Episode 20 | Deconstructing Phrases and Idioms
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, privilege, and the language we use to discuss these topics. They delve into the implications of comfort and consent in conversations about race, the military's perspective on colorblindness, and the concept of privilege through the lens of games like Monopoly. The discussion also touches on neurodiversity, particularly hyperlexia, and the importance of community in social change. They emphasize the need for liberation through language, the role of women in activism, and the dynamics of secrecy and control in cult-like...
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Episode 19 | Wicked takes on Wicked
Hey White Women
In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of race, identity, and representation through the lens of the musical Wicked. They discuss the implications of casting choices, the critique of whiteness, and the importance of diverse narratives in art and media. The conversation emphasizes the need for allyship and understanding different perspectives, particularly in the context of black womanhood and the complexities of marginalization. Ultimately, they advocate for the power of art to challenge norms and foster connection across different identities. Connect with Rebecca at: ...
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Episode 18 | Black Privilege?
Hey White Women
In this conversation, the speakers explore the complexities of privilege, race, and social justice. They discuss how children perceive privilege, the importance of redefining terms like 'white privilege', and the role of community in addressing racism. The conversation also touches on the intersection of feminism and race, the challenges of critiquing public figures, and the need for nuanced discussions about identity and accountability. Ultimately, the speakers emphasize the importance of listening, learning, and taking action in the fight for social justice. Connect with Rebecca at: ...
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Episode 17 | Weaponized Literacy
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the evolution of reading from a joyful activity to an obligation, the impact of recommended reading lists, and the cultural narratives that shape our understanding of literature. It delves into the role of education in shaping perspectives, the struggle for authenticity in reading, and the arbitrary nature of degrees and success. The speakers emphasize the importance of self-reflection, the complexities of human relationships, and the journey of deconstruction and awareness in navigating conversations around race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and...
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Episode 16 | What do we do now?
Hey White Women
In this episode of 'Hey White Women', the first recorded after the 2024 election, hosts Daniella and Rebecca engage in a deep conversation about the role of white women in dismantling white supremacy. They discuss the importance of acknowledging discomfort, the need for collective action, and the power of community in creating change. The conversation emphasizes the necessity of listening to marginalized voices, the journey of healing, and the complexities involved in challenging ingrained societal norms. Through personal anecdotes and reflections, they encourage listeners to take action and...
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Episode 15 | Human Rights vs Pet Rocks
Hey White Women
This unplanned conversation delves into the complexities of anti-racism, personal growth, and the impact of societal norms on individual experiences. The speakers discuss the importance of language, the challenges of navigating discomfort, and the role of community in healing. They also explore the intersection of mental health and racism, emphasizing the need for systemic change and the journey of self-discovery. In this conversation, Haley and Rebecca delve into the complexities of identity, focusing on the intersections of race, gender, and disability. They discuss the unique experiences of...
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Episode 14 | Discomfort Isn’t Danger: Rehumanizing Conflict
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of human nature, the oversimplification of good and evil narratives, and the importance of rehumanization in social discourse. They discuss the role of white women in social justice, the impact of capitalism on group dynamics, and the necessity of discomfort for personal growth. The conversation emphasizes the power of personal narratives, critical thinking, and storytelling in fostering empathy and understanding, while also addressing the limitations of white feminism and the need for preventative measures in societal issues....
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Episode 13 | There Are No Easy Answers
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersections of entertainment, identity, and societal structures. They discuss the role of whiteness in shaping experiences, the burdens of perfectionism and productivity, and the implications of the cult of entrepreneurship. The conversation delves into the dynamics of social media, the weaponization of secrets, and the importance of community versus group dynamics. They also reflect on the impact of capitalism on human value, the complexities of international relations, and the need for transparency in systems. Ultimately, they...
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Episode 12 | Education and Total Institutions (Surprise producer appearance)
Hey White Women
In this suprise guest episode, the speakers explore the challenges of traditional education, particularly for neurodivergent individuals. They discuss the concept of total institutions and how societal norms can impact personal identity and acceptance. The dialogue shifts to the importance of navigating life beyond conventional paths, embracing change, and redefining expertise. The speakers also touch on the dangers of cult-like structures and apocalyptic thinking in society, emphasizing the need for personal narrative and the evolution of tools in human adaptation. In this conversation, the...
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Episode 11 | The Popular Girls Aren't Happy
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the complexities of ageism, objectivity, and bias, particularly in relation to race and gender. The speakers discuss the societal perceptions of age, the historical context of bias, and the reinterpretation of myths through feminist lenses. They delve into the impact of gender in combat and leadership roles, the illusion of popularity and happiness, and the flaws of objectivity in society. The discussion also touches on cognitive dissonance, indoctrination, and the intersection of whiteness and objectivity, emphasizing the dangers of extremism and the importance of...
