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247. Social Engineering: Chris Hadnagy

Release Date: 03/18/2025

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“Understanding the ways humans make decisions is integral in everything we do from maintaining security to communicating with the people in your life. Social engineering skills, when used properly, can make your life so much better.”

– Chris Hadnagy

Welcome back to Turmeric & Tequila with your host, Kristen Olson, where we dive into the delicate balance of disruption and dialogue in pursuit of a better way. In this episode, we're thrilled to have Chris Hadnagy, a distinguished leader in the field of social engineering. Kristen and Chris explore the complexities of human behavior, uncovering the motives behind our actions and the profound influence of ethical social engineering. From Chris's diverse career path to his work in cybersecurity and his nonprofit organization, the Innocent Lives Foundation, this conversation is rich with insights on communication, ethical influence, and the intersection of human connection with modern technology. Tune in as we discuss the importance of emotional intelligence, the evolving landscape of AI, and the ways we can use social engineering practices for the greater good. If you're passionate about understanding and improving human interactions, this episode is a must-listen.

Time Stamps:

00:00 Sponsors Shoutout and Highlights

05:48 Ethical Hacking Framework Development

09:22 Creative Pretexts for Infiltration

11:01 Cybersecurity: Protecting, Educating, Enhancing Lives

14:47 Geolocating Dark Web Exploiters

17:22 Addressing Digital Sextortion Challenges

19:54 Supportive Parenting Through Mistakes

23:09 Instant Gratification's Hidden Costs

28:28 Podcaster on Human Stories & Challenges

30:48 Workshops on Elicitation and Non-verbals

34:12 Parental Safety Advice Scenario

36:28 Apologizing Builds Respect

40:00 AI: A Double-Edged Sword

43:30 Connect with Me on LinkedIn

47:10 Family Over Fortune

49:39 "Life Skills Through Sports"

Chris Hadnagy:

Chris Hadnagy is the Founder and CEO of Social-Engineer, LLC. During Chris’ 19 years in information security, he created the world’s first social engineering framework and newsletter. He has also hosted the first social engineering-based podcast. Chris is the Founder, Executive Director, and Board Member, for the Innocent Lives Foundation, a nonprofit organization that identifies anonymous child predators and helps bring them to justice. Having written five books on social engineering, Chris is also a well-known author. His most recent book, “Human Hacking: Win Friends, Influence People and Leave Them Better Off for Having Met You,” was released January 5, 2021. Chris leads the way in educating people about social engineering. He created the world’s first Social Engineering Capture the Flag (SECTF) to raise awareness of this serious threat. Chris is also an Adjunct Professor of Social Engineering for the University of Arizona’s NSA designated Center of Academic Excellence in Cyber Operations (CAE-CO). And he also lectures and teaches about social engineering around the globe. Moreover, he was invited to speak at the Pentagon and other high-security facilities. Chris works with some of the world’s leaders in scientific research for the purpose of acquiring a deeper understanding of social engineering. Notably, Chris authored a book with Dr. Paul Ekman regarding the use of nonverbal communication by social engineers. Chris is certified as an Offensive Security Certified Professional (OSCP), as well as an Offensive Security Wireless Professional (OSWP). He is also the creator of the Social Engineering Pentest Professional (SEPP), Certified Ethical Social Engineer (CESE), and Master’s Level Social Engineering (MLSE), certifications.

Chris' published books include:

– Social Engineering: The Art of Human Hacking

– Unmasking the Social Engineer: The Human Element of Security

– Phishing Dark Waters: The Offensive and Defensive Sides of Malicious E-mails

– Social Engineering: The Science of Human Hacking 2nd Edition

– Human Hacking: Win Friends, Influence People, and Leave Them Better Off for Having Met You

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