Episode 28 | Appropriation or Appropriate
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the intersections of capitalism, cultural identity, and the dynamics of power in relationships. The speakers discuss the gig economy as a potential alternative to traditional capitalism, the complexities of cultural appropriation, and the challenges of navigating identity as white individuals in diverse cultural spaces. They delve into the illusions of saving and the societal constructs surrounding consent and autonomy, while also addressing the role of women in patriarchal systems. The discussion highlights the importance of language, the romanticization of history,...
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Episode 27 | The "Making" Money Myth
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersection of music, cult experiences, and cultural identity. They discuss how growing up in a cult influenced their music preferences, particularly the emotional suppression associated with it. The conversation delves into the complexities of cultural appropriation in the music industry, the impact of fame, and the challenges of navigating cultural identities. They reflect on their personal journeys of understanding music and the importance of community and cultural exchange in shaping their experiences. In this conversation, Rebecca...
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Episode 26 | You Don't Have to "Get" Kendrick Lamar
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the cultural significance of Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl performance, delving into themes of resistance, identity, and the complexities of race and gender in America. The speakers discuss the symbolism in music and dance as forms of cultural expression and resistance, the role of white women in social change, and the importance of resilience in the face of societal challenges. They also reflect on the dynamics of privilege and the need for a deeper understanding of identity and humanity in the context of systemic oppression. In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella...
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Episode 25 | Quit Playing Monopoly
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore themes of empowerment, self-expression, and the societal narratives that shape our identities. They discuss the impact of fashion on self-perception, the dangers of conspiracy theories, and the importance of community and networking. The conversation also delves into the dynamics of motherhood, parenting, and the influence of cult-like structures on family life. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for individuals, particularly white women, to take action against oppression and challenge the narratives that confine them. In this engaging...
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Episode 24 | Grindset is Gross
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of living in a society influenced by Donald Trump, the rise of online cultures, and the misogyny that permeates social interactions. They discuss the role of white women in society, the importance of community and self-care, and the impact of societal expectations on individual identity. The conversation delves into the dangers of conformity, the need for transparency in work, and the importance of listening to marginalized voices. They emphasize the power of collective action and the necessity of understanding history to...
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Episode 23 | Hillmantok University
Hey White Women
This conversation delves into the complexities of therapy, race, and community dynamics, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals navigating these spaces. The speakers discuss the challenges of finding appropriate therapeutic support, the importance of community in healing, and the role of white women in social movements. They also explore military dynamics, the impact of social media on awareness, and the necessity of acknowledging trauma while navigating conversations about race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, gender,...
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Episode 22 | Treat Yourself
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the themes of adulthood, personal choices, loyalty, community, and the complexities of societal structures. The speakers discuss the importance of treating oneself, the challenges of loyalty in organizations, the individuality within the military, and the role of nonprofits in addressing societal issues. They also delve into the impact of capitalism on community, the pursuit of growth in business, and the power dynamics involving women. The conversation emphasizes the need for community engagement and the dangers of oversimplifying complex issues. In this...
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Episode 21 | Cult Baby Musical Concept
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the intersection of creativity, personal identity, and societal structures. They discuss the emotional connections formed through creative projects, the development of Daniella's musical 'Uncultured', and the themes of gender and power dynamics within it. The conversation also delves into the importance of representation in casting, the influence of cultural music, and the complexities of societal hierarchies. They reflect on personal journeys of identity and community, the value placed on certain roles in society, and the challenges of...
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Episode 20 | Deconstructing Phrases and Idioms
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, privilege, and the language we use to discuss these topics. They delve into the implications of comfort and consent in conversations about race, the military's perspective on colorblindness, and the concept of privilege through the lens of games like Monopoly. The discussion also touches on neurodiversity, particularly hyperlexia, and the importance of community in social change. They emphasize the need for liberation through language, the role of women in activism, and the dynamics of secrecy and control in cult-like...
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Episode 19 | Wicked takes on Wicked
Hey White Women
In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of race, identity, and representation through the lens of the musical Wicked. They discuss the implications of casting choices, the critique of whiteness, and the importance of diverse narratives in art and media. The conversation emphasizes the need for allyship and understanding different perspectives, particularly in the context of black womanhood and the complexities of marginalization. Ultimately, they advocate for the power of art to challenge norms and foster connection across different identities. Connect with Rebecca at: ...
info_outlineIn this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca discuss the concept of deconstruction and how it relates to body size and white supremacy. They share personal stories and insights about the control and manipulation of appearance in cults and society. They explore the impact of body size on self-worth and the harmful effects of societal beauty standards. The conversation highlights the need for self-reflection and the ongoing work required to challenge and dismantle these harmful ideologies. The conversation explores various aspects of control and coercion, particularly in relation to body size, bathroom control, and workplace dynamics. It delves into the ways in which control is exerted in different contexts, such as cults, corporate America, and educational environments. The discussion also touches on the weaponization of compliments and the societal pressure to conform to certain body standards. The importance of reclaiming agency and challenging societal norms is emphasized throughout the conversation.
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Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young
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UnAMERICAN Videobook
Takeaways
Deconstruction involves tearing things apart to create new solutions and solve problems.
Body size is often used as a tool for control and manipulation in cults and society.
Societal beauty standards perpetuate harmful ideologies and negatively impact self-worth.
Challenging and dismantling white supremacy requires ongoing self-reflection and work.
Emotional labor and the control of appearance are interconnected aspects of oppressive systems. Control and coercion can manifest in various aspects of life, including body size, bathroom control, and workplace dynamics.
Societal norms and expectations around body size and appearance can be oppressive and contribute to fatphobia and body shaming.
Compliments can be used as a form of control and can perpetuate harmful beauty standards.
Reclaiming agency and challenging societal norms is essential for personal empowerment and dismantling oppressive systems.
Recognizing and questioning systems of control and coercion is crucial for creating a more equitable and inclusive society.
Sound Bites
"When you tear things apart, when you spend the time deconstructing things, you come up with ways to create new things and to solve problems."
"It's not like you have good intention and all of a sudden, boom, we are not racist anymore."
"The idea of fat became inherently a negative word... unless you believe we're all supposed to look and be the same."
"Bathroom control is another thing that we always see in coercive control."
"This woman's a cult leader."
"Kids are the new slaves that we just treat."
Chapters
00:00 Deconstructing and Creating
05:40 The Control of Appearance
13:38 Bathroom Control and Emotional Labor
20:04 The Dehumanization of Children
43:38 The Value of Physical Presence in the Workplace
46:05 The Pressure to Conform to Body Size Ideals
52:28 The Role of Compliments and Jokes in Body Control
54:32 Valuing People Beyond Their Physical Appearance