Episode 20 | Deconstructing Phrases and Idioms
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, privilege, and the language we use to discuss these topics. They delve into the implications of comfort and consent in conversations about race, the military's perspective on colorblindness, and the concept of privilege through the lens of games like Monopoly. The discussion also touches on neurodiversity, particularly hyperlexia, and the importance of community in social change. They emphasize the need for liberation through language, the role of women in activism, and the dynamics of secrecy and control in cult-like...
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Episode 19 | Wicked takes on Wicked
Hey White Women
In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of race, identity, and representation through the lens of the musical Wicked. They discuss the implications of casting choices, the critique of whiteness, and the importance of diverse narratives in art and media. The conversation emphasizes the need for allyship and understanding different perspectives, particularly in the context of black womanhood and the complexities of marginalization. Ultimately, they advocate for the power of art to challenge norms and foster connection across different identities. Connect with Rebecca at: ...
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Episode 18 | Black Privilege?
Hey White Women
In this conversation, the speakers explore the complexities of privilege, race, and social justice. They discuss how children perceive privilege, the importance of redefining terms like 'white privilege', and the role of community in addressing racism. The conversation also touches on the intersection of feminism and race, the challenges of critiquing public figures, and the need for nuanced discussions about identity and accountability. Ultimately, the speakers emphasize the importance of listening, learning, and taking action in the fight for social justice. Connect with Rebecca at: ...
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Episode 17 | Weaponized Literacy
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the evolution of reading from a joyful activity to an obligation, the impact of recommended reading lists, and the cultural narratives that shape our understanding of literature. It delves into the role of education in shaping perspectives, the struggle for authenticity in reading, and the arbitrary nature of degrees and success. The speakers emphasize the importance of self-reflection, the complexities of human relationships, and the journey of deconstruction and awareness in navigating conversations around race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and...
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Episode 16 | What do we do now?
Hey White Women
In this episode of 'Hey White Women', the first recorded after the 2024 election, hosts Daniella and Rebecca engage in a deep conversation about the role of white women in dismantling white supremacy. They discuss the importance of acknowledging discomfort, the need for collective action, and the power of community in creating change. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of listening to marginalized voices, the journey of healing, and the complexities involved in challenging ingrained societal norms. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they encourage listeners to take action and...
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Episode 15 | Human Rights vs Pet Rocks
Hey White Women
This unplanned conversation delves into the complexities of anti-racism, personal growth, and the impact of societal norms on individual experiences. The speakers discuss the importance of language, the challenges of navigating discomfort, and the role of community in healing. They also explore the intersection of mental health and racism, emphasizing the need for systemic change and the journey of self-discovery. In this conversation, Haley and Rebecca delve into the complexities of identity, focusing on the intersections of race, gender, and disability. They discuss the unique experiences of...
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Episode 14 | Discomfort Isn’t Danger: Rehumanizing Conflict
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of human nature, the oversimplification of good and evil narratives, and the importance of rehumanization in social discourse. They discuss the role of white women in social justice, the impact of capitalism on group dynamics, and the necessity of discomfort for personal growth. The conversation emphasizes the power of personal narratives, critical thinking, and storytelling in fostering empathy and understanding, while also addressing the limitations of white feminism and the need for preventative measures in societal issues....
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Episode 13 | There Are No Easy Answers
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersections of entertainment, identity, and societal structures. They discuss the role of whiteness in shaping experiences, the burdens of perfectionism and productivity, and the implications of the cult of entrepreneurship. The conversation delves into the dynamics of social media, the weaponization of secrets, and the importance of community versus group dynamics. They also reflect on the impact of capitalism on human value, the complexities of international relations, and the need for transparency in systems. Ultimately, they...
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Episode 12 | Education and Total Institutions (Surprise producer appearance)
Hey White Women
In this suprise guest episode, the speakers explore the challenges of traditional education, particularly for neurodivergent individuals. They discuss the concept of total institutions and how societal norms can impact personal identity and acceptance. The dialogue shifts to the importance of navigating life beyond conventional paths, embracing change, and redefining expertise. The speakers also touch on the dangers of cult-like structures and apocalyptic thinking in society, emphasizing the need for personal narrative and the evolution of tools in human adaptation. In this conversation, the...
