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421 The Benefits of Tagged Polymers in Water Treatment with Gary Garcia

Release Date: 05/23/2025

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436 Raising the Bar: Legionella Management & Industry Standards

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433 Legionella Investigations and LIDO Technology

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432 Water Management Plans: Evolving Standards and Best Practices with Matt Freije

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431 Legionella Awareness Month Kickoff!

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430 PFAS Regulations and Technologies with Brian Liotta

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429 The Life and Career of Jim Lukanich

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“Keep it simple because the more complex things get, the less people will do it” - Gary Garcia

For years, water treatment professionals have relied on PTSA tracers to estimate system performance, but emerging technologies are offering clearer, more direct answers. In this episode of Scaling UP! H2O, host Trace Blackmore welcome once again returning guest Garret "Gary" S. Garcia of Masters Company, now a business unit of MFG Chemical to explore how fluorescent tagged polymers are revolutionizing the way water treaters monitor system health and chemical performance. With decades of expertise, Gary offers practical insights into this game-changing technology.

Why Tagged Polymers Matter

Trace and Gary discuss the limitations of relying solely on PTSA tracers, a method that only indicates product presence rather than active ingredient performance. Gary explains how fluorescent tagged polymers, by chemically bonding the fluorophore to the polymer backbone, provide a direct and reliable measure of active polymer concentration, helping water treaters make more informed service decisions.

Instrumentation and Integration Challenges

Listeners will gain a practical understanding of how to implement tagged polymer technology. Gary outlines how existing probes and meters compare, what calibration and integration may look like, and whether both PTSA and tagged polymers can be used together. He also explains why tagged polymers are especially useful in systems impacted by iron, cationic biocides, or inconsistent load demands.

Real-World Applications and Benefits

Tagged polymers make it possible to move beyond "set-it-and-forget-it" dosing practices. Gary discusses how accurate polymer monitoring can reduce overfeeding, optimize chemical performance, and improve system health. For both QC in manufacturing and daily service checks, these tools offer better visibility into what’s really happening inside the system.

The Simplicity of Switching

Gary highlights the ease of adopting tagged polymers – often a direct drop-in with no reformulation needed. For water treaters, that means minimal disruption and an immediate opportunity to upgrade their programs.

Conclusion

Fluorescent tagged polymers are not just another tool in the toolbox; they represent a critical step forward in water treatment precision and reliability. As Gary notes, understanding and adopting these technologies allows professionals to elevate their programs, save resources, and better serve their customers.

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Timestamps

01:55 – Trace reflects on last week’s episode of Ben Frieders’ talking about fire safety advice.

08:03 – Water You Know with James McDonald

09:33 – Upcoming Events for Water Treatment Professionals

13:01 – Interview with returning guest Gary Garcia of Master’s Company

15:39 – Volunteering and Career growth through AWT

18:22 – Differences between PTSA and fluorescent tagged polymers

28:43 – Misconceptions about single-parameter testing with PTSA

34:01 – How to learn more and connect with experts like Gary Garcia

Quotes

“For every ounce of effort you put in, you get 10, 20 ounces back in return.” Garcia