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451 Building a Culture of Innovation and Customer Service with Frank Lecrone

Release Date: 11/21/2025

455 Mentors, Mindset, and the CWT: Owning Your Water Career with Nella Fergusson

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“So one thing I never do is try to start giving remediation or advice before I truly have understood and diagnosed the problem.” Mentorship and certifications don’t replace experience—but they can accelerate it when paired with the right mindset and a disciplined approach to learning. (District Manager, Southern California, ), lays out what “growing up” in industrial water treatment actually looks like: repeated exposure to real problems, strong diagnostic habits, and a willingness to keep learning long after year one. Learning that keeps...

454 Water Recycling, Innovation, and Industry Wisdom with Dr. Kelle Zeiher

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453 Water Risk, Governance, and Community Engagement with Dr. Annette Davison

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452 UV Innovation and Whole-Building Water Safety with Ron Blutrich

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Entamoeba histolytica nearly ended Ron Blutrich’s scientific career. Instead, it pushed him to rethink how we protect people in multi-family buildings, senior facilities, and dense urban centers from invisible microbiological risks in their drinking water. In this episode, he joins host Trace Blackmore to unpack what whole-building UV can (and can’t) do for Legionella, biofilm, and real-world water safety. When One Bad Cup of Water Redefines a Career In the middle of his PhD in molecular genetics, Ron drank from an under-sink reverse osmosis tap at an Airbnb and...

451 Building a Culture of Innovation and Customer Service with Frank Lecrone

Scaling UP! H2O

What happens when you build a company around one niche, listen obsessively to customers, and never stop improving? In this episode, host Trace Blackmore finally sits down for a full-length conversation with , Founder, President, and CEO of . What started in a small 60' x 60' space in Hanover, Pennsylvania, with three employees, maxed-out credit cards, and endless Staples runs has grown into a 300+-person organization serving industrial water professionals around the world. Frank shares how AquaPhoenix became “the booth everyone wants to be next to” at...

450 Wastewater Advocacy and Innovation with Robin Deal

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“The More You Know” - Robin Deal A million-gallon-a-day perspective, distilled into actionable steps. , AquaPure Product Manager at unpacks how seasoned pros can squeeze more performance—and less sludge—out of industrial wastewater systems without compromising compliance or plant uptime. From “clear water in a jar” to stable discharge in the field Robin details a practical jar-testing workflow: start from upstream processes, target pH using hydroxide/sulfide solubility curves, choose the right coagulant (aluminum, iron, calcium, lanthanum, or organics),...

449 Michael Bourgeois on AWT Partnerships and Professional Growth

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Get stuck in – Michael Bourgeois, CWT How do standards get written in ways that working water treaters can actually meet? In this conversation, AWT Past President, current Related Trade Organization (RTO) Committee Chair, and Chemco Products Company Operations Manager, , explains how AWT’s liaisons collaborate with peer organizations, so guidance reflects field reality—operations, risk, and achievable compliance. From Field Bags to Board Rooms: Why RTOs Matter Bourgeois outlines the purpose of AWT’s RTO structure: volunteer liaisons track and influence work at groups...

448 2025 Halloween Special

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Holidays don’t usually line up with release day—but this year they did. In this Halloween special, Trace uses the horror-movie trope of the “scary boiler room” to deliver practical, field-tested reminders for safer sampling, clearer thinking, and better decisions in high-heat, low-light spaces. Boiler Rooms, Myths, and Real Risks From Nightmare on Elm Street to Tower of Terror, pop culture loves dim steam, tight corridors, and clangy pipe-labyrinths. Trace contrasts that imagery with what matters to pros: light, ventilation, a stable work surface, and time for...

447 Unlocking Team Potential with Culture Index with Randi Fargen

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Hiring in industrial water is slow, specialized, and expensive to get wrong. In this conversation, executive advisor explains how a two-question, 5–7 minute Culture Index survey becomes an ongoing management and coaching system—not just a hiring screen—so owners cut turnover risk, speed onboarding, and improve day-to-day communication. From “assessment fatigue” to a usable language Most teams dread long assessments. This survey takes minutes and measures four primary traits—autonomy, sociability, pace/patience, conformity—plus three...

446 Leveraging the Culture Index for Business Success with Danielle Scimeca and Conor Parrish

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How do you make “right person, right seat” a repeatable system—not a hope? ’s (President) and returning guest (Chief Growth Officer) share how the Culture Index became a decisive tool for coaching, hiring, and a company-wide restructure. If you lead field service, customer service, or operations in industrial water, this conversation offers practical patterns you can apply the next time a role feels misaligned or a 1:1 stall on surface-level updates. From intuition to instrumentation Trace opens with the origin story and quickly moves to why Danielle and Conor adopted...

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What happens when you build a company around one niche, listen obsessively to customers, and never stop improving?

In this episode, host Trace Blackmore finally sits down for a full-length conversation with Frank Lecrone, Founder, President, and CEO of AquaPhoenix Scientific. What started in a small 60' x 60' space in Hanover, Pennsylvania, with three employees, maxed-out credit cards, and endless Staples runs has grown into a 300+-person organization serving industrial water professionals around the world.

Frank shares how AquaPhoenix became “the booth everyone wants to be next to” at AWT, why they built their entire business around industrial water treatment instead of trying to be everything to everyone, and how a simple continuous improvement system now generates hundreds of ideas a year from frontline team members. He also pulls back the curtain on acquisitions and private equity, explaining EBITDA in plain language, how to think about “add-backs,” and what owners should understand long before they think about selling.

Whether you’re leading a growing company, running a route, or thinking about your own “second chapter,” this conversation is a masterclass in culture, courage, and caring deeply about the people you serve.

Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge!

Timestamps

02:20 - Trace Blackmore shares a recap from the recent 2025 AWT Conference, The Hang, and a Blood Donation Story

14:02 - Water You Know with James McDonald

15:20 - Upcoming Conference for Water Professionals

18:16 – Introduction of Frank Lecrone, CEO of AquaPhoenix Scientific (eight years in the making)

24:52 – Why Hanover?

26:59 – Supporting AWT

37:38 – Color-coded caps & QR Codes

42:30 – Learning from mistakes

45:31 – Core Values

48:26 – Acquisitions and Culture

1:03:32 – Valuations and EBITDA

Quotes

“We didn’t grow by doing everything for everyone. We grew by doing exactly what one market needed and wanted—and then doing it better every year.”

“The lack of information is almost always interpreted negatively. That’s why you have to over-communicate, especially during acquisitions.”

“EBITDA equals freedom. The more EBITDA you have, the less anybody can tell you what to do with your own company.”

“We’re not perfect. We screw things up like everyone else—but we fix it, and we fix it quickly, and we make doing business with us as easy as possible.”

“I don’t want to be the smartest person in the room. I want great people around me, giving ideas and pushing things forward, so I’m not the bottleneck.”

“Business is like standing in a bathtub while the water rises. It feels fine until it reaches your mouth. The trick is noticing when it’s at your knees and fixing the bottleneck then.”

“We give a darn. We have ‘GAS’—Give a #$%@—and if we can make it right and do it better, we absolutely will.”

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