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455 Mentors, Mindset, and the CWT: Owning Your Water Career with Nella Fergusson 

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Release Date: 12/19/2025

468 Born into Water Treatment: Tom Brandvold on AWT’s Origin Story and a Life in the Industry show art 468 Born into Water Treatment: Tom Brandvold on AWT’s Origin Story and a Life in the Industry

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Tom Brandvold, CWT, has lived industrial water treatment from the inside out. In this conversation, he traces that path from sweeping floors and running sample bottles as a kid to leading Premier Water and Energy Technology and serving as a former president of . The result is not just a career story. It is a useful look at how credibility, collaboration, and standards are built over time in this industry. How Association of Water Technologies (AWT) was formed One of the most valuable parts of this discussion is Tom’s explanation of how Association of Water Technologies (AWT) began. The...

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AWT’s in‑person technical training is a keystone for developing competent water treaters. Yet classroom knowledge only matters when it survives the drive home and emerges later in the field. In this second conversation with —National Sales Manager at and head of AWT’s education committee—Trace Blackmore uncovers how stories, math, and memorable mistakes turn theory into intuition.  Why training keeps evolving  Dan explains that the rewrites courses every year. Instructors refine content, delivery and demonstrations, not for novelty’s sake, but because...

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 “So one thing I never do is try to start giving remediation or advice before I truly have understood and diagnosed the problem.” 

Mentorship and certifications don’t replace experience—but they can accelerate it when paired with the right mindset and a disciplined approach to learning. Nella Fergusson, CWT (District Manager, Southern California, Garratt-Callahan), lays out what “growing up” in industrial water treatment actually looks like: repeated exposure to real problems, strong diagnostic habits, and a willingness to keep learning long after year one. 


Learning that keeps you employable
 

Water treatment evolves. Nella contrasts today’s challenges with what she faced 15 years ago and explains why complacency is the fastest path to getting left behind. She describes water treatment as industry-specific by nature—food processing cooling and commercial real estate operations don’t behave the same, don’t shut down the same way, and can’t be serviced the same way. 


Diagnosing before prescribing
 

Her troubleshooting process starts with questions: the system’s history, what changed, when symptoms appeared, and how critical the impacted use is. She emphasizes water sampling across different times of day and refuses to offer remediation before a proper diagnosis—because misdiagnosis creates extra problems instead of solving the original one. 


Career decisions, culture, and the 80/20 risk
 

Nella shares a candid career detour: leaving Garratt-Callahan for GE Water/Suez, then realizing quickly what she lost—support, resources, and “family”—before returning. She frames many job moves through an 80/20 lens: chasing a missing 20% can cost the 80% that already works, especially when recruiters’ incentives don’t align with yours. 


Credentials that signal competence—and protect end users
 

Nella explains why she pursued the CWT: an industry-agreed benchmark that reflects years of varied problem-solving. She also discusses ASSE 12080 recertification and why correct sampling, shipping, labeling, and interpretation matter—particularly in Legionella and water safety work. Customers may fear testing; she argues the goal is to find risk where maintenance is weak, then build site-specific procedures that facilities can actually sustain with their staffing. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! 

 

Timestamps   

02:22 - Trace message: CWT prep course + planning for 2026 

09:17 - Water You Know with James McDonald 

10:48 - Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals  

14:49 - Interview with Nella Fergusson, CWT, (District Manager, Southern California, Garratt-Callahan) 

16: 27- Ongoing education + how the industry has changed 

21:06 - Nella’s troubleshooting approach: history, what changed, sampling, impact, don’t prescribe before diagnosing 

31:00 - Nella’s 80/20 rule for deciding whether to leave a company 

34:22 - Why she pursued CWT + value of certifications in the industry 

40:15 - Getting results immediately + confidence while testing

Connect with Nella Fergusson

Email: nfergusson@g-c.com 

Website: http://www.garrattcallahan.com/  

LinkedIn: Nella Fergusson, CWT | LinkedIn  

 

Guest Resources Mentioned  

ASSE 12080 Certification – ASSE International 

Why ASSE Certifications Matter – Garratt‑Callahan 

Impact of Cooling Tower Downtime in Food & Beverage Operations – Aggreko 

Scheduling Off‑Peak HVAC Maintenance – Facility Response Group 

Parenting the Strong-Willed Child: The Clinically Proven Five-Week Program for Parents of Two- to Six-Year-Olds, Third Edition 

 

Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned 

AWT (Association of Water Technologies) 

AWT - Value of Certification

Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses 

Submit a Show Idea 

The Rising Tide Mastermind

 

Water You Know with James McDonald 

Question: What is the piece of equipment called that is a heat exchanger placed in the gas passage between the boiler and the stack designed to recover exhaust gas heat into the boiler feedwater? 

 

2025 Events for Water Professionals 

Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking HERE.