Beyond Resilience: What it Really Takes to Build, Lead, and Last
Release Date: 07/24/2025
In the Hot Seat
There are no silver bullets, but there is a pattern to success. This episode of In The Hot Seat welcomes back fintech strategist and author Leda Glyptis to unpack what it truly takes to build, lead, and last in an industry where 95% of startups fail. From redefining success as “the art of not dying” to the difficult introspection founders have to do when they hit a wall, Leda and Denise offer up an alternative to toxic hustle culture and break down why experience, boundaries, discipline and leadership are key. Key Takeaways. [0:00] Denise Johansson puts Leda Glyptis, author and...
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From podiums to businesses. Elite sports and high-performing businesses operate under the same unforgiving principles: driving performance requires inspired leadership, clear goals, strict planning, good team dynamics and a healthy serving of resilience. The question isn’t if you need all this but whether or not you have what it takes to implement it. The hot seat welcomes paralympic powerhouse Birgit Skarstein, Chief Inspiration Officer at Enfuce, to clear a path forward. Key Takeaways. [0:00] Denise Johansson puts Birgit Skarstein, Paralympian gold medallist, world — and European...
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Waiting for regulation is boring, you don’t need permission to shake up the world! Marja Innanen, Executive Director of UN Global Compact Network Finland, Monika Liikama, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Enfuce, and Juspal Manic, CRO at Featurespace, sit in the hot seat for a provocative discussion on UN Sustainable Development Goal 16's overlooked challenges of peace, justice, and strong institutions. Listen in for hot takes on impending regulation and what to do about them, why SDGs are only ever an opportunity for growth, and why you should aim for 100% when outsmarting fraudsters. ...
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Wild West or world of opportunity for fintechs? Charles Kerrigan, Partner at CMS London, and Matt Williamson, SVP at Endava jump into the hot seat. Listen in for insights on what the most recent AI revolutions might mean for fintechs, the types of regulations being put forward, the impacts of horizontal versus vertical regulation, why GenAI is an expert tool for experts, and what early-adopting organisations might be doing wrong when it comes to their data. Key Takeaways. [0:00] Denise Johansson puts Charles Kerrigan, Partner at CMS London, and Matt Williamson, SVP at Endava, in the hot...
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Ready for a steamy tech love story?. Thorbjørn Fink, COO of Pleo joins Denise for a spicy chat in the hot seat. Learn from Pleo and Enfuce’s love story about building winning partnerships, maintaining great communication, making compromises and navigating the occasional rough patch. Denise and Thorbjørn discuss learning the right love languages, building trust, and dealing with a partner if the shoe doesn’t fit. Key Takeaways. [0:00] Denise Johansson puts Thorbjørn Fink, COO of Pleo and longtime business partner, in the hot seat. [3:42] Being a supplier is one thing, being a...
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Are you ready for money in the Metaverse? David Birch, payment industry legend and Author of Money in The Metaverse joins the hot seat to discuss what fintechs need to know about the future of payments in the Metaverse, what exactly the Metaverse is and why it isn’t just a virtual space and how it might help level the playing field when it comes to being more inclusive, and tackling fraud! Key Takeaways. [0:00] Denise Johansson puts David Birch, payment industry legend and Author of Money in The Metaverse, in the hot seat. [3:30] David points out the fundamental differences in...
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Financial fraud is a full-blown epidemic. Geoff White, Investigative Journalist and Author of Rinsed jumps in the hot seat to explain the current landscape, what the future might look like, and how getting back to the basics of employee engagement might be the best defense companies have against fraudsters. Key Takeaways. [0:0] Denise Johansson puts Geoff White, Investigative Journalist and Author of Rinsed, in the hot seat. [2:24] Social media feeds are feeding the fraud epidemic while a cashless society removes friction for laundering and money routing. [4:53] Geoff explains how the...
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Can banks do what needs to be done to stay alive? How can the legacy players stave off the next ice age? Leda Glyptis, recovering banker and author, and Monika Liikamaa Co-Founder and Co-CEO of Enfuce burn up the hot seat with a no-holds-barred discussion on how parasitic relationships, hedging bets, and corporate FOMO killed off countless fintechs with great potential! And, just wait till they dish on why banks need to start moving away from in-house builds and into partnerships to truly succeed in a customer-driven world! Key Takeaways. [0:0] Denise Johansson puts Leda Glyptis,...
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Disrupt the status quo and give power to the people! Felipe Hillard from the Bank of London, jumps in the hot seat to tackle the notion of control (and why sharing is a good thing), how inclusivity helps align payment solutions with customer needs, why choosing value over profit puts you squarely in the eye of the finance revolution, and why honing your purpose and focus in the fintech space can save you from going extinct. Key Takeaways. [0:0] Denise Johansson puts Felipe Hillard, Chief Client Officer at the Bank of London, in the hot seat. [2:01] The historical context and current...
