loader from loading.io

459 From Wastewater to Resource: Water Reuse with Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva

Scaling UP! H2O

Release Date: 01/16/2026

460 Building Boiler Talent: Fundamentals, Online Training, and Better Partnerships with Eric Johnson show art 460 Building Boiler Talent: Fundamentals, Online Training, and Better Partnerships with Eric Johnson

Scaling UP! H2O

Boilers can feel intimidating the first time you step into a boiler room—the heat, the noise, the pressure gauge, and the weight of knowing that mistakes can be costly. Trace Blackmore opens with a reminder that boilers deserve respect, not fear—and that learning fundamentals is how you replace mystique with clarity.  The talent gap behind the boiler room door , Founder and CEO of , explains why boiler expertise is becoming harder to replace. He points to the shrinking pipeline of boiler-trained technicians—historically strengthened by Navy steam...

info_outline
459 From Wastewater to Resource: Water Reuse with Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva show art 459 From Wastewater to Resource: Water Reuse with Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva

Scaling UP! H2O

Industrial water professionals are increasingly pulled into conversations about scarcity, resilience, and “where the next gallon comes from.”  , CEO and Co-founder of  frames water reuse as an implementation challenge more than a technology gap—and explains where the practical starting points are when the scope feels overwhelming.   Moving reuse forward when the technology already exists  Waterloop Solutions was founded to accelerate implementation: clarifying end-use quality, identifying post-treatment needs on the back end of...

info_outline
458 Hiring Olympics and High-Performance Culture with J.D. Roth show art 458 Hiring Olympics and High-Performance Culture with J.D. Roth

Scaling UP! H2O

"Stay curious. And you only have one reputation. Guard it with your life." Hiring for judgment, not just rehearsed confidence   Industrial water treatment is full of decisions made with incomplete data—on sites, with customers, and inside the business. (Managing Director and Co-owner of ) builds his hiring around that reality. His aim is straightforward: protect the team and the culture by selecting people who can think, collaborate, and lead under pressure. JD frames the organization as a group of people choosing to work toward a common goal: building a better future for...

info_outline
457 2026: A New Year with New Intentions show art 457 2026: A New Year with New Intentions

Scaling UP! H2O

 Trace Blackmore opens 2026 with a practical reset: how to plan with urgency, sharpen the fundamentals that make troubleshooting easier, and use the tools around this podcast to keep your development moving all year. The 12-Week Year: urgency you can use Annual goals often feel “far away” until December forces focus. The 12-week year flips that dynamic by treating each quarter like a year—creating urgency sooner and giving you four chances to reset and improve. Trace walks through the structure: start with a vision (he uses a three-year example), then choose 3–5 tactical...

info_outline
456 The 12 Days of Scaling UP! H2O 2025 show art 456 The 12 Days of Scaling UP! H2O 2025

Scaling UP! H2O

 A year-end recap is more than a highlight reel—it’s a practical reset. In this New Year episode, Trace Blackmore walks through 2025 using a “12 Days of the Scaling Up Nation” format, tying together performance, community growth, listener engagement, and the sponsor support that keeps the podcast and its companion tools available at no cost.   Year-end by the numbers   Trace explains how he used to track every stat closely—and how that shifted into an unhealthy measure of self-worth—so the team now uses numbers as feedback, not validation. He notes the...

info_outline
455 Mentors, Mindset, and the CWT: Owning Your Water Career with Nella Fergusson  show art 455 Mentors, Mindset, and the CWT: Owning Your Water Career with Nella Fergusson 

Scaling UP! H2O

 “So one thing I never do is try to start giving remediation or advice before I truly have understood and diagnosed the problem.”  Mentorship and certifications don’t replace experience—but they can accelerate it when paired with the right mindset and a disciplined approach to learning. (District Manager, Southern California, ), lays out what “growing up” in industrial water treatment actually looks like: repeated exposure to real problems, strong diagnostic habits, and a willingness to keep learning long after year one.  Learning that keeps...

info_outline
454 Water Recycling, Innovation, and Industry Wisdom with Dr. Kelle Zeiher show art 454 Water Recycling, Innovation, and Industry Wisdom with Dr. Kelle Zeiher

Scaling UP! H2O

 Industrial cooling is one of the biggest levers industrial facilities can pull on water use—and it’s getting harder to ignore as data centers and other high-heat operations grow. Returning guest  (Project Manager at ) breaks down what water reuse looks like when you move past slogans and into the realities of pretreatment, concentrate management, footprint, and cost.  Cooling water reuse: the scale of the opportunity  Dr. Zeiher reframes “drought” beyond rainfall, emphasizing aquifer recharge and the limits of focusing only on household restrictions. She...

info_outline
453 Water Risk, Governance, and Community Engagement with Dr. Annette Davison show art 453 Water Risk, Governance, and Community Engagement with Dr. Annette Davison

Scaling UP! H2O

Industrial water professionals sit at the intersection of risk, regulation, and community trust. In this episode, (“the water risk doctor”) joins Trace Blackmore to show how disciplined governance, clear supply chain thinking, and community engagement can turn fragmented water systems into coherent, defensible risk management frameworks.  Water risk from source to customer  Annette starts with a simple question most customers never ask: “Where’s your water coming from?” She walks through a conceptual supply chain from source to end point—collection, transfer, treatment,...

info_outline
452 UV Innovation and Whole-Building Water Safety with Ron Blutrich show art 452 UV Innovation and Whole-Building Water Safety with Ron Blutrich

