Sales Reinvented
In the world of sales, the relentless pressure to perform can take a toll on physical and mental health. But what if the secret to sustained sales success wasn’t just about hitting targets, but also about how you care for your body and mind? On this episode of the Sales Reinvented podcast, I sat down with Jamie Crosbie, TEDx speaker, sales leader, and founder of Proactivate, to explore the powerful link between fitness and professional sales performance. Here’s how building habits around health can elevate not just your mood, but your sales results. Outline of This Episode [01:20]...
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B2B sales leader Kent Kononoff is back with us on the show to share his expertise on the crucial, and often overlooked, connection between physical fitness and sales performance. Drawing from over 25 years of experience, Kent shares how discipline, consistency, and resilience developed through fitness routines can directly improve outcomes in the sales world. The conversation uncovers Kent’s favorite daily habits for staying energized, the role of nutrition and sleep, and practical strategies for overcoming the lifestyle challenges sales professionals often face. Whether it’s hiking...
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Jarrod Gies brings more than just sales wisdom to the table; he’s also a dedicated fitness coach, kickboxing instructor, and advocate for the powerful connection between physical fitness and professional success. Jarrod shares practical insights on how routines like morning walks, strength training, and mindful meal prepping are not just good for the body but are vital boosters for energy, focus, and resilience in high-pressure sales roles. He explains how discipline in the gym translates directly to discipline in the office, and why making time for recovery and hydration is just as crucial...
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What if the key to unlocking these capabilities lies not in another sales workshop, but in a pair of running shoes or a set of gym weights? On this episode of the Sales Reinvented podcast, I talk with Randy Neufeld, President and GM at Kubota Thunder Bay, who shares how his journey from sluggish and overweight to fit and focused transformed not just his health, but his entire sales career. Outline of This Episode [00:00] The role of fitness in building strong customer relationships and leading high-performing teams. [04:50] Consistency and planning ahead are key to effective workouts. [08:24]...
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Managing energy through fitness is vital for sales success, as Steve Whittington, President of Roadmap, go-to-market strategist, and mountain climber, well knows. Steve offers insights into the routines and habits that boost resilience, focus, and motivation in this demanding profession. From lead climbing and HIIT training to the importance of making fitness sacred, Steve highlights how prioritizing well-being can directly impact confidence, stress management, and ultimately, sales results. Steve shares actionable tips on bringing your best self to every client interaction, and shares a...
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Ian Cartwright thrives on maintaining headspace through disciplined organization, both physically and mentally. Drawing inspiration from his training routine, he likens his approach to rowing—focusing on executing every stroke perfectly rather than worrying about the outcome. For Ian, success in sales, much like athletic performance, comes from controlling the controllables: dedicating time to preparation, fitness, and structure. By keeping his environment and routines in order, Ian believes the desired results will naturally follow.Joining me is Ian, a New Zealand-based sales coach,...
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There’s a powerful link between physical fitness and professional sales performance, and my guest, Nick Kane, founder and managing partner of Janek Performance Group, joins me to dig into the details this week. With over 25 years of experience, Nick shares compelling insights on how building healthy habits and maintaining physical well-being can sharpen your focus, increase energy, boost confidence, and fortify resilience—essentials for thriving in the demanding world of sales. From morning routines and movement throughout the workday to the importance of treating health as an investment,...
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On the show this week, I’m joined by renowned sales expert Mark Hunter—also known as "The Sales Hunter"—for a dynamic conversation about the powerful link between physical fitness and sales performance. Mark shares personal stories and actionable insights, drawing from decades of experience, including his global speaking and best-selling books like "A Mind for Sales" and "High Profit Prospecting." We explore how daily fitness habits foster energy, resilience, and relentless discipline—essential ingredients for thriving in the demanding world of professional sales. You’ll hear...
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Karen Kelly’s approach to corporate sales has always gone beyond scripts and talk tracks—it’s rooted in her personal commitment to fitness and wellbeing. Early in her career, Karen set herself apart not just through her expertise, but through the discipline of starting each day with a run. Her colleagues quickly came to recognize that when she arrived fresh from her morning exercise, Karen was “unstoppable.” This daily ritual gave her mental clarity, energy, and stamina for the long days and tough meetings ahead. Unlike others who needed a caffeine boost by midafternoon, Karen found...
