"Be the iron fist that keeps your water flowing clean and clear." - Trace Blackmore

Welcome back to another insightful Pinks & Blues episode of Scaling UP! H2O! In this episode, host Trace Blackmore dives into the fascinating world of iron in water treatment systems. While iron is essential for life, it can be a major problem in industrial water systems, leading to corrosion, equipment damage, and inefficiencies. This episode unpacks the science behind iron, testing methods, and practical strategies for managing its impact. 

Understanding the Iron Triangle 

To effectively manage iron in water systems, it’s important to understand its different forms. Trace explains the Iron Triangle, breaking down the differences between elemental iron (Fe), ferrous iron (Fe2+), and ferric iron (Fe3+). He discusses how iron moves through water systems and why recognizing these distinctions is critical for water treatment professionals. 

How to Test for Iron Accurately 

Proper testing is key to managing iron levels. Trace details the phenanthroline method, a common technique used to measure iron concentrations in water. He provides best practices for accurate testing, discusses common interferences like molybdates and nitrites, and explains how to adjust testing methods to ensure reliable results.

Corrosion and Iron’s Impact on System Longevity 

Iron is a major contributor to corrosion in water systems, and Trace explains why steel corrodes so easily. He covers the role of corrosion inhibitors and the importance of filtration systems in preventing excessive iron buildup. By managing iron effectively, professionals can protect equipment, reduce maintenance costs, and improve system efficiency. 

Math in Action: Calculating Total Iron in a System 

For those who love applying real-world math, Trace walks through the process of calculating total iron in pounds within a system. He explains how this calculation can help justify maintenance decisions and provide a compelling reason for clients to invest in proper water treatment solutions.

Takeaways: Why Iron Management Matters 

This episode is packed with valuable insights for water professionals looking to improve their approach to iron management. From understanding the science behind iron to implementing better testing and corrosion prevention strategies, this discussion is designed to help you stay ahead in your field. 

Have a water treatment question? Want to hear a topic covered in a future Pinks & Blues episode? Submit your ideas at ScalingUpH2O.com/showideas  —your input helps shape future episodes! And remember, iron might be essential for our bodies, but in water systems, it’s a force to be reckoned with. Mastering iron control is key to maintaining system efficiency and preventing costly damage. Be the iron fist that keeps your water flowing clean and clear!   

Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! 


Timestamps
   

03:20 – Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals

06:44– Water You Know with James McDonald
 

09:35 – Trace talks about Iron Historical Figure 

15:28 – Iron that’s in Water Systems

17:39 – Understanding Corrosion & How It Impacts Your System
 

18:24 – The Iron Triangle 

19:58 – The Phenanthroline Method  


Quotes
 

“Steel is the most recycled material on this planet.”  

“If you’re treating your tests like a task, you’re missing the magic of this industry.”

“Iron might be essential for our bodies, but it can be a real troublemaker when it's dissolved in the water in our systems, so don't let iron catch you off guard.” 


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Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned 

AWT (Association of Water Technologies) 

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Submit a Show Idea 

The Rising Tide Mastermind  

How its Made Steel by How it’s Made Show  

400 Celebrating 2024 and 400 Episodes! 

399 Pinks and Blues: The Science of Serial Dilution 

397 Pinks and Blues: How to look at your tests 
 

Water You Know with James McDonald 

Question
: What is a plastic or rubber device that seals the outside of a reverse osmosis membrane against the inside wall of the pressure vessel to prevent feedwater from bypassing around the membrane element?

2025 Events for Water Professionals 

Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking HERE. 

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