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412 Pinks & Blues: The Iron-clad Saga

Scaling UP! H2O

Release Date: 03/21/2025

458 Hiring Olympics and High-Performance Culture with J.D. Roth show art 458 Hiring Olympics and High-Performance Culture with J.D. Roth

Scaling UP! H2O

"Stay curious. And you only have one reputation. Guard it with your life." Hiring for judgment, not just rehearsed confidence   Industrial water treatment is full of decisions made with incomplete data—on sites, with customers, and inside the business. (Managing Director and Co-owner of ) builds his hiring around that reality. His aim is straightforward: protect the team and the culture by selecting people who can think, collaborate, and lead under pressure. JD frames the organization as a group of people choosing to work toward a common goal: building a better future for...

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457 2026: A New Year with New Intentions show art 457 2026: A New Year with New Intentions

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 Trace Blackmore opens 2026 with a practical reset: how to plan with urgency, sharpen the fundamentals that make troubleshooting easier, and use the tools around this podcast to keep your development moving all year. The 12-Week Year: urgency you can use Annual goals often feel “far away” until December forces focus. The 12-week year flips that dynamic by treating each quarter like a year—creating urgency sooner and giving you four chances to reset and improve. Trace walks through the structure: start with a vision (he uses a three-year example), then choose 3–5 tactical...

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456 The 12 Days of Scaling UP! H2O 2025 show art 456 The 12 Days of Scaling UP! H2O 2025

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 A year-end recap is more than a highlight reel—it’s a practical reset. In this New Year episode, Trace Blackmore walks through 2025 using a “12 Days of the Scaling Up Nation” format, tying together performance, community growth, listener engagement, and the sponsor support that keeps the podcast and its companion tools available at no cost.   Year-end by the numbers   Trace explains how he used to track every stat closely—and how that shifted into an unhealthy measure of self-worth—so the team now uses numbers as feedback, not validation. He notes the...

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455 Mentors, Mindset, and the CWT: Owning Your Water Career with Nella Fergusson  show art 455 Mentors, Mindset, and the CWT: Owning Your Water Career with Nella Fergusson 

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 “So one thing I never do is try to start giving remediation or advice before I truly have understood and diagnosed the problem.”  Mentorship and certifications don’t replace experience—but they can accelerate it when paired with the right mindset and a disciplined approach to learning. (District Manager, Southern California, ), lays out what “growing up” in industrial water treatment actually looks like: repeated exposure to real problems, strong diagnostic habits, and a willingness to keep learning long after year one.  Learning that keeps...

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454 Water Recycling, Innovation, and Industry Wisdom with Dr. Kelle Zeiher show art 454 Water Recycling, Innovation, and Industry Wisdom with Dr. Kelle Zeiher

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 Industrial cooling is one of the biggest levers industrial facilities can pull on water use—and it’s getting harder to ignore as data centers and other high-heat operations grow. Returning guest  (Project Manager at ) breaks down what water reuse looks like when you move past slogans and into the realities of pretreatment, concentrate management, footprint, and cost.  Cooling water reuse: the scale of the opportunity  Dr. Zeiher reframes “drought” beyond rainfall, emphasizing aquifer recharge and the limits of focusing only on household restrictions. She...

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453 Water Risk, Governance, and Community Engagement with Dr. Annette Davison show art 453 Water Risk, Governance, and Community Engagement with Dr. Annette Davison

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Industrial water professionals sit at the intersection of risk, regulation, and community trust. In this episode, (“the water risk doctor”) joins Trace Blackmore to show how disciplined governance, clear supply chain thinking, and community engagement can turn fragmented water systems into coherent, defensible risk management frameworks.  Water risk from source to customer  Annette starts with a simple question most customers never ask: “Where’s your water coming from?” She walks through a conceptual supply chain from source to end point—collection, transfer, treatment,...

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452 UV Innovation and Whole-Building Water Safety with Ron Blutrich show art 452 UV Innovation and Whole-Building Water Safety with Ron Blutrich

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 Entamoeba histolytica nearly ended Ron Blutrich’s scientific career. Instead, it pushed him to rethink how we protect people in multi-family buildings, senior facilities, and dense urban centers from invisible microbiological risks in their drinking water. In this episode, he joins host Trace Blackmore to unpack what whole-building UV can (and can’t) do for Legionella, biofilm, and real-world water safety.  When One Bad Cup of Water Redefines a Career  In the middle of his PhD in molecular genetics, Ron drank from an under-sink reverse osmosis tap at an Airbnb and...

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451 Building a Culture of Innovation and Customer Service with Frank Lecrone show art 451 Building a Culture of Innovation and Customer Service with Frank Lecrone

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What happens when you build a company around one niche, listen obsessively to customers, and never stop improving? In this episode, host Trace Blackmore finally sits down for a full-length conversation with , Founder, President, and CEO of . What started in a small 60' x 60' space in Hanover, Pennsylvania, with three employees, maxed-out credit cards, and endless Staples runs has grown into a 300+-person organization serving industrial water professionals around the world.   Frank shares how AquaPhoenix became “the booth everyone wants to be next to” at...