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This week on the show, we welcome Denis Champagne—a trilingual sales coach, elite athlete, and creator of the Body Business Balance framework—for a powerful conversation all about the link between physical fitness and sales performance. Drawing on over 35 years of experience in international sales leadership and coaching, Denis shares how athletic discipline, strength training, and healthy lifestyle choices can transform not only your personal well-being but also your professional sales results. From the value of discipline over motivation, to practical advice on building resilience...
info_outlineI welcome back renowned persuasion expert and bestselling author Jay Heinrichs. Jay, widely celebrated for his book “Thank You for Arguing,” returns to share insights from his latest book: “Aristotle’s Guide to Self-Persuasion: How Ancient Rhetoric, Taylor Swift, and Your Own Soul Can Help You Change Your Life.”
Jay dives into the personal journey that inspired the book—a year-long experiment where he applied the classical tools of rhetoric not just to business or negotiation, but to overcoming his own struggles with motivation, self-doubt, and a significant physical setback.
Using a daunting mountain-running challenge as the backdrop, Jay explores how reframing your internal dialogue and negotiating with your mind and body can lead to surprising breakthroughs, both professionally and personally.
Outline of This Episode
- [03:41] How Jay improved his negotiation skills through personal adversity.
- [07:04] An overview of mastering negotiation skills overview.
- [10:22] Honing negotiation skills while coping with chronic pain and limited mobility.
- [15:37] Evaluate desires vs. needs, question materialism, and align actions with one's true self for self-worth and persuasion.
- [19:04] Ancient Greeks explored self-dialogue, changing negative self-talk, and reframing thoughts can improve one's mindset.
- [23:32] Mind training is the practice of convincing your body to go beyond its perceived limits.
The Art of Persuading Yourself
After years spent teaching organizations how to persuade, he was challenged to turn those tools inward during a period marked by low motivation, self-pity, and a debilitating physical ailment. Jay explains how much harder it is to separate yourself as a negotiator and client when you are both the persuader and the persuaded.
Inspired by Aristotle’s teachings and his desire for change, Jay embarked on an experiment: Could the classical tools of rhetoric, updated for the modern age, help him overcome deep-seated doubts and achieve what seemed impossible?
The Self-Persuasion Experiment
The crux of Jay’s journey was a literal mountain—Mount Moosilauke in New Hampshire, an Olympic training ground with a 3.7-mile run and a 2,800-foot elevation gain. At nearly 58 years old, told by doctors he might never walk again, Jay set a goal to become the first person over 50 to “run his age” up the mountain, climbing it in fewer minutes than his age in years.
The process was nothing short of transformational. It demanded significant lifestyle changes: losing an eighth of his body weight, training for hours each day, giving up alcohol, and enduring a groundbreaking (and painful) medical procedure.
As he struggled to reach his goal, Jay leaned on rhetorical strategies—not just to stay motivated, but to redefine his relationship with challenge, pain, and self-doubt.
Reframing Reality Through Rhetoric
One of the episode’s standout lessons is the power of “reframing”—a quintessential rhetorical move. Jay describes how hyperbole, often dismissed as mere exaggeration, can become a tool for motivation: “What if you can believe in throwing something beyond yourself and then chase after it like a dog after a ball?”
In this way, ambitious (even seemingly impossible) goals can become motivational hyperboles, stretching our perceived limits and moving us beyond inertia. He also draws from Aristotle’s lesser-known work, On the Soul.
Here, the concept of the “ideal self” or “soul” becomes the internal audience you must convince. The three classical elements of ethos—craft, caring, and cause—become the benchmarks of persuasion, not just with others, but with that idealized version of yourself.
Negotiation as a Daily Practice
Whether you’re persuading a client, navigating a difficult deal, or pushing your limits in training, the process is the same: a series of negotiations with your goals, excuses, fears, and aspirations.
Jay’s year of self-persuasion wasn’t about achieving physical greatness; it was about discovering happiness and gratitude, negotiating, ultimately, for a better relationship with oneself.
Watts highlights the universal nature of this lesson, referencing cinematic moments of grit and perseverance, and reminds us that the real challenge is not just winning the deal, but winning yourself over, again and again.
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