Sales Reinvented
Ian Cartwright thrives on maintaining headspace through disciplined organization, both physically and mentally. Drawing inspiration from his training routine, he likens his approach to rowing—focusing on executing every stroke perfectly rather than worrying about the outcome. For Ian, success in sales, much like athletic performance, comes from controlling the controllables: dedicating time to preparation, fitness, and structure. By keeping his environment and routines in order, Ian believes the desired results will naturally follow.Joining me is Ian, a New Zealand-based sales coach,...
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There’s a powerful link between physical fitness and professional sales performance, and my guest, Nick Kane, founder and managing partner of Janek Performance Group, joins me to dig into the details this week. With over 25 years of experience, Nick shares compelling insights on how building healthy habits and maintaining physical well-being can sharpen your focus, increase energy, boost confidence, and fortify resilience—essentials for thriving in the demanding world of sales. From morning routines and movement throughout the workday to the importance of treating health as an investment,...
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On the show this week, I’m joined by renowned sales expert Mark Hunter—also known as "The Sales Hunter"—for a dynamic conversation about the powerful link between physical fitness and sales performance. Mark shares personal stories and actionable insights, drawing from decades of experience, including his global speaking and best-selling books like "A Mind for Sales" and "High Profit Prospecting." We explore how daily fitness habits foster energy, resilience, and relentless discipline—essential ingredients for thriving in the demanding world of professional sales. You’ll hear...
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Karen Kelly’s approach to corporate sales has always gone beyond scripts and talk tracks—it’s rooted in her personal commitment to fitness and wellbeing. Early in her career, Karen set herself apart not just through her expertise, but through the discipline of starting each day with a run. Her colleagues quickly came to recognize that when she arrived fresh from her morning exercise, Karen was “unstoppable.” This daily ritual gave her mental clarity, energy, and stamina for the long days and tough meetings ahead. Unlike others who needed a caffeine boost by midafternoon, Karen found...
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This week on the show, we welcome Denis Champagne—a trilingual sales coach, elite athlete, and creator of the Body Business Balance framework—for a powerful conversation all about the link between physical fitness and sales performance. Drawing on over 35 years of experience in international sales leadership and coaching, Denis shares how athletic discipline, strength training, and healthy lifestyle choices can transform not only your personal well-being but also your professional sales results. From the value of discipline over motivation, to practical advice on building resilience...
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Renowned negotiation strategist Dr. Keld Jensen—ranked among the top three negotiation experts globally and author of 27 books, including the upcoming "The Smart Negotiator" joins me on the show to shine a spotlight on the powerful link between physical fitness and professional sales performance. As someone who spends more than 200 days a year on the road advising governments and Fortune 500 companies, Keld brings invaluable personal insights on how exercise, nutrition, sleep, and even fasting keep him sharp, resilient, and creative—no matter the demands of travel or high-stakes...
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Brandon Cornthwaite’s story is one of discipline overcoming distraction. Growing up in South Africa, a country shaped by military rigor, Brandon’s journey took him from the world of elite cycling to a life in the military. Throughout his varied career, Brandon discovered that maintaining physical fitness wasn’t just about health—it was key to unlocking energy, focus, and professional success. Living with ADHD, Brandon dedicated himself to exercise as a way to boost cognitive performance, manage neurotransmitter balance, and avoid the need for medication. His commitment to staying...
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Kristie Jones — sales consultant, B2B SaaS expert, and author of "Selling Your Way In”- discovered that her best workouts aren’t defined by the time of day, but by consistency. After long, sometimes challenging days at the sales office, Kristie prefers to “defrag” with evening exercise sessions, finding them the perfect way to unwind and recharge. Rather than chasing morning routines, she focuses on fitting in activity at least five days a week, motivated by the endorphin boost each session brings. For Kristie, the most important part of fitness is enjoying the process and staying...
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There’s a powerful connection between physical fitness and professional sales success. Bob Woods, a leading LinkedIn and social selling strategist, best-selling author, and Chief Product Officer at Social Sales Link, shares how fitness energizes and builds resilience—key ingredients that help sales professionals shine in their roles. From his personal journey of losing 120 pounds to the daily habits that keep him sharp, Bob offers practical strategies and real-world examples of how movement, sleep, and consistency fuel both business achievements and personal health. Whether it’s treating...
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Laura Hayton, Head of Business Development North at Transicon and a passionate advocate for the power of physical fitness in boosting sales performance, is with us on the show this week. Laura opens up about her personal journey, revealing how strength training helped her overcome anxiety, build resilience, and unlock a new level of professional success—all while balancing the demands of her career and being a single mother to neurodivergent twins. We explore the direct connections between physical well-being and high performance in sales, and discuss the practical steps sales professionals...
info_outlineSean Sidney is known for his original negotiation concepts like "logic levers," the "persuasion sandwich," and "Bluff-4," and has trained more than 8,000 professionals to secure better deals and deliver real business value.