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The conversation explores the topic of underwear and its role in control and oppression. It delves into the societal expectations and policing of women's bodies, the arbitrary nature of professionalism, and the intersection of underwear with race and gender. The discussion also touches on the history of underwear, the influence of capitalism and consumerism, and the connection between underwear and abuse in cults. Overall, the conversation highlights the ways in which underwear is used as a tool for control and the need to challenge societal norms and expectations. The conversation explores various topics related to identity, race, and gender. It touches on issues such as colorism, body image, breastfeeding in public, and the challenges faced by women in the military. The speakers discuss the infantilization and sexualization of women, the pressure to conform to societal expectations, and the importance of understanding and acknowledging one's own privilege. They also highlight the need for white women to listen and learn from marginalized communities, rather than trying to prove their goodness or uniqueness. In this final part of the conversation, Rebecca and Daniella discuss the insidious nature of white supremacy and the need for white people to trust Black people's awareness of racism. They also explore the importance of questioning societal norms and expectations, such as appearance control and underwear requirements. They emphasize the need for white people to deconstruct white supremacy and opt out of the game, leading to true freedom, joy, and friendship.
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Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young
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UnAMERICAN Videobook
Takeaways
- Underwear is often used as a tool for control and oppression, with societal expectations and policing of women's bodies.
- The concept of professionalism is arbitrary and can be used to marginalize and exclude certain individuals.
- The history of underwear reveals the influence of capitalism and consumerism, as well as the infantilization of sexuality in society.
Underwear can be connected to abuse in cults, where it is used as a means of control and surveillance. - Challenging societal norms and expectations around underwear is important for promoting body autonomy and dismantling oppressive systems. Colorism and body image issues are prevalent in society, leading to the infantilization and sexualization of women.
- Breastfeeding in public is still stigmatized, despite laws protecting a woman's right to do so.
- Women in the military face challenges related to uniform fit, gender expectations, and stereotypes.
- White women should listen and learn from marginalized communities, rather than trying to prove their goodness or uniqueness. White people need to trust Black people's awareness of racism and understand that they know more about racism than white people do.
- Questioning societal norms and expectations, such as appearance control and underwear requirements, is essential in deconstructing white supremacy.
- White people should opt out of the game of white supremacy and embrace true freedom, joy, and community.
- Deconstructing white supremacy takes time and ongoing work, and it is a continuous process of learning and unlearning.
- The goal is not to be obsessed as white people, but to challenge and dismantle white supremacy for a more equitable society.
Sound Bites
"The history of colonization is just white men going around the world and telling brown and black women to cover up their boobs."
"Professionalism is not a real thing, right? Like right now, I'm here with a straight, like remains of a blowout, Rebecca has natural hair. Your hair is not more professional than my hair."
"I know Victoria's Secret is like a dude made her up. But like how much have we all suffered because of that?"
"That's another part that makes it more racist and more infantilized."
"The death of these cults is the knowledge of them."
"Every state in America, you are allowed to breastfeed your child in public."
"You have to also trust black people's awareness of you more than your understanding of where you are and how they're perceived."
"The way that you go make black friends is doing the work to come out of the cult of white supremacy."
"We have been told for our entire culture that black men are the most likely to hurt us."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction: Moving Away from Bras and Pantyhose
06:39 The Control and Policing of Women's Bodies Through Underwear
10:29 The Discomfort and Privilege of Wearing Bras
13:33 Appearance Control and White Supremacy
17:38 The Arbitrary Nature of Professionalism
21:31 Underwear as a Tool of Control: Historical and Cultural Perspectives
25:31 Consumerism and Societal Expectations
30:40 Colorism, Body Image, and the Infantilization of Women
32:37 The Stigma of Breastfeeding in Public
36:41 The Need to Be Seen and Heard
39:39 The Dangers of Trying to Be the 'Special' White Person
44:28 Empathy, Inclusivity, and Recognizing Individual Experiences
01:00:30 Introduction and Latin Credentials
01:04:48 Conduct Standards and Appearance Control
01:06:49 Resistance and Opposition to the System
01:10:10 Identity vs. Anti-Identity
01:12:31 Underwear Control and Prescribing Behavior
01:16:44 The Game of Whiteness and Opting Out
01:19:49 Femininity and Masculinity
01:22:37 The Decade of Deconstruction
01:26:05 Questioning and Challenging Societal Norms
01:28:47 The Freedom of Breaking Free
Produced By: Haley Phillips