Scaling UP! H2O

 Entamoeba histolytica nearly ended Ron Blutrich’s scientific career. Instead, it pushed him to rethink how we protect people in multi-family buildings, senior facilities, and dense urban centers from invisible microbiological risks in their drinking water. In this episode, he joins host Trace Blackmore to unpack what whole-building UV can (and can’t) do for Legionella, biofilm, and real-world water safety.  When One Bad Cup of Water Redefines a Career  In the middle of his PhD in molecular genetics, Ron drank from an under-sink reverse osmosis tap at an Airbnb and...

info_outline
451 Building a Culture of Innovation and Customer Service with Frank Lecrone show art 451 Building a Culture of Innovation and Customer Service with Frank Lecrone

Scaling UP! H2O

What happens when you build a company around one niche, listen obsessively to customers, and never stop improving? In this episode, host Trace Blackmore finally sits down for a full-length conversation with , Founder, President, and CEO of . What started in a small 60' x 60' space in Hanover, Pennsylvania, with three employees, maxed-out credit cards, and endless Staples runs has grown into a 300+-person organization serving industrial water professionals around the world.   Frank shares how AquaPhoenix became “the booth everyone wants to be next to” at...

info_outline
 
More Episodes

Industrial water professionals are increasingly pulled into conversations about scarcity, resilience, and “where the next gallon comes from.”

 Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva, CEO and Co-founder of Waterloop Solutions frames water reuse as an implementation challenge more than a technology gap—and explains where the practical starting points are when the scope feels overwhelming.  


Moving reuse forward when the technology already exists
 

Waterloop Solutions was founded to accelerate implementation: clarifying end-use quality, identifying post-treatment needs on the back end of existing plants, and building risk management plans that fit real operational and regulatory expectations. The conversation stays grounded in what slows projects down (time, permitting, funding, and public acceptance) and where progress can be made without reinventing the toolbox. 


Centralized vs. decentralized: why “less regulated” can move faster
 

Europe’s agricultural reuse regulation (noted as coming into effect in June 2023) created shared minimum requirements, but also uncertainty around permitting and responsibility at the local level. In contrast, decentralized reuse is described as an “early adopter” space—often driven by innovative building projects (gray water separation, rooftop rain capture) and, in some cases, easier implementation from scratch than retrofits. 


What matters to industrial listeners: partnerships, autonomy, and distance
 

For industrial teams, Dr. Veronika points out opportunities for synergistic partnerships with municipalities and agriculture—balanced against the realities of infrastructure distance and cost. She also makes the case for industrial autonomy: decoupling from conventional sources through internal reuse to protect future production when municipal needs take precedence. 


Communication and the “toilet to tap” problem
 

Public perception remains a stubborn barrier. Dr. Veronika calls out the long-lasting impact of “toilet to tap” framing and why first impressions can derail technically sound reuse projects. 

Listen to the full conversation above. Explore related episodes below. Stay engaged, keep learning, and continue scaling up your knowledge! 

 

Timestamps 

03:58 - Trace Blackmore shares how “Pinks and Blues” questions get chosen—and where listeners can submit them 

05:05 - Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals  

07:42 – Words of Water with James McDonald 

11:47 – Meet Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva and why Trace invited her from LinkedIn insights 

12:20 — Veronika’s path: UMD → Colorado School of Mines → PhD at Technical University of Munich

15:40 — Why Waterloop Solutions started: progress is slow, but implementation support is missing 

19:40 — Decentralized reuse: why interest is rising, and why it can be easier to implement in buildings 

20:20 — EU agricultural reuse regulation (June 2023): minimum quality, crop types, and risk plan uncertainty 

23:40 — Unique barriers by sector: municipal timelines, industrial ROI, and the difficulty of reaching farmers 

33:20 — Lowest-hanging fruit: municipal reuse for street cleaning and parks; industrial autonomy via internal reuse 

45:00 — Women and young professionals: visibility, role models, and why the sector’s willingness to help matters 

47:20 — Where to learn more: US EPA resources, EU work underway, and Australia as a reuse leader 

 

Quotes

“It's okay to ask questions.” 

“But actually, all the technology needed for it already exists.” 

“What I think is awesome in the US, for example, that you guys are really pursuing this direct potable reuse now.” 

“I think these are all valid options to have kind of in the water management portfolio on a local level and also on a regional level.” 

 

Connect with Dr. Veronika Zhiteneva

Email: vzhiteneva@gowaterloop.com  

Website: Home – Waterloop Solutions 

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vzhiteneva/   

Waterloop Solutions: Overview | LinkedIn 

 

Guest Resources Mentioned  

Brave New World by Aldous Huxley (Paperback)  
 
European Commission's Water reuse: New EU rules to improve access to safe irrigation 

Intermezzo Paperback – by Sally Rooney (Author)  

Radical Candor: Fully Revised & Updated Edition: Be a Kick-Ass Boss Without Losing Your Humanity by Kim Scott  

US EPA State Water Reuse Resources 

US EPA Water Reuse Information Library 

US EPA's “A Framework for Permitting Innovation in the Wastewater Sector Report” 

US Department of Energy’s About the BuildingsNEXT Student Design Competition 

The Corporate Sustainability Reporting Directive (CSRD) 
 
Water Reuse Europe Policy and Regulations 

 

Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned 

AWT (Association of Water Technologies)  

AWT Technical Training Seminars  

Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses  

Submit a Show Idea  

The Rising Tide Mastermind 

 

Words of Water with James McDonald 

Today's definition is a device for removing condensate from a steam line without allowing the steam to escape.  Can you guess the word or phrase?    

 

2026 Events for Water Professionals 

Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking HERE. 

 

Rising Tide Mastermind, Scaling UP! H2O, Podcast, Water Treater, Industrial Water Treatment