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The Political Football That Is Immigration

Imperfect Mens Club

Release Date: 07/25/2024

Where Our Belief Systems Come From show art Where Our Belief Systems Come From

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Mark introduces the episode about belief systems in the context of the fires in Southern California Remember…Jim is a California native still living in the Bay Area and Mark has lived in Florida since 1990 Two very different perspectives and responses to natural disasters! Jim says it’s personal because he has friends and family in the fire zone He brings in our tag line and framework. He says we’ll try and find some good in all of it. He cites our 5 areas with focus on worldview Jim share some of his preparation for the episode. He asks Mark to read the definition of “belief...

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The Post Election Paradigm Shift show art The Post Election Paradigm Shift

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Mark introduces Episode 1 of Season 4 with the topic of a paradigm shift. A shift in the way the country is moving with the election of Donald Trump and the push back against “woke” Jim introduces the wheel and worldview as a likely connection to the topic. He believes the shift is well on it’s way and we can see and hear evidence of it as more people open up post election Jim has some examples and topics he wants to discuss The first one is COVID What did covid change - communication Second is BLM/DEI. Neither were sustainable Third is The 2024 election 4th is Artificial Intelligence...

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AI...What The Hell Do We Know? show art AI...What The Hell Do We Know?

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We recorded this Dec 23, 2024. We decided to sneak one in during Christmas week and when we connected for the pre game, neither of us had any ideas about what might make a good topic Then we shared a couple of real "what just happened" stories and AI was a common theme. So we decided to share our genius I didn't edit or listen to this episode for the first time in 3 years. I think it'll be good Learn how to make fun of yourself and recognize how little you know Mark & Jim

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Planning For What's Next - What Would Jim Rohn Do? show art Planning For What's Next - What Would Jim Rohn Do?

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Hey all. We began with a New Years, year-end, goal setting theme within the context of some JIm Rohn quotes What we ended up with is an in depth reflection on Jim Rohn's wisdom and how much of it might be very helpful as we plan for what's next ---------------- Mark leads with year-end, new year and goal setting as topics. The context is the wisdom of Jim Rohn. Our Jim loves Rohn and brought some quotes as foundations for our episode Jim says it’s the past, present and future approach He reflects on being in sales and the goal setting and metrics of sales Jim shares his opinion of Jim Rohn...

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Know Thyself - The Magic Of Self Awareness show art Know Thyself - The Magic Of Self Awareness

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Mark introduces the topic of self awareness. He shares that their “pregame” discussion was very self reflective. He suggests that the time of year, as well as some other personal events from Jim’s life and Mark’s have the guys a bit mired in self reflection and self awareness Mark reads a couple of quotes Jim brought to the recording. One secular (Stoic) and one Biblical (Thomas) Jim shares some context for his quotes and shares his position on self awareness and what’s going on in his life Jim reflects on yesterday being the 5 year anniversary of his father’s death. He says to...

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The Holidays -  More People More Problems show art The Holidays - More People More Problems

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Mark introduces the episode and frames it around the holidays, the challenges therein and the notion that “the more people the more problems” Jim says the topic is timely and he connects it to our flywheel of life…all starting with the self. He shares his opinion on the more people topic and heightened emotions Mark adds New Years and all the prep before the holidays. He cites the pressure the woman are under Jim laughs about being through 50 of these. He says it means more, the younger you are…we’ve seen this movie Mark talks about the evolution from childhood to present holiday...

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Life Is One Big 80/20 Rule show art Life Is One Big 80/20 Rule

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Mark introduces the episode with some context about where today's topic came from Jim had a speech to give last week and on the drive he teed up our last episode about writng a letter to your 21 year old self In that episode we mentioned the 80/20 rule, aka, The Pareto Principle He talked about how he wove it into his speech and how it resonate with the audience Then the guys broke down the history of the rule and how universal it's application became over time Both guys gave examples of it in their lives with an emphasis on work/business/productivity Then Jim went over the multitude of other...

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A Letter To Your 21 Year Old Self show art A Letter To Your 21 Year Old Self

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Mark introduces the episode and reflects on the “pregame” discussion with Jim. Jim is giving a speech in a few days to a group or around 60 to 80 college students at San Jose State in the dept of Design and construction and he wants to give them career advice and life advice to help them with the transition from school to life Jim brings the wheel into play and shares some context for his upcoming talk. Who the audience is and the topics to be discussed Jim expands upon the idea of the letter he recommends students write or could write to be read later in life Jim starts to talk about the...

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The Election - What Happened And What Do We Do Now? show art The Election - What Happened And What Do We Do Now?