I’m talking to Sean this week all about how procurement pros gain leverage in even the most high-stakes deals. Sean generously shares his favorite tactics, including how to use threats respectfully, the power of emotional acceptance, and the strategic application of logic levers.
Whether you’re in sales or procurement, Sean’s actionable, relatable insights will help you navigate challenging negotiations, avoid common pitfalls, and forge better business relationships.
Plus, you’ll hear real-world stories from Sean’s own career, practical tips to recognize and counter aggressive negotiation moves, and the essential dos and don’ts that every negotiator should live by.
Outline of This Episode
- [05:52] Emphasize emotion in persuasion: connect emotionally, be respectful, wrap emotional appeal around threats, and use logic to justify decisions.
- [07:11] Strategize to unsettle competitors and align sales for the best deal.
- [12:25] Focus on win-win negotiations by trading asymmetric variables to maximize value.
- [14:15] Collaborative negotiation involves sitting side by side to achieve mutual success.
- [18:54] Appreciate negotiating tips; emphasize quid pro quo strategy.
- [23:14] Understanding stakeholders' drivers and using backdoor selling effectively can influence decisions.
Mastering Negotiation in Sales and Procurement
At the foundation of effective negotiation lies a clear understanding of the difference between strategy and tactics. Sean Sidney succinctly explains:
- Strategy is the overarching plan designed to achieve a specific objective.
- Tactics are the specific actions or maneuvers employed to implement that strategy.
For instance, a buyer’s objective might be to reduce costs. The strategy could range from developing new suppliers to collaborating for value creation. Tactics are then the moves—such as employing “logic levers” or persuasive messaging—that bring the chosen strategy to life.
The Power of Gaining Leverage
Sean’s go-to negotiation strategy, especially in high-stakes procurement deals, is to gain leverage. Leverage puts pressure on the other party to make concessions without having to give away value early. While it can seem aggressive, Sean emphasizes that this approach can be effective in both win-win and win-lose scenarios, provided you use the right tactics and maintain respect for the relationship.
However, leverage isn’t about domination. Leverage, when used with progressive and collaborative tactics, creates the opportunity for both parties to get their share of the “pie”—even when that pie grows through collaboration.
The Persuasion Sandwich
So, how do you gain and apply leverage without damaging long-term relationships? Sean introduces three core negotiation tactics, ultimately wrapped into what he calls the Persuasion Sandwich:
- Action Consequences (The “Threat”): This is where you clearly articulate the consequences of non-action, e.g., “We can’t supply you unless the price increases.” While the term “threat” might sound harsh, it’s simply drawing clear boundaries.
- Emotional Acceptance: To prevent escalation or defensiveness, frame tough messages with empathy and respect. “I’d love to work with you, but due to our costs, we can’t lower our price further.” It’s about being hard on the issue, soft on the person.
- Logic Levers: Make your position believable and credible. Use logic by highlighting your worth as a partner, creating a sense of competition with others, or subtly shifting value focuses to place the other party off balance. These levers (us, others, them) make your persuasive message more convincing.
By blending these elements, the persuasion sandwich becomes a sophisticated yet non-confrontational way to negotiate assertively without alienating your counterpart.
Harnessing Preparation and Recognizing Tactics
One of Sean’s golden rules is that preparation is everything. He advocates spending 80% of your effort preparing—analyzing your own and your counterpart’s position, planning your moves, and developing tradeable concessions. Even the most skilled negotiators wish they had prepared more.
Understanding and countering aggressive tactics—like strong anchoring, “take it or leave it” offers, or last-minute demands comes down to anticipation and response. Recognize the move, re-anchor with confidence and logic, or be ready with a tradeable variable to maintain balance.
Sean distinguishes between two classic strategies:
- Win-Lose (transactional, competitive, price-focused)
- Win-Win (collaborative, value-focused, deals with asymmetric variables that provide differing value to each side)
While not every negotiation will veer toward true collaboration, building trust, focusing on shared objectives, and sometimes even shifting your “seating” position from face-to-face (competitive) to side-by-side (collaborative problem-solving) can move negotiations along the spectrum toward a win-win outcome.
Putting It All Together
Sean also shares a memorable story from his first week in a procurement role. By aligning internally with stakeholders and skillfully bluffing the supplier (using the persuasion sandwich), he secured a €200,000 saving, timely delivery, and stakeholder buy-in for future projects.
Sean's advice is to prepare meticulously, wield tactics thoughtfully, always trade and never move for free, and build genuine rapport. Whether you’re in sales or procurement, mastering both strategy and tactics, and knowing when to use each, will set you apart as a true negotiation hero. Remember, the best negotiators seek to win, but they also strive to grow the pie for everyone at the table.
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