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450 Wastewater Advocacy and Innovation with Robin Deal show art 450 Wastewater Advocacy and Innovation with Robin Deal

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“The More You Know” - Robin Deal A million-gallon-a-day perspective, distilled into actionable steps. , AquaPure Product Manager at  unpacks how seasoned pros can squeeze more performance—and less sludge—out of industrial wastewater systems without compromising compliance or plant uptime.    From “clear water in a jar” to stable discharge in the field  Robin details a practical jar-testing workflow: start from upstream processes, target pH using hydroxide/sulfide solubility curves, choose the right coagulant (aluminum, iron, calcium, lanthanum, or organics),...

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449 Michael Bourgeois on AWT Partnerships and Professional Growth show art 449 Michael Bourgeois on AWT Partnerships and Professional Growth

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Get stuck in – Michael Bourgeois, CWT How do standards get written in ways that working water treaters can actually meet? In this conversation, AWT Past President, current Related Trade Organization (RTO) Committee Chair, and Chemco Products Company Operations Manager, , explains how AWT’s liaisons collaborate with peer organizations, so guidance reflects field reality—operations, risk, and achievable compliance.  From Field Bags to Board Rooms: Why RTOs Matter  Bourgeois outlines the purpose of AWT’s RTO structure: volunteer liaisons track and influence work at groups...

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"Be the iron fist that keeps your water flowing clean and clear." - Trace Blackmore

Welcome back to another insightful Pinks & Blues episode of Scaling UP! H2O! In this episode, host Trace Blackmore dives into the fascinating world of iron in water treatment systems. While iron is essential for life, it can be a major problem in industrial water systems, leading to corrosion, equipment damage, and inefficiencies. This episode unpacks the science behind iron, testing methods, and practical strategies for managing its impact. 

Understanding the Iron Triangle 

To effectively manage iron in water systems, it’s important to understand its different forms. Trace explains the Iron Triangle, breaking down the differences between elemental iron (Fe), ferrous iron (Fe2+), and ferric iron (Fe3+). He discusses how iron moves through water systems and why recognizing these distinctions is critical for water treatment professionals. 

How to Test for Iron Accurately 

Proper testing is key to managing iron levels. Trace details the phenanthroline method, a common technique used to measure iron concentrations in water. He provides best practices for accurate testing, discusses common interferences like molybdates and nitrites, and explains how to adjust testing methods to ensure reliable results.

Corrosion and Iron’s Impact on System Longevity 

Iron is a major contributor to corrosion in water systems, and Trace explains why steel corrodes so easily. He covers the role of corrosion inhibitors and the importance of filtration systems in preventing excessive iron buildup. By managing iron effectively, professionals can protect equipment, reduce maintenance costs, and improve system efficiency. 

Math in Action: Calculating Total Iron in a System 

For those who love applying real-world math, Trace walks through the process of calculating total iron in pounds within a system. He explains how this calculation can help justify maintenance decisions and provide a compelling reason for clients to invest in proper water treatment solutions.

Takeaways: Why Iron Management Matters 

This episode is packed with valuable insights for water professionals looking to improve their approach to iron management. From understanding the science behind iron to implementing better testing and corrosion prevention strategies, this discussion is designed to help you stay ahead in your field. 

Have a water treatment question? Want to hear a topic covered in a future Pinks & Blues episode? Submit your ideas at ScalingUpH2O.com/showideas  —your input helps shape future episodes! And remember, iron might be essential for our bodies, but in water systems, it’s a force to be reckoned with. Mastering iron control is key to maintaining system efficiency and preventing costly damage. Be the iron fist that keeps your water flowing clean and clear!   

Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! 


Timestamps
   

03:20 – Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals

06:44– Water You Know with James McDonald
 

09:35 – Trace talks about Iron Historical Figure 

15:28 – Iron that’s in Water Systems

17:39 – Understanding Corrosion & How It Impacts Your System
 

18:24 – The Iron Triangle 

19:58 – The Phenanthroline Method  


Quotes
 

“Steel is the most recycled material on this planet.”  

“If you’re treating your tests like a task, you’re missing the magic of this industry.”

“Iron might be essential for our bodies, but it can be a real troublemaker when it's dissolved in the water in our systems, so don't let iron catch you off guard.” 


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Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned 

AWT (Association of Water Technologies) 

Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses 

Submit a Show Idea 

The Rising Tide Mastermind  

How its Made Steel by How it’s Made Show  

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399 Pinks and Blues: The Science of Serial Dilution 

397 Pinks and Blues: How to look at your tests 
 

Water You Know with James McDonald 

Question
: What is a plastic or rubber device that seals the outside of a reverse osmosis membrane against the inside wall of the pressure vessel to prevent feedwater from bypassing around the membrane element?

2025 Events for Water Professionals 

Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking HERE. 

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