Episode 28 | Appropriation or Appropriate
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the intersections of capitalism, cultural identity, and the dynamics of power in relationships. The speakers discuss the gig economy as a potential alternative to traditional capitalism, the complexities of cultural appropriation, and the challenges of navigating identity as white individuals in diverse cultural spaces. They delve into the illusions of saving and the societal constructs surrounding consent and autonomy, while also addressing the role of women in patriarchal systems. The discussion highlights the importance of language, the romanticization of history,...
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Episode 27 | The "Making" Money Myth
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the intersection of music, cult experiences, and cultural identity. They discuss how growing up in a cult influenced their music preferences, particularly the emotional suppression associated with it. The conversation delves into the complexities of cultural appropriation in the music industry, the impact of fame, and the challenges of navigating cultural identities. They reflect on their personal journeys of understanding music and the importance of community and cultural exchange in shaping their experiences. In this conversation, Rebecca...
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Episode 26 | You Don't Have to "Get" Kendrick Lamar
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the cultural significance of Kendrick Lamar's Super Bowl performance, delving into themes of resistance, identity, and the complexities of race and gender in America. The speakers discuss the symbolism in music and dance as forms of cultural expression and resistance, the role of white women in social change, and the importance of resilience in the face of societal challenges. They also reflect on the dynamics of privilege and the need for a deeper understanding of identity and humanity in the context of systemic oppression. In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella...
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Episode 25 | Quit Playing Monopoly
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore themes of empowerment, self-expression, and the societal narratives that shape our identities. They discuss the impact of fashion on self-perception, the dangers of conspiracy theories, and the importance of community and networking. The conversation also delves into the dynamics of motherhood, parenting, and the influence of cult-like structures on family life. Ultimately, they emphasize the need for individuals, particularly white women, to take action against oppression and challenge the narratives that confine them. In this engaging...
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Episode 24 | Grindset is Gross
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of living in a society influenced by Donald Trump, the rise of online cultures, and the misogyny that permeates social interactions. They discuss the role of white women in society, the importance of community and self-care, and the impact of societal expectations on individual identity. The conversation delves into the dangers of conformity, the need for transparency in work, and the importance of listening to marginalized voices. They emphasize the power of collective action and the necessity of understanding history to...
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Episode 23 | Hillmantok University
Hey White Women
This conversation delves into the complexities of therapy, race, and community dynamics, particularly focusing on the experiences of individuals navigating these spaces. The speakers discuss the challenges of finding appropriate therapeutic support, the importance of community in healing, and the role of white women in social movements. They also explore military dynamics, the impact of social media on awareness, and the necessity of acknowledging trauma while navigating conversations about race and identity. In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, gender,...
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Episode 22 | Treat Yourself
Hey White Women
This conversation explores the themes of adulthood, personal choices, loyalty, community, and the complexities of societal structures. The speakers discuss the importance of treating oneself, the challenges of loyalty in organizations, the individuality within the military, and the role of nonprofits in addressing societal issues. They also delve into the impact of capitalism on community, the pursuit of growth in business, and the power dynamics involving women. The conversation emphasizes the need for community engagement and the dangers of oversimplifying complex issues. In this...
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Episode 21 | Cult Baby Musical Concept
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Rebecca and Daniella explore the intersection of creativity, personal identity, and societal structures. They discuss the emotional connections formed through creative projects, the development of Daniella's musical 'Uncultured', and the themes of gender and power dynamics within it. The conversation also delves into the importance of representation in casting, the influence of cultural music, and the complexities of societal hierarchies. They reflect on personal journeys of identity and community, the value placed on certain roles in society, and the challenges of...
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Episode 20 | Deconstructing Phrases and Idioms
Hey White Women
In this conversation, Daniella and Rebecca explore the complexities of race, privilege, and the language we use to discuss these topics. They delve into the implications of comfort and consent in conversations about race, the military's perspective on colorblindness, and the concept of privilege through the lens of games like Monopoly. The discussion also touches on neurodiversity, particularly hyperlexia, and the importance of community in social change. They emphasize the need for liberation through language, the role of women in activism, and the dynamics of secrecy and control in cult-like...
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Episode 19 | Wicked takes on Wicked
Hey White Women
In this conversation, the speakers explore the themes of race, identity, and representation through the lens of the musical Wicked. They discuss the implications of casting choices, the critique of whiteness, and the importance of diverse narratives in art and media. The conversation emphasizes the need for allyship and understanding different perspectives, particularly in the context of black womanhood and the complexities of marginalization. Ultimately, they advocate for the power of art to challenge norms and foster connection across different identities. Connect with Rebecca at: ...
