399 Holocaust, Racism and Kindness in Humans - a personal story with Dr. Robert Wolf
Release Date: 04/20/2025
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info_outlineWe explore the courage to confront tyranny and the roots of empathy through personal legacy and historical insight. Zoë shares reflections on billionaire-owned media and the future of truth-seeking in journalism, and updates us on her Australian Alpine walking track adventure and upcoming Kickstarter for Power Games.
Then, we welcome Dr. Robert Wolf, author of Not a Real Enemy, a gripping biography of his father’s extraordinary journey through Nazi and Communist Hungary.
Rob shares the harrowing yet hopeful story of his father’s four-time escape from tyranny, how he rebuilt his life as a doctor in America, and why this story of resilience, compassion, and miracles needs to be told now more than ever.
Together, we explore the enduring impact of antisemitism, the challenge of confronting hate in all its forms, and the role of storytelling in forging empathy and leadership.
SHOWNOTES are here:
https://www.zoerouth.com/podcast/truth-seeking-journalism
Power Games: https://www.zoerouth.com/power-games
My new Substack: https://substack.com/@zoerouth
Planet Human:
Billionaire-owned media reshapes truth, trust, and narratives.
https://www.npr.org/2025/02/26/nx-s1-5309725/jeff-bezos-washington-post-opinion-section
Key Quotes:
"Leadership will require us to ask: how do we craft a shared reality in a polarised world?" – Zoë Routh
"Leadership is from within. Lead by example... trust is a part of it. Integrity is a part of it." – Dr. Robert Wolf
"When people say, 'nobody cares about antisemitism', I say: then we must be the ones who do." – Dr. Robert Wolf
Questions Asked:
1. What compelled you to bring your father’s story into the world through this book?
2. How did your father’s story shift your own understanding of leadership, resilience, and legacy?
3. What does standing up to tyranny look like today?
4. How can we foster real change in how we teach empathy and history in classrooms and beyond?
Take Action:
1. Educate yourself on the history of antisemitism and its modern forms.
2. Seek stories that challenge your assumptions—especially those you might prefer to ignore.
3. Share stories of courage from your own heritage or community, and listen deeply to others.
4. Introduce discussion groups or reading circles around books like Not a Real Enemy to build cultural understanding and empathy in your workplace or community.
Tip of the Week
Reflect on the narratives that shaped your worldview. Whose voices were missing—and what can you do this week to listen for them?
Key Moments
00:00 Introduction and Weekly Theme
00:26 Billionaire-Owned Media and Truth
01:47 The Future of Independent Journalism
03:27 The Fragmentation of Shared Narratives
04:42 Personal Updates and Upcoming Adventures
05:14 Kickstarter Preview and Exclusive Offers
06:02 Addressing Antisemitism and Racism
08:01 Interview with Dr. Robert Wolf
10:11 Dr. Wolf's Father's Story of Survival
26:27 The Real Enemy: A Personal Reflection
27:07 Impact of the Book on Readers
27:36 Global Antisemitism and Islamophobia
28:26 The Role of Education in Combating Hate
34:07 Promoting the Book and Its Message
37:39 Fast Three: Quickfire Questions
42:45 Final Thoughts and Reflections