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Episode 11 | The Popular Girls Aren't Happy
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the complexities of ageism, objectivity, and bias, particularly in relation to race and gender. The speakers discuss the societal perceptions of age, the historical context of bias, and the reinterpretation of myths through feminist lenses. They delve into the impact of gender in combat and leadership roles, the illusion of popularity and happiness, and the flaws of objectivity in society. The discussion also touches on cognitive dissonance, indoctrination, and the intersection of whiteness and objectivity, emphasizing the dangers of extremism and the importance of...
info_outlineIn this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella discuss the concept of body coverage as a form of appearance control in cults and white supremacy. They explore the loaded language and thought-stopping cliches used to enforce modesty and control women's bodies. They also touch on the intersection of race and body coverage, highlighting the policing of black women's bodies and the privileging of white beauty standards. The conversation delves into the influence of cult language and the importance of challenging and deconstructing these harmful ideologies. The conversation explores the limitations placed on professional women in terms of appearance, the power of language, and the impact of beauty standards. It delves into the intersectionality of race and gender, the control and behavior prescriptions imposed by appearance standards, and the need for representation and diverse perspectives in positions of power. The discussion also touches on the troubled teen industry, the importance of storytelling and language, and the potential for change in the political landscape. The conversation explores the themes of identity, white supremacy, misogyny, and the pressure to conform to societal expectations. It delves into the experiences of being a woman and the challenges faced in navigating patriarchal systems. The speakers discuss the importance of self-acceptance and finding one's own mission in life. They also touch on the power dynamics within cults and the need to redefine success on one's own terms.
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Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young
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Takeaways
- Body coverage is a form of appearance control used in cults and white supremacy to enforce modesty and control women's bodies.
- Loaded language and thought-stopping cliches are used to shut down critical discussion and maintain the status quo.
- The policing of black women's bodies and the privileging of white beauty standards are examples of how body coverage intersects with race.
- Challenging and deconstructing harmful ideologies is essential for dismantling systems of oppression. Appearance standards for professional women can be limiting and reinforce patriarchal norms.
- Language is a powerful tool that can be used to attack or empower.
Beauty standards are often about controlling women and prescribing behavior. - Intersectionality is important in understanding the experiences of different groups.
- Representation and diverse perspectives are crucial in positions of power.
- The troubled teen industry and its impact on individuals' lives is a significant issue.
- Storytelling and language play a role in shaping our understanding of the world.
- Change is possible, and it requires challenging existing systems and norms. Identity is complex and can be defined by both what it is and what it is not.
- White identity is often defined by not being black, while black identity is not defined by not being white.
- Societal pressure often leads to black people being marginalized and white people feeling the need to defend their identity.
- Misogyny and sexism are not the same as hating men; they are about opposing harmful beliefs and behaviors.
- Criticism and judgment from others should not dictate one's self-worth or define their mission in life.
- The pursuit of success should be redefined on one's own terms, rather than relying on external validation or societal expectations.
Sound Bites
"Body coverage is a big thing in cults, right?"
"White privilege is such a loaded term"
"White privilege is a thought-stopping cliche"
"So often the first response is just to attack because language is so primal and fundamental to us as humans."
"People have no clue what I'm doing. And you could tell, because they're just so upset that I would name myself White Woman Whisperer, that I would even address white women and not be one because then they're so confused."
"People say Swifties are a cult. I'm like, what are they against?"
"Whiteness has always been, we can't live with you and we can't live without you."
"What I hate is misogyny and sexism, and I love men that aren't that."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Yarn Discussion
01:18 Deconstructing White Supremacy and Cults
05:15 The Power of Language and Loaded Terms
10:34 Thought-Stopping Cliches and White Privilege
14:16 Questioning and Challenging Language
16:16 Creating Spaces for Marginalized Voices
17:59 The Art of Knitting: Patience and Practice
18:25 Body Coverage in Cults: Appearance Control and Conformity
25:46 Policing Black Women's Sexuality: Stereotypes and Double Standards
31:58 The Evolution of Beauty Standards: Tools for Control
36:04 Self-Acceptance and Challenging Societal Norms
39:57 The Intersectionality of Identity and Appearance Control
41:45 Challenging Stereotypes and Expectations in the Military
46:20 The Power Dynamics of White Supremacy and Patriarchy
48:58 The Importance of Diverse Perspectives in Positions of Power
52:13 Valuing Lived Experiences alongside Formal Qualifications
57:58 Rethinking Traditional Games and Systems
01:07:11 Reevaluating Goals and Finding New Missions
01:07:57 The Importance of Self-Care and Self-Acceptance
01:11:30 Defining Success on Your Own Terms