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448 2025 Halloween Special

Scaling UP! H2O

Release Date: 11/05/2025

475 Inside the Boiler: Inspection, Failure Analysis, and Photography with Cheryl Heiser show art 475 Inside the Boiler: Inspection, Failure Analysis, and Photography with Cheryl Heiser

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A boiler failure can create pressure quickly: production is down, emotions are high, and the water treater may be the first person blamed. of . joins Trace Blackmore, CWT, to walk through a more disciplined way to evaluate boiler issues by looking beyond chemistry alone.     Why Boiler Failures Need a Broader Lens  Cheryl brings field experience from the OEM boiler side, conventional water treatment, and purified tannin boiler treatment. Her perspective is rooted in the idea that no two boilers are the same. Design, operating conditions, fuel, history, circulation, steam...

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474 Questions from the Scaling UP! Nation about Trace show art 474 Questions from the Scaling UP! Nation about Trace

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  Every career in industrial water treatment is shaped by decisions, mentors, credentials, systems, and the willingness to keep learning. In this special mailbag-style episode, Trace Blackmore, CWT, answers questions from the Scaling UP! Nation about how he entered water treatment, why he started the podcast, what professional credentials have meant to him, and what he is still working to improve. This conversation gives water professionals a practical look at the habits behind a long career in the industry: getting involved early, documenting customer conversations, building strong...

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473 From Oil to Water: How the Water Midstream Sector Was Born with John Durand show art 473 From Oil to Water: How the Water Midstream Sector Was Born with John Durand

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Industrial water professionals often think about water in terms of treatment, compliance, reuse, and operational risk. John Durand brings a different but closely connected view: water as infrastructure, water as a managed resource, and water as a strategic part of energy development.  , one of the early pioneers of the water midstream sector and CEO of Magnificent Desolation, LLC, joins Trace Blackmore to explain how produced water moved from a disposal challenge to a large-scale infrastructure opportunity.  From Disposal Model to Managed Resource  John describes how...

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472 Finding and Fixing the Invisible: Chris MacDonald on Pressure Pipe Inspection and Rehab show art 472 Finding and Fixing the Invisible: Chris MacDonald on Pressure Pipe Inspection and Rehab

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"Document everything." Spring startup season exposes more than operational stress. It also reveals what happened months earlier when systems were laid up poorly, maintenance steps were skipped, or warning signs were documented but not acted on. In this episode, Trace Blackmore connects that reality to a broader infrastructure problem: hidden damage inside pressure piping systems that operators often cannot see until a leak, rupture, or budget crisis forces action.     Why hidden pressure pipe problems are so expensive  , CEO and President of , explains why pressure pipe...

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471 Biofilms, Biocides, and TTPC: A Deep Dive with Dr. Jeff Kramer show art 471 Biofilms, Biocides, and TTPC: A Deep Dive with Dr. Jeff Kramer

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Biofilm is not a fringe issue in cooling systems. As Dr. Jeff Kramer explains, it is a given. That matters because biofilm affects heat transfer, contributes to corrosion, and can serve as a reservoir for Legionella in treated systems. In this conversation, Trace Blackmore and Dr. Kramer examine what experienced water treaters should be looking for when choosing and evaluating a microbiological control program.   Biofilm as an operating problem Dr. Jeff defines biofilm as a community of microorganisms attached to a surface and held together by an external polymeric matrix. From there,...

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470 Wastewater Enthusiast: Training the Next Generation Online show art 470 Wastewater Enthusiast: Training the Next Generation Online

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has built a following by doing something wastewater operators have needed for a long time: making practical technical education easier to access. In Episode 470, he explains why that matters, how he built , and what the industry still gets wrong about training, certification, and knowledge transfer. From test prep to true understanding A major thread in this conversation is the gap between passing an exam and actually understanding plant operations. Shawn reflects on his own early experience with certification prep, where classes helped him recognize test questions but did not always help him...

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469 ABMA: The Oldest Association Meets Today’s Challenges show art 469 ABMA: The Oldest Association Meets Today’s Challenges

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Boiler performance rarely depends on a single decision. It depends on design, controls, maintenance, workforce capability, and, as this conversation makes clear, the quality of water treatment. and explain how is addressing those realities by connecting manufacturers, representatives, suppliers, and field stakeholders around education and practical guidance. Why ABMA still matters in a changing boiler market ABMA has been in place since 1888, but this discussion is not about preserving old structures for their own sake. Scott and Shaunica describe an association that has expanded beyond...

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468 Born into Water Treatment: Tom Brandvold on AWT’s Origin Story and a Life in the Industry show art 468 Born into Water Treatment: Tom Brandvold on AWT’s Origin Story and a Life in the Industry

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Tom Brandvold, CWT, has lived industrial water treatment from the inside out. In this conversation, he traces that path from sweeping floors and running sample bottles as a kid to leading Premier Water and Energy Technology and serving as a former president of . The result is not just a career story. It is a useful look at how credibility, collaboration, and standards are built over time in this industry. How Association of Water Technologies (AWT) was formed One of the most valuable parts of this discussion is Tom’s explanation of how Association of Water Technologies (AWT) began. The...

