170. Supporting the Supporters: Insights for Caregivers and Families Navigating Mental Health With Michelle D. Sherman, PhD LP ABPP and DeAnne M. Sherman
Release Date: 12/24/2024
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info_outlineHey Warriors Unmasked family! Chuck Thuss here, bringing you a truly meaningful episode that’s close to my heart. In Episode 170, I had the honor of sitting down with Dr. Michelle Sherman and her mom, Deanne Sherman, two incredible women who are shining a much-needed light on an often-overlooked group: the supporters. Whether you’re a spouse, sibling, friend, or child of someone managing mental health challenges or trauma, this episode is packed with insights, tools, and encouragement just for you.
Dr. Sherman, a clinical psychologist with over 30 years of experience, and Deanne, a mental health advocate and teacher, share their wealth of knowledge and personal stories about how to navigate the complex role of supporting someone who is struggling. From the emotional toll it can take to the importance of self-care, their conversation is a game-changer for anyone who has ever felt overwhelmed, lonely, or burnt out while caring for someone they love.
Key Takeaways from the Episode:
- Recognizing the Caregiver’s Role: Often, those who support loved ones with mental health challenges feel invisible. Dr. Sherman and Deanne emphasize the importance of seeing and honoring the sacrifices these caregivers make.
- Self-Care is Essential, Not Optional: As Deanne beautifully states, taking care of yourself isn’t a luxury—it’s a necessity. Whether it’s taking five minutes to breathe, delegating responsibilities, or finding a community of support, self-care is the foundation of being able to help others.
- Advocating for Support: Caregivers often feel guilty about asking for help, but Dr. Sherman reminds us that we can’t pour from an empty cup. Whether it’s leaning on a friend, joining a support group, or simply taking time for yourself, these small steps make a big difference.
- The Stigma Around Mental Illness: Michelle and Deanne also address the societal stigma that isolates both individuals managing mental illness and their families. They challenge listeners to lean in, rather than withdraw, when someone in their circle is struggling.
Tools and Resources for Caregivers
The Shermans recently co-authored two incredible books:
- Loving Someone with a Mental Illness or History of Trauma: Skills, Hope, and Strength for Your Journey
- I’m Not Alone: A Teen’s Guide to Living with a Parent Who’s Experienced a Mental Illness or History of Trauma
These books are more than just informative—they’re interactive guides packed with reflection exercises, practical skills, and stories from people who’ve been there. Whether you’re an adult or a teen, you’ll find actionable advice to help you navigate the challenges of supporting someone with mental health issues while maintaining your own well-being.
You can find their books at Seeds of Hope Books or on Amazon.
A Message to Caregivers
One of the most powerful takeaways from this episode is the reminder that caregivers matter too. Dr. Sherman and Deanne’s mantra, “We see you, we hear you, and we’re with you,” resonates deeply. If you’ve ever felt alone in your journey, know that there is a community of people who understand and want to support you.
Listen Now
To hear the full conversation with Dr. Michelle and Deanne Sherman, including their personal stories, practical advice, and the mission behind their work, tune into Episode 170 of Warriors Unmasked. Share this episode with someone who could use the encouragement, and remember—you are not alone.
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Episode Minute By minute:
- 00:00 Introduction – Chuck welcomes Dr. Michelle Sherman and DeAnne Sherman and sets the stage for the conversation.
- 03:45 Understanding the Caregiver's Role – Dr. Sherman discusses the invisible yet critical role of caregivers and their impact on loved ones' mental health.
- 08:20 Self-Care for Caregivers – DeAnne shares personal experiences and actionable self-care strategies for those supporting others.
- 14:10 Addressing Mental Health Stigma – A discussion about breaking down barriers to open conversations around mental health and trauma.
- 20:05 Advocacy and Empowerment – How the Shermans empower families through workshops, mentoring, and community involvement.
- 27:15 Family Stories and Lessons Learned – Personal anecdotes that highlight the strength and resilience required in caregiving.
- 35:30 Tools and Resources for Caregivers – Dr. Sherman talks about their co-authored books and other supportive resources for families.
- 42:00 Final Thoughts and Encouragement – Closing the conversation with a message of hope and unity for caregivers and families.