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What does an AI future mean for fintech? Matthew Gardiner, from A1 AI, jumps in the hot seat for a burning discussion on what fintechs need to do today to be part of an AI future, how fraudsters provide a great learning opportunity, and why you need to start using AI in your organization today. Key Takeaways [0:0] Denise Johansson puts Matthew Gardiner, founder of A1 AI, in the hot seat. [3:15] Matthew shares how long he has been learning about AI. [4:23] Why this AI revolution cycle is the most important one to date as we walk into the supercomputing age. [5:46] Matthew shares where...
info_outlineThere are no silver bullets, but there is a pattern to success. This episode of In The Hot Seat welcomes back fintech strategist and author Leda Glyptis to unpack what it truly takes to build, lead, and last in an industry where 95% of startups fail. From redefining success as “the art of not dying” to the difficult introspection founders have to do when they hit a wall, Leda and Denise offer up an alternative to toxic hustle culture and break down why experience, boundaries, discipline and leadership are key.
Key Takeaways.
- [0:00] Denise Johansson puts Leda Glyptis, author and fintech strategist, in the hot seat.
- [3:35] The failure rate for digital transformation is enormous. Leda set out to find a pattern.
- [5:06] Resilience as part of a success story is impossible to avoid, and it manifests in two ways.
- [7:28] The art of not dying.
- [9:36] How hustle culture has evolved into an adversarial - and unhealthy - philosophy.
- [12:29] Without ever dismissing youth, experience plays a large role in success stories.
- [14:22] Boundaries are critical for founders. Leda explains how the types of founder relationships can affect working relationships.
- [18:04] Leda touches on the importance of discipline. But not just any old discipline. You have to spend time on the right things.
- [19:24] Leda’s unhelpful advice for leaders who may feel stuck, as well as two possible paths to navigate out of a bind.
- [22:19] An advisory board is precious only if you have time for it. Don’t burn those bridges.
- [24:35] What Beyond Resilience can offer founders to help with their digital transformation.
- [27:26] Leda’s closing words: the work is hard, and it’s not for everyone.
- [28:13] Denise signs out until the next time she puts an industry leader in the hot seat.
People.
- Guest Leda Glyptis, Fintech strategist, Author, and former banker.
- Host Denise Johansson, Co-CEO and Co-Founder of Enfuce, a female-founded fintech helping drive business growth, solve customer challenges, and extend financial inclusion.
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Guest Quotes (edited).
- 95% of startups fail. Is there a pattern to success? The short answer is: yes, but it's not easy. So on some level, “thanks for nothing.” — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
- Resilience manifests in two ways. The first is going through a painful process of failure and being the type of lunatic to go again, and the second is the ability to do really hard things when it seems counterintuitive. — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
- If you have managed to scale your business, get traction in your market, and make money, that is a success story. So the art of not dying is where I set the bar for success. — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
- In business, you will never have enough money, time and energy to do the things you want. So, trade-offs will be needed daily. Unless you've negotiated your benchmarks, everything becomes the hill you die on. — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
- If you're hitting a wall, you need to look around you and say, “Have I got the right people around me?” — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
- One of the phrases that came up a lot in the book is “The version of me that started this can't finish it.” But the reality is that if you're hitting a wall, it's a people question, and the answer might be you. — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
- But the reality is, your board is always an exam. And it should be. Your advisory board is the place where you can go in and go, “I have no idea what to do now.” — Leda Glyptis, InTheHotSeat
Denise Quotes (edited).
- Just being resilient is not enough. Is there a pattern for success that we can see, knowing that there is no silver bullet for anything in life? — Denise Johansson, InTheHotSeat
- We should define our success in its own right, without comparing it to bigger brands or longer success stories. — Denise Johansson, InTheHotSeat
- 10 years ago, hustle culture defined FinTech founders. So when we launched, people’s reactions were “You look nothing like FinTech founders!”, “How can you succeed unless you go all-in 24/7 for three years in a garage?” And we believed that it couldn’t be the only way. — Denise Johansson, InTheHotSeat
- It wasn't only about the people on the board. It was our investment in spending time with them, in taking the time to listen to their experience. Because you can't just sit back and relax and hope someone will bring you all the answers. — Denise Johansson, InTheHotSeat
- Within payments, change won't be overnight; it will evolve. When you look back five, 10 years, that's when you see the big changes that have happened. You never see it overnight. — Denise Johansson, InTheHotSeat