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467 From PhD to Pump Rooms: Jake Elliott on Wastewater, Efficiency, and Saying “Yes” Wisely show art 467 From PhD to Pump Rooms: Jake Elliott on Wastewater, Efficiency, and Saying “Yes” Wisely

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What happens when a water chemist leaves the lab and heads to the pump room? knows firsthand. A former PhD researcher who studied resource recovery from trade‑waste customers, Jake now manages accounts at in Melbourne, working with cooling towers, boilers, chemical dosing rigs and wastewater treatment systems. He joins host Trace Blackmore to discuss how rigorous research, regulatory compliance and process automation translate into practical field work for industrial water treatment professionals. From PhD Research to Industrial Practice Jake’s academic background informs the way he...

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466 Stories, Math, and “Never Again” Moments: Inside AWT Technical Training with Dan Merritt (Part 2) show art 466 Stories, Math, and “Never Again” Moments: Inside AWT Technical Training with Dan Merritt (Part 2)

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AWT’s in‑person technical training is a keystone for developing competent water treaters. Yet classroom knowledge only matters when it survives the drive home and emerges later in the field. In this second conversation with —National Sales Manager at and head of AWT’s education committee—Trace Blackmore uncovers how stories, math, and memorable mistakes turn theory into intuition.  Why training keeps evolving  Dan explains that the rewrites courses every year. Instructors refine content, delivery and demonstrations, not for novelty’s sake, but because...

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Holidays don’t usually line up with release day—but this year they did. In this Halloween special, Trace uses the horror-movie trope of the “scary boiler room” to deliver practical, field-tested reminders for safer sampling, clearer thinking, and better decisions in high-heat, low-light spaces.

 

Boiler Rooms, Myths, and Real Risks 

From Nightmare on Elm Street to Tower of Terror, pop culture loves dim steam, tight corridors, and clangy pipe-labyrinths. Trace contrasts that imagery with what matters to pros: light, ventilation, a stable work surface, and time for observation. He urges listeners to advocate for basics—task lighting, a table, and smarter workflow—so test results are usable, repeatable, and defensible. 


Sampling That Won’t Scare Your Data
 

Sampling isn’t the job—thinking is. Trace reviews essentials: collect safely (sample coolers when available), fill bottles with no headspace, cool samples to about “hand-holdable” (~100°F) before running tests, and remember temperature and prep sensitivities—especially sulfite tests that use starch. Poor cooling “cooks the potatoes,” skewing readings. Tie every test to a hypothesis about system behavior; use results to prove or disprove what you think is happening. 


Observation > Automation
 

Don’t just grab a bottle and walk. Log pressures and temperatures (DA/FT), verify blowdown practices (including surface blow and any cooling devices), check the sample cooler, and review boiler logs. Pair disciplined observation with testing so numbers have context. 


Stretch Past the “Butterfly Line”
 

Halloween also prompts a leadership challenge: if you haven’t felt “butterflies” lately, are you still stretching? Trace revisits public-speaking growth, previews his AWT presentations (presenting craft, Start With Why, Working Genius, and processes), and encourages pros to reframe nerves as excitement on the way to competence. 

Make the boiler room less cinematic and more professional. Better lighting, better setup, and hypothesis-driven testing produce better calls—and better outcomes for customers. 

Listen to the full conversation above. Explore related episodes below. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! 

 

Timestamps

07:05 - Why Hollywood loves boiler rooms 

10:10 — Disney’s Tower of Terror queue through a “boiler room” and hidden Mickeys 

13:31 – Don’t just sample – Observe 

15:02 - Safety first: sample coolers when available; protect yourself from burns 

35:21 - Water You Know with James McDonald 

47:05 – Halloween Throwback 

 

Connect with Scaling UP! H2O 

Website:  www.scalinguph2o.com 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/scalinguph2o/ 

YouTube: Scaling Up! H2O Podcast - YouTube 

 

Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned 

AWT (Association of Water Technologies)

Annual Convention and Exposition 2025 

Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses 

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Start with Why Ted Talk 

The Rising Tide Mastermind 

The Hang

Ep 166 The One Where We Celebrate Halloween 

Ep 325 Rising Together: Conquering Challenges through Collective Support 

Ep 427 July 4th! Entrepreneurship, Water Wells, and the Spirit of Liberty 

 

Water You Know with James McDonald 

Question: What is the pressure of a fluid called that's measured relative to "atmospheric" pressure?
 

2025 Events for Water Professionals 

Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking HERE. 

 

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