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The conversation explores the topic of underwear and its role in control and oppression. It delves into the societal expectations and policing of women's bodies, the arbitrary nature of professionalism, and the intersection of underwear with race and gender. The discussion also touches on the history of underwear, the influence of capitalism and consumerism, and the connection between underwear and abuse in cults. Overall, the conversation highlights the ways in which underwear is used as a tool for control and the need to challenge societal norms and expectations. The conversation explores various topics related to identity, race, and gender. It touches on issues such as colorism, body image, breastfeeding in public, and the challenges faced by women in the military. The speakers discuss the infantilization and sexualization of women, the pressure to conform to societal expectations, and the importance of understanding and acknowledging one's own privilege. They also highlight the need for white women to listen and learn from marginalized communities, rather than trying to prove their goodness or uniqueness. In this final part of the conversation, Rebecca and Daniella discuss the insidious nature of white supremacy and the need for white people to trust Black people's awareness of racism. They also explore the importance of questioning societal norms and expectations, such as appearance control and underwear requirements. They emphasize the need for white people to deconstruct white supremacy and opt out of the game, leading to true freedom, joy, and friendship.
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Uncultured by Daniella Mestyanek Young
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UnAMERICAN Videobook
Takeaways
- Underwear is often used as a tool for control and oppression, with societal expectations and policing of women's bodies.
- The concept of professionalism is arbitrary and can be used to marginalize and exclude certain individuals.
- The history of underwear reveals the influence of capitalism and consumerism, as well as the infantilization of sexuality in society.
Underwear can be connected to abuse in cults, where it is used as a means of control and surveillance. - Challenging societal norms and expectations around underwear is important for promoting body autonomy and dismantling oppressive systems. Colorism and body image issues are prevalent in society, leading to the infantilization and sexualization of women.
- Breastfeeding in public is still stigmatized, despite laws protecting a woman's right to do so.
- Women in the military face challenges related to uniform fit, gender expectations, and stereotypes.
- White women should listen and learn from marginalized communities, rather than trying to prove their goodness or uniqueness. White people need to trust Black people's awareness of racism and understand that they know more about racism than white people do.
- Questioning societal norms and expectations, such as appearance control and underwear requirements, is essential in deconstructing white supremacy.
- White people should opt out of the game of white supremacy and embrace true freedom, joy, and community.
- Deconstructing white supremacy takes time and ongoing work, and it is a continuous process of learning and unlearning.
- The goal is not to be obsessed as white people, but to challenge and dismantle white supremacy for a more equitable society.
Sound Bites
"The history of colonization is just white men going around the world and telling brown and black women to cover up their boobs."
"Professionalism is not a real thing, right? Like right now, I'm here with a straight, like remains of a blowout, Rebecca has natural hair. Your hair is not more professional than my hair."
"I know Victoria's Secret is like a dude made her up. But like how much have we all suffered because of that?"
"That's another part that makes it more racist and more infantilized."
"The death of these cults is the knowledge of them."
"Every state in America, you are allowed to breastfeed your child in public."
"You have to also trust black people's awareness of you more than your understanding of where you are and how they're perceived."
"The way that you go make black friends is doing the work to come out of the cult of white supremacy."
"We have been told for our entire culture that black men are the most likely to hurt us."
Chapters
00:00 Introduction: Moving Away from Bras and Pantyhose
06:39 The Control and Policing of Women's Bodies Through Underwear
10:29 The Discomfort and Privilege of Wearing Bras
13:33 Appearance Control and White Supremacy
17:38 The Arbitrary Nature of Professionalism
21:31 Underwear as a Tool of Control: Historical and Cultural Perspectives
25:31 Consumerism and Societal Expectations
30:40 Colorism, Body Image, and the Infantilization of Women
32:37 The Stigma of Breastfeeding in Public
36:41 The Need to Be Seen and Heard
39:39 The Dangers of Trying to Be the 'Special' White Person
44:28 Empathy, Inclusivity, and Recognizing Individual Experiences
01:00:30 Introduction and Latin Credentials
01:04:48 Conduct Standards and Appearance Control
01:06:49 Resistance and Opposition to the System
01:10:10 Identity vs. Anti-Identity
01:12:31 Underwear Control and Prescribing Behavior
01:16:44 The Game of Whiteness and Opting Out
01:19:49 Femininity and Masculinity
01:22:37 The Decade of Deconstruction
01:26:05 Questioning and Challenging Societal Norms
01:28:47 The Freedom of Breaking Free
Produced By: Haley Phillips