421 The Benefits of Tagged Polymers in Water Treatment with Gary Garcia
Release Date: 05/23/2025
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“Keep it simple because the more complex things get, the less people will do it” - Gary Garcia
For years, water treatment professionals have relied on PTSA tracers to estimate system performance, but emerging technologies are offering clearer, more direct answers. In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore welcome once again returning guest Garret "Gary" S. Garcia of Masters Company, now a business unit of MFG Chemical to explore how fluorescent tagged polymers are revolutionizing the way water treaters monitor system health and chemical performance. With decades of expertise, Gary offers practical insights into this game-changing technology.
Why Tagged Polymers Matter
Trace and Gary discuss the limitations of relying solely on PTSA tracers, a method that only indicates product presence rather than active ingredient performance. Gary explains how fluorescent tagged polymers, by chemically bonding the fluorophore to the polymer backbone, provide a direct and reliable measure of active polymer concentration, helping water treaters make more informed service decisions.
Instrumentation and Integration Challenges
Listeners will gain a practical understanding of how to implement tagged polymer technology. Gary outlines how existing probes and meters compare, what calibration and integration may look like, and whether both PTSA and tagged polymers can be used together. He also explains why tagged polymers are especially useful in systems impacted by iron, cationic biocides, or inconsistent load demands.
Real-World Applications and Benefits
Tagged polymers make it possible to move beyond "set-it-and-forget-it" dosing practices. Gary discusses how accurate polymer monitoring can reduce overfeeding, optimize chemical performance, and improve system health. For both QC in manufacturing and daily service checks, these tools offer better visibility into what’s really happening inside the system.
The Simplicity of Switching
Gary highlights the ease of adopting tagged polymers – often a direct drop-in with no reformulation needed. For water treaters, that means minimal disruption and an immediate opportunity to upgrade their programs.
Conclusion
Fluorescent tagged polymers are not just another tool in the toolbox; they represent a critical step forward in water treatment precision and reliability. As Gary notes, understanding and adopting these technologies allows professionals to elevate their programs, save resources, and better serve their customers.
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Timestamps
01:55 – Trace reflects on last week’s episode of Ben Frieders’ talking about fire safety advice.
08:03 – Water You Know with James McDonald
09:33 – Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals
13:01 – Interview with returning guest Gary Garcia of Master’s Company
15:39 – Volunteering and Career growth through AWT
18:22 – Differences between PTSA and fluorescent tagged polymers
28:43 – Misconceptions about single-parameter testing with PTSA
34:01 – How to learn more and connect with experts like Gary Garcia
Quotes
“For every ounce of effort you put in, you get 10, 20 ounces back in return.” Garcia
“We're the good guys. We're helping people save water, energy, helping the environment.”
“When you’re measuring for the fluorescent tagged polymer, you’re actually measuring for the active ingredient.”
“You gain more information; you gain more expertise. No one person has it all.”
Connect with Garret S. Garcia
Phone: 16302389292
Email: [email protected]
Website: www.masterscoinc.com
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Guest Resources Mentioned
314 2023 Water Industry Updates
206 The One That’s All About Customer Solutions In A Drum
Scaling UP! H2O Resources Mentioned
AWT (Association of Water Technologies)
Scaling UP! H2O Academy video courses
Water You Know with James McDonald
Question: What field test is used to measure how likely a water source is to foul reverse osmosis membranes due to suspended solids?
2025 Events for Water Professionals
Check out our Scaling UP! H2O Events Calendar where we’ve listed every event Water Treaters should be aware of by clicking HERE.