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Mark starts off introducing the topic which revolves around the presidential election of 2024. What do we do now? Jim and Mark are more interested in addresing what actually happened, why it may have happened and what we might expect to happen next What do we do now? We went back and forth about the blue team and red team. No judgement It's not what happens to you, it's how you respond... We talked about elitism and messaging. How the blue team continued the division and condescension We discussed how diverse the turnout was from the red team (ironically) We left on an optimistic note. The...

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How Simple Words Can Influence Effective Persuasion show art How Simple Words Can Influence Effective Persuasion

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Mark introduces the topic of communication and within that general topic, the subtopic of persuasion. He then emphasizes the value of having a framework. He puts our framework in perspective Jim chimes in about the idea of having a framework and emphasizes the IMC framework Jim shares his 5 W’s framework and how helpful it has been for him in a variety of projects. How it adds perspective for both parties He shares the value of effective people being clear Jim asks Mark about his framework Mark shares his childhood influences around communication and then his framework What do you say? How...

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Mark introduces the topic of immigration and draws a thick line between legal and illegal immigration. He’s very pro immigration and very much opposed to illegal immigration. He says there are many different lenses to look through at this issue

Jim jumps in and identifies that this topic falls into worldview on our flywheel. He mentions that Europe and in particular Italy are wrestling with open borders too. It’s impacting culture and religious beliefs. Jim has seen this while traveling

Mark agrees and brings up his brother who has been flying as for 35 years. He mentions Paris specifically

Jim agrees and doesn’t remember Paris being like this years ago. Crime, homelessness and garbage

Mark thinks we abuse the word compassion and distinguishes between those that are fleeing bad circumstances and those who are criminals

Jim takes it even further and suggests that illegals are stealing our resources while legal immigrants and citizens suffer. Jim shares that California just passed a law giving free healthcare to illegals. What about us?

Mark shares that Jim’s experience comes from international travel around his sports background. Mark helped many immigrants with visas and green cards during his staffing career

Mark gives more context to his experience. Legal immigrants are the most opposed to illegal immigration

Jim talks about his grandparents and how they strived to be American first, Mexican and Italian second. He also says that culture might come with them, but not necessarily religion. Some are escaping religious persecution

Mark mentions that we all came here escaping persecution from British rule. He says crime is now increasing in non border towns and if say anything about illegal immigrant crime you’re called a racist

Mark also mentions his two worst trends coming from this beyond crime. Sex trafficking and Fentanyl

Jim asks to take the conversation positive and asks Mark to share his immigration experience helping immigrants who wanted to stay get visas and eventually green cards

Mark goes into great detail about a program he ran helping graduates from other countries get jobs and financial assistance with their green cards after 3 years

Both guys agree that these immigrants have strong appreciation for America and are n to shy about showing it

Both guys agree “we don’t have a country without them”

Then the guys move into a discussion about what happens when you give free stuff to illegal immigrants…or anyone for that matter

Mark connects the entitlement issue with defunding police and liberal DAs..recipe for disaster

Jim pulls the conversation back to positive and Mark tells the story about a new home being built right next to him and his positive interaction with the crew. All immigrants

Jim brings up the Irish in the first part of the 20th century and Mark, being from Boston chimes in

He brings up the notion of people (legal an d illegal) who are “well intentioned”

Mark says we should figure out who is well intoned and whose not earlier in the process and then asks, if Trumps wins, how’s he gonna get the criminals out. Also how many legal immigrants can we absorb fro a resources standpoint. Then brings up the condition of the “sanctuary cities” and how over run they are now…oops

Mark bring back up his experience in Boston with the Italians and Irish communities

Jim suggest that kids born here of illegal parents.. What do we do with the kids. It’s a tough topic to figure out

Mark says both sides need to talk, even if only about the Fentanyl and the kids

Jim then tells his two immigration stories about a few people he helped and their circumstances

One was a girl from Venezuela and her friend who came here illegally as a kid so he has no papers and thus cannot travel outside the country

The other was about the captain of the USA Olympic rugby 7’s team who Jim helped get papers so he could leave the country

He then remembers a third story helping some Tongan kids with papers who as a result couldn’t get scholarships. Both ended up playing D1 and degrees

Mark says the bottom line, the system is broken and we’re not doing anything other than fighting over it

Ellis Island comes up as an example of a decent system

Jim notes that we’re not having enough babies and the system doesn’t work without enough people. Immigrants really help with this problem

Both guys agree that both sides of the aisle seem to want to keep this a their own blunt intstrument in the political races

Jim exposes the Democrat’s “immigration” bill that the Republicans didn’t sign it…it was full of Ukraine money

Mark says conflict sells ads and likes.

Mark ends with this is complex, but it needs